Jack Hughes' knee-on-knee for Robby Fabbri

glenwo2

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I’m sorry, have you never heard a joke before? Making light of a situation by comparing it to a much more severe situation? Holy shit, your guy f*cked up, own it.

The only "joke" I've heard/seen is the post of someone using an analogy of shooting someone to support a dumb narrative.

But keep on saying "IT'S A JOKE" if you want. :popcorn:
 
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glenwo2

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i think he did it on porpoise. i guarantee other teams will be scared of him now. they will see knee-boy jack on the ice and try to dodge his career ending attempts at a knee check. tbh i'm surprised jack didn't explode when giving that dirty nasty cheap knee on knee hit.

Isn't a "porpoise" some kind of water creature? :sarcasm:

But yeah....Jack was fortunate he didn't tear *his* knee up there.
 

xigon

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Hughes with a not so good rookie year, gets 100 times the attention than the other Hughes brother, that no one cares about. damn, that has to suck.
 

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I wonder if Quinn would be this bad if he played forward. Funny how much physical play he can avoid and still be successful.
 

TheDawnOfANewTage

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Hughes doesn’t hit very often, looks to me like he just went for one when he shouldn’t have. Definitely dumb, but I don’t think it malicious, dude just doesn’t necessarily know how to/when to hit.
 

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Hughes has had a disastrous season and this just adds to it. He went from being compared to guys like Eichel and Matthews to being somehow worse than Hischier as a 1st overall pick.

NJ is unlucky. They've won or sucked in two drafts where the top player is just not good to be a 1st overall in basically any other draft.

Hischier? One year before you get Matthews, one year later you get Dahlin.
Hughes? One year earlier you get...Dahlin and the year after you get Lafreniere.
 

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Hughes has had a disastrous season and this just adds to it. He went from being compared to guys like Eichel and Matthews to being somehow worse than Hischier as a 1st overall pick.

NJ is unlucky. They've won or sucked in two drafts where the top player is just not good to be a 1st overall in basically any other draft.

Hischier? One year before you get Matthews, one year later you get Dahlin.
Hughes? One year earlier you get...Dahlin and the year after you get Lafreniere.
amen. least we haven't lost to a zamboni driver. devils will be fine in 10 years.
 
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Hughes has had a disastrous season and this just adds to it. He went from being compared to guys like Eichel and Matthews to being somehow worse than Hischier as a 1st overall pick.

NJ is unlucky. They've won or sucked in two drafts where the top player is just not good to be a 1st overall in basically any other draft.

Hischier? One year before you get Matthews, one year later you get Dahlin.
Hughes? One year earlier you get...Dahlin and the year after you get Lafreniere.
Trust me - NJ fans are in no way shape or form upset they got Hischier and Hughes

By the way, Where exactly was Mitch Marner at 18? Draisaitl at 18? Kucherov at 18? Panarin at 18? Pastrnak at 18? Marchand? Scheifele? Thornton? Barkov?

I think I could keep going but you get the point (or maybe you dont since were having this discussion in the first place)
 

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Trust me - NJ fans are in no way shape or form upset they got Hischier and Hughes

By the way, Where exactly was Mitch Marner at 18? Draisaitl at 18? Kucherov at 18? Panarin at 18? Pastrnak at 18? Marchand? Scheifele? Thornton? Barkov?

I think I could keep going but you get the point (or maybe you dont since were having this discussion in the first place)

They weren't in the NHL because they weren't ready just like Hughes isn't ready for the NHL but is still in it simply because he was drafted 1st overall and it would look really bad if they did the right thing and sent him down.

Development isn't linear. I highly doubt a 20 year old Hughes will be better than a 20 year old Marner, Barkov etc. I think Hughes will be a average 1st line C and an above average 2nd line C. That's not a bad player but just not what you want to get when you get the chance to pick 1st because it is so rare to pick 1st.

Sure you aren't upset because even if you were, it's not like things can change. It just sucks for them because the year they won the lotteries in, there were no highly elite prospects available to draft.
 
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They weren't in the NHL because they weren't ready just like Hughes isn't ready for the NHL but is still in it simply because he was drafted 1st overall and it would look really bad if they did the right thing and sent him down.

Development isn't linear. I highly doubt a 20 year old Hughes will be better than a 20 year old Marner, Barkov etc.

Sure you aren't upset because even if you were, it's not like things can change. It just sucks for them because the year they won the lotteries in, there were no highly elite prospects available to draft.
So you admit to players not being ready but in the same breath denounce any possibility that Jack can end up ready and reach his potential

Quit beating around the bush my guy - youre totally convinced an 18 year old is a bust before his career has barely started. Youre using zero rationale except when it favors yours argument

Ive got no time to argue with a wall so kick rocks
 

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So you admit to players not being ready but in the same breath denounce any possibility that Jack can end up ready and reach his potential

Quit beating around the bush my guy - youre totally convinced an 18 year old is a bust before his career has barely started. Youre using zero rationale except when it favors yours argument

Ive got no time to argue with a wall so kick rocks
the doofus isn't saying he's a bust, just not as good as most 1st overalls. jack and nico will be good players, they ain't eichels or mcdavid.
 

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the doofus isn't saying he's a bust, just not as good as most 1st overalls. jack and nico will be good players, they ain't eichels or mcdavid.
He just stated with certainty that Jack cannot be as good as other players he named

So he has the crystal ball apparently

And by definition not being worth a 1st overall, or as he said one of the worst ever, is a bust. But im not going to argue semantics when the guys entire premise was to spread negativity and just looks foolish doing so
 

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He just stated with certainty that Jack cannot be as good as other players he named

So he has the crystal ball apparently

And by definition not being worth a 1st overall, or as he said one of the worst ever, is a bust. But im not going to argue semantics when the guys entire premise was to spread negativity and just looks foolish doing so
give him a break, his team is full of overpriced forwards and the fact they just lost to a zamboni driver makes him more antsy.
 

