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Player Discussion Jack Quinn, RW (8th overall, 2020): Named AHL Rookie of the Year
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That's the real old school right there. Don't dive, don't whine to the refs, don't lose your **** and start swinging at someone. Get a number, give it back.
UnleashRasmus
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From a certain perspective, I’m a little disappointed because I thought he would be in the conversation for the Calder this year, and he isn’t (despite it being a pretty weak Calder year).
On the other hand, you can just see that if he is able to create just a little bit more space for himself to get his shot off, he’ll be a 40 goal scorer. In that sense, I am excited for the future. He will have a huge season next year IMO.
On the other hand, you can just see that if he is able to create just a little bit more space for himself to get his shot off, he’ll be a 40 goal scorer. In that sense, I am excited for the future. He will have a huge season next year IMO.
The interesting thing for me is how he's not getting as much ES ice time (only 11:38, 28th among rookie forwards for ES TOI) as some of the others above him on the rookie scoring list, but his points/60 is one one-hundredth behind Berniers. If (when) he gets more, I'm curious to see what happens to his scoring totals.
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I think something to keep in mind with Quinns production. He gets less ice-time than the other rookies ahead of him in scoring. Beniers plays 3 more minutes at even strength and almost a minute more on the powerplay. The rest all get more Even strength ice time. Additionally most of those rookies are playing with proven players Beniers - Eberle, Johnston - Benn, Johnson - Laine, and McTavish - Terry. The only one playing with young linemates most of the time is Maccelli. Quinn spends most of his time with another rookie (JJP) and Cozens who is still incredibly young.
I think if you look at their production at even strength it's actually much more impressive for Quinn.
Beniers - EV - 41 points, PP- 9 points, 70 games, 3rd on team in EV minutes (forwards), 5th in PP minutes
McTavish - EV - 29 points, PP - 13 points, 72 games, 9th in EV minutes (forwards), 3rd in PP minutes
Maccelli - EV - 29 points, PP - 12 points, 56 games, 6th in EV minutes (forwards)
Johnson - EV - 27 points, PP - 11 points, 69 games, 7th in EV minutes (forwards)
Johnston - EV - 30 points, PP - 6 points, 73 games, 6th in EV minutes (forwards)
Quinn - EV - 28 points, PP - 6 points, 65 games, 12th in EV minutes (forwards)
Quinn gets less EV icetime than all of them. He also gets less PP icetime than all but Johnson and Johnston who he gets a total of 4 more seconds per game than. Despite that he has similar even strength production to most of them. Beniers stands out because he's playing considerably more, and Maccelli stands out because he's produced well in less games.
Personally I think Quinn has been every bit as good as most of the other rookies, most of them are just getting well established players on their lines, Quinn really hasn't. His rates per 60 are equal to or better than most of them at even strength, and on par with most of them on the powerplay.
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
I would propose changing this from a prospect discussion thread to a player discussion thread.
Dubi Doo
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That assist on Tuch's shorty against the Flyers was nasty, and shows that Quinn is much more than just a goal scorer.
His active stick and on ice awareness caused a turnover in the offensive zone, then his skill and creativity allowed him to do a slick spin-o-rama pass to Tuch. All in the matter of a couple of seconds.
As this kid matures, defenders are going to struggle mightily trying to read him. He has a sick shot that can beat a goalie clean + he has the vision and playmaking to thread a creative pass to setup a scoring chance. Good luck stopping him when he's on the rush with some support!
His active stick and on ice awareness caused a turnover in the offensive zone, then his skill and creativity allowed him to do a slick spin-o-rama pass to Tuch. All in the matter of a couple of seconds.
As this kid matures, defenders are going to struggle mightily trying to read him. He has a sick shot that can beat a goalie clean + he has the vision and playmaking to thread a creative pass to setup a scoring chance. Good luck stopping him when he's on the rush with some support!
I just keep noticing how he makes his own lanes to get a clean shot to the net. He's a shooter and the Sabres have had teams where everyone likes to pass and no one shoots. I know we have a few now but Quinn is so dangerous in so many ways. Kid's a total gem. It would have made zero sense to keep the kid in the AHL for another year - he was NHL ready even if the points didn't always come.
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Rookie season in the books, I'm thinking a little bit about Quinn going forward. Ended with a respectable 14G 12A, 37 points.
This kid just seems like he has it. I have to think he's going to be a real problem in a couple years when he's got his man strength and has dialed in his finishing. He has a knack for getting himself into great spots with and without the puck, on O and on D.
The only thing that held him back this season was the finishing, and sometimes forcing things a little too much. In some ways, he was almost like Mitts early years where he would skate himself into trouble, mishandle the puck at inopportune times, or do everything right except the finish. I am very confident he will get it with more experience and when he does, look out.
This kid just seems like he has it. I have to think he's going to be a real problem in a couple years when he's got his man strength and has dialed in his finishing. He has a knack for getting himself into great spots with and without the puck, on O and on D.
The only thing that held him back this season was the finishing, and sometimes forcing things a little too much. In some ways, he was almost like Mitts early years where he would skate himself into trouble, mishandle the puck at inopportune times, or do everything right except the finish. I am very confident he will get it with more experience and when he does, look out.
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Didn't like his game at the beginning of the year, seemed timid and a bit nervous to go in the corners also had issues staying on his skates that being said his last 20 games or so I saw a completely different player. His confidence went through the roof. He got more involved in the play and wasn't afraid to go in the corners.
Looking forward to watching him next year.
Looking forward to watching him next year.
Quinn is the one guy I'd really like to see go to Worlds. Get him that Cozens bump.
I think we’re getting the Cozens bump out of both JQ and JJP next year regardless of their summer plans. Season just ended 14 hours ago and I’m already jonesing for more Sabres puck.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Some of the comments, especially Mitts...
Scarfo... Patrick McGrath?!? Bringing them all out of the woodwork.
Matt Ress
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Not sure if others have caught his games for Canada. He had an assist today but is still getting bullied pretty hard on puck battles. Not that it’s surprising - it happened in the regular season too. He just needs to get more physically mature before he’s ready to take that next step, imo.
Not a surprise, he needs to get into the gym and add muscle mass. He'll have three months to work on it after this tournament is over.
Matt Ress
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I was almost disappointed that he went to the tournament because of this. I know it's a chance of a lifetime but getting paid a bagillion dollars is as well.
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