Jacob Trouba Elbow On Rodrigues (Fined 5,000 Dollars)

[Ratsreign]

Are you... new to watching Trouba play?

That play stands on its own, history aside. I see a player caught badly out of position making a desperate attempt to stop a chance on his goal.
I don’t see an intentional attempt to blast him in the head. And no one here is a mind reader.

We could solve the salt crisis with the amount of salty tears that would come from that happening.

Salt crisis? Where? That shit is waist deep in some markets.

 

[Jauffre]

Never forget. Trouba concussed Crosby to giftwrap the Rags the win against Pens in the playoffs. He did it with a WINGED out Elbow too. Going into Game 5, Pens were leading the series 3-1. Trouba takes out Crosby with INTENT, rags come all the way back and take it in 7.

At the time people thought it was an accident. I didn’t buy it then and I definately don’t buy it now.

There should be no surprise and no question what he was trying to do to Necas earlier these playoffs, and now this play. The winged elbow was deliberate attempt to take out a player, as it was when he took out Crosby. This is him making an impact in the playoffs.

There you are! I cannot defend the Rodrigues hit, nor many others from Trouba. He autopilots elbow follow-through on hits and missed hits. Now that players are aware he'll blast them, they side step and Trouba still sticks the elbow out. It's an awful and dangerous habit.

But you've been debunked a million times on the Crosby one.



It was just a weird collision where Crosby lost balance because Trouba basically tripped him while attempting a poke check. It all happened in the blink of an eye. Not even remotely close to some of Trouba's egregious hits. Please, there was zero intent to injure on a bang-bang play like that.

But here you are with #NeverForget to remind us about Crosby. Ya'll didn't blow a 3-1 lead because Crosby missed a game and half.

#BecauseItsTheCrosby

 

[Tob]

Trouba needs to settle this crap and show the hockey world what a full value Trouba elbow to the head looks like so people can stop calling these extension after a ducked hit vicious head hunting elbows

 

[Jack Hanson]

Fla is one of the dirtiest playing teams out there, plenty of dirty hits theyve gotten away with. And even with a 4 minute penalty they couldnt score, instead the Rangers scored shorthanded with Barclay Goodrow brilliance. Its confirmed there was no head contact on the Trouba (note not spelled Truba) hit, hence the double minor penalty that was given. Panthers injured Vesey and Lindgren but not held to any penalties. Looking forward to the rest of this series, we'll see what both teams are made of.

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Suspend Trouba for the rest of the playoffs IMO.

 

[Ugene Magic]

You need a picture of elbow contacting the jaw. All we've seen is A) from the rear, elbow/forearm hitting shoulder/shoulder blade area, and B) from the front, the elbow / forearm behind the head.

It's notable that in view B that Rodrigues's head did not move as would happen with an actual shot to the jaw.

If indeed Trouba's elbow hit the jaw, there should be a clear picture of it.

I provided video of it. You have to watch it on YT.

Plenty of head movement and clear as day.

Here.



I'm gonna move on because I can't make people see clear things. The DOPS is negligent as always.

 

[Jauffre]

Suspend Trouba for the rest of the playoffs IMO.

Yes please! Not for this hit though.

 

[Jack Hanson]

Replays from various angles show that Trouba didn't make direct contact with Rodrigues' head, which is likely what prevented the minor penalty from elevating to a five-minute major.

Rangers captain Jacob Trouba addresses elbow on Evan Rodrigues and resulting fine

 

[GG96]

You want me to comment on a totally unrelated hit to this one in the wrong thread. Find it for me, if your sense of fairness and feelings need to be some acutely managed

I just needed to note the lack of principle. Noted.

Why do people have this expectation that amount of penalties called should be even? Panthers controlled much of the game play, it’s not outrageous that the team without the puck, and under constant pressure at times, will take more penalties.


......... I know, I know, it’s really all rigged by Bettman. That must be it!

I don’t. I actually abhor it. You can find plenty of posts where I criticize it. Did you see what I responded to? The conspiracy that the NHL office somehow is favoring the Rangers.

 

[Dicky113]

The Bennett punch on Marchand was dirtier and didn’t even get a fine so stop whining Florida. Live by the sword die by the… elbow
lol

 

[Ratsreign]

The Bennett punch on Marchand was dirtier and didn’t even get a fine so stop whining Florida. Live by the sword die by the… elbow
lol

Marchand tried to blow Bennett up with a borderline late hit. Marchand arrived late enough and Bennett had time to defend himself. If Marchand timed it better and got there while Bennett still had the puck on his stick, you’d all be creaming yourselves over how he totally rocked that pos Bennett, instead of crying about Marchand running into a fist.

 

[HANK30]

This clown could be the first person touching the Cup in several weeks.

Honestly I wish it were Kreider getting the cup first should the Rangers win…

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

I provided video of it. You have to watch it on YT.

Plenty of head movement and clear as day.

Here.



I'm gonna move on because I can't make people see clear things. The DOPS is negligent as always.

"Video unavailable."