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the doofus isn't saying he's a bust, just not as good as most 1st overalls. jack and nico will be good players, they ain't eichels or mcdavid.

Well who is?

Nobody.

So using them as some kind of measuring stick as to what the #1 pick should be is unrealistic.

They (McDavid in particular) are outliers.

They are in a class of their own.


I, for one, did not expect Jack to be McDavid or even Eichel from Day one.

Hell...I don't think Eichel was Eichel from day one either but that's an entirely different argument.
 
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Well who is?

Nobody.

So using them as some kind of measuring stick as to what the #1 pick should be is unrealistic.

They (McDavid in particular) are outliers.

They are in a class of their own.


I, for one, did not expect Jack to be McDavid or even Eichel from Day one.

Hell...I don't think Eichel was Eichel from day one either but that's an entirely different argument.
please stop quoting me.
 

glenwo2

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please stop quoting me.

No.

What's wrong? Don't you like Debate? Or maybe "Facts" give you the sniffles? o_O

You went and put out that #1 picks should be like McDavid / Eichel and the Devils have missed out. You honestly didn't think no one was going to call you out on that, did you?

(Note : there is an Ignore feature you can always use but don't expect me NOT to respond to a post just 'cause you don't like my valid arguments)
 
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The only "joke" I've heard/seen is the post of someone using an analogy of shooting someone to support a dumb narrative.

But keep on saying "IT'S A JOKE" if you want. :popcorn:
What dumb narrative? The narrative that your first overall pick targeted a knee? Are you saying he didn’t?
It’s very important for me to know what you mean.
 

glenwo2

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What dumb narrative? The narrative that your first overall pick targeted a knee? Are you saying he didn’t?
It’s very important for me to know what you mean.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying 'cause it's true.

He was trying to get him with a big open-ice hit but he sucks at it plus Fabri was already avoiding him so he missed and their legs hit (Fabri's knee and Jack's thigh,I believe).

I think these situations are known as something called "Accidents".


What Fabri did earlier with his high-hits(elbows) on Jack? Not an accident.

What Jack ATTEMPTED to do in trying to check Fabri off his feet with a big hit? Not an accident.

Thigh-on-Knee resulting in Fabri getting hurt? ACCIDENT.


And if you still believe Jack was deliberately targeting Fabri's knee after my explanation, then there is nothing more to say 'cause you want your DUMB(and it is DUMB) narrative to remain true in your mind that the "eeevillll Jack Hughes is going to wreck knees everywhere!! OOOGA BOOOGA!!"

Give me a break...
 
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Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying 'cause it's true.

He was trying to get him with a big open-ice hit but he sucks at it plus Fabri was already avoiding him so he missed and their legs hit (Fabri's knee and Jack's thigh,I believe).

I think these situations are known as something called "Accidents".


What Fabri did earlier with his high-hits(elbows) on Jack? Not an accident.

What Jack ATTEMPTED to do in trying to check Fabri off his feet with a big hit? Not an accident.

Thigh-on-Knee resulting in Fabri getting hurt? ACCIDENT.
How can you confidently say how a 19 year old kid would react when frustrated? Are you him? Are you a sports psychologist that had sessions with him?

Look how much explaining you have to do to make your point valid. I’ll make it much simpler for you, he was pissed off that he got hit in the face fighting for a puck and retaliated. That’s it. He sticks his leg out and adjusts his body position to make contact, it’s honestly really not that hard to see.

You having such a victim mentality right now because all these people are coming after your first overall pick and I get it, but sit this one out. No one is saying he’s a bad player, but that’s a bad hockey play.

You come out swinging when I made a “joke” making light of a dirty hit in my own way, that’s what I do when I see something serious, I downplay it and honestly I didn’t think I’d have to explain this to a grown man.
 
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Hughes is definitely not that type of player. Ya it does look bad but no way was that intentional.
And I am not a Devils fan.
 
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glenwo2

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How can you confidently say how a 19 year old kid would react when frustrated? Are you him? Are you a sports psychologist that had sessions with him?

Look how much explaining you have to do to make your point valid. I’ll make it much simpler for you, he was pissed off that he got hit in the face fighting for a puck and retaliated. That’s it. He sticks his leg out and adjusts his body position to make contact, it’s honestly really not that hard to see.

You having such a victim mentality right now because all these people are coming after your first overall pick and I get it, but sit this one out. No one is saying he’s a bad player, but that’s a bad hockey play.

You come out swinging when I made a “joke” making light of a dirty hit in my own way, that’s what I do when I see something serious, I downplay it and honestly I didn’t think I’d have to explain this to a grown man.

You're hopeless.

I'm done talking to you.

You still hang onto your dumb narrative that Jack purposely went after Fabri's knee when you know damn sure that is and never was the case.

In fact, I'll just put you on Ignore as I don't want to lose any more brain-cells reading your tripe so bye.
 
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glenwo2

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Hughes is definitely not that type of player. Ya it does look bad but no way was that intentional.
And I am not a Devils fan.

OF course it wasn't intentional.

He was going after an open-ice HIT on Fabri who moved out the way when Jack attempted it and unfortunately his knee(and Jack's thigh) made contact and Fabri got the worst of it.

I don't know how many times it must be said but apparently there are those here in these Main forums that just want to HATE on Jack Hughes just because.
It's absolutely mind-boggling. :facepalm:
 

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Is Fabbri alright? A knee injury is the last thing he needs.

None of the clips I've seen show if he was able to get off on his own accord or needed help.
 

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