On the view from the front (shown in all the videos from that perspective), Rodrigues pulls his head forward, as if to avoid the blow. We don't see his head knock to the side as if his jaw were actually hit with force. Compare that head movement to a clear elbow to the head.

 

[rboomercat90]

What a joke this league is. The NHL has been suspending players the last few years for minor shoulder contact to the head whether it can be determined to be intentional or accidental saying players can not make initial contact to the head under any circumstances. Here we have a player deliberately throwing an elbow to another players head and they determine it not worthy of a suspension? Where’s the consistency in their decisions? Yet another incident where you can’t help but conclude they just make things up as they go along to fit whatever they need at the time.

 

[Ratsreign]

Bottom line is the principle point of contact was the shoulder area..the numbers to be exact.

Yes, and then went up to side of his head from there. Erod didn’t fake getting hit in the side of the head. Keep in mind that the Panthers’ numbers aren’t on the arm like most teams are, they are on the top of shoulder, like most football jerseys. From those numbers to the neck/side of the head isn’t that far to go.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

After AP straight up slashed Leon last year and then sounded like an abused puppy when explaining himself and getting away with 1 game suspension should have told everyone what was gonna happen to Trouba. Remember only reason AP even got a game is because he specifically didn't even watch the puck and skated toward Leon to do exactly what he did. Even that idiot Perros couldn't sell that as just a fine. This elbow is basically the equivalent of throwing a baked cookie at Rod vs what AP did last playoff..

 

[Ducks DVM]

It's not clear his elbow hit anything. You need a picture of it. There is plenty of evidence that Trouba's elbow/forearm hit the shoulder/ shoulder blade area. But I have not seen anything showing significant contact with the jaw.


Yeah. Like people keep saying, a lot of NYR fans don't mind Trouba out of the lineup.

No such picture is required, just a basic knowledge of physics. Look at the order that things move on the player who is hit. The first thing is the right shoulder crumpling inward and forward, then the head moves AWAY from the hit, then the torso moves forward and away from Trouba. If there was zero head/neck contact, and all the pressure was on the back, then the head would move last, and it would whiplash BACKWARDS. None of that is debatable. There was neck and/or jaw contact.

 

[nbwingsfan]

NHL doing everything in their power not to suspend anyone for anything this post season

 

[swiftwin]

The Bennett punch on Marchand was dirtier and didn’t even get a fine so stop whining Florida. Live by the sword die by the… elbow
lol

It's funny. Everyone warned Florida of what they were getting themselves into against the Rangers, yet here we are.

No sympathy from me. That Bennett sucker punch was 10x worse.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Elbowing is the use of an extended elbow as the point of contact with an opponent while delivering a check, or as a means to create separation with an opponent, and may include an attempted elbow.

(a) A minor penalty shall be assessed for elbowing or an attempt to elbow an opponent.

(b) A major plus a game misconduct penalty shall be assessed to any player who recklessly endangers an opponent as the result of a foul committed by elbowing.

(c) A match penalty for reckless endangerment may also be assessed for elbowing.

—-

So not only is elbowing a torso (or anywhere else) not legal, but the Elbowing penalty itself accounts for “attempts to elbow”.

But “attempts to elbow” aren’t punished with fines or suspensions?

based off the wording there, a 2 minute penalty sounds right based of what actually transpired

 

[Hunter Gathers]

One was intent to injure and the other was intent to make simple contact. Like I said, neither were equal. Trouba struck the jaw, and A-Rod missed an arm.

Intent isn't the same here as far as intent to injure.

At least try and be objective.

Rodrigues threw an IDENTICAL hit a full period prior. Barely a word and you're trying to explain it away in such an incredibly tortured manner that you're twisting yourself in knots.

Yet we're on 24 pages, here, for Trouba.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

At least try and be objective.

Rodrigues threw an IDENTICAL hit a full period prior. Barely a word and you're trying to explain it away in such an incredibly tortured manner that you're twisting yourself in knots.

Yet we're on 24 pages, here, for Trouba.

I’m assuming you have video to compare?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I’m assuming you have video to compare?

Been posted in here already, but here you go again. You can see full elbow extension when Rodrigues whiffs. Same as Trouba.



For the record, my view is that both just missed on hits and neither had any real intent. But if we're going to crucify one guy, I've got a whole pack of nails and a hammer for the other, too.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Been posted in here already, but here you go again. You can see full elbow extension when Rodrigues whiffs. Same as Trouba.



For the record, my view is that both just missed on hits and neither had any real intent. But if we're going to crucify one guy, I've got a whole pack of nails and a hammer for the other, too.

So didn’t make contact? Got it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

So didn’t make contact? Got it.

Oh, I was unaware we were now just throwing intent out the door. All I heard from fans is "intent, intent, intent."

Now, when Rodrigues misses, it's meaningless. "He missed! We can't take intent into account!"

Funny, I sure recall so many on here talking about Trouba's "intent" with the Necas hit miss. Weird that we can use intent for some guys and not for others. Such utter hypocrisy at this point.

The utterly tortured logic on display here is quite impressive. Logic so tortured it should be a war crime.

We've just reached peak silly season, I guess.