Jack Hughes' knee-on-knee for Robby Fabbri

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This just in: If you suck at hitting like a hockey player, it is acceptable to swing your leg out and potentially ruin someone's career.
Arguments start on here because people add their own words to someone else's post. Please show me where the person you posted said it was acceptable? I believe he called it an accident and that is exactly what it was. Doesn't mean it was acceptable, but again, the poster never said it was.
 
Arguments start on here because people add their own words to someone else's post. Please show me where the person you posted said it was acceptable? I believe he called it an accident and that is exactly what it was. Doesn't mean it was acceptable, but again, the poster never said it was.
He is defending a knee on knee hit by saying the player is just not good at hitting. To me that equates to saying that there is an acceptable margin of error here because Jack doesn't know how to throw a proper hockey hit. If he stops defending the dirty hit then others will have no room to mischaracterize his reasoning or his opinion of the hit.

I am using my own words to spell out how silly it is to make excuses for such a dirty hit because the person in question p***y-footed around how serious this could have been and how dirty this was. By shrugging it off and saying, "well, he's just not so good at hitting," is not nearly strong enough in my opinion, so of course I am not going to use those words, they are laughable.
 
For starters, as mentioned a couple of times in the thread, I laugh at myself for engaging in this, but this pissing match is about all we have for now;).

Since we are here anyhow, I have to ask: If your re-build is going so smoothly, why did you fire the GM in the middle of the season?

Our excuse?

Most (not all) fans didn't care about the playoff streak, but it was apparently important to Mr. Illitch. It is no coincidence that the true rebuild did not begin until after he passed.

I am constantly amazed that so many people are surprised by how far the Wings have fallen (even some Wings fans themselves), this season was always going to be bottom 2 or 3 in the league. Who cares if it is last by a mile, as long as there is a solid plan in place, and there is.

I am also surprised by how many Wings fans don't seem to realize how long this rebuild will take, just look at what Yzerman did in Tampa. He, of course, had a headstart with Hedman and Stamkos as far as young guns go, but he slowly and methodically acquired picks and prospects, which allowed him to make acquisitions down the road and/or let players like Bishop move on with lower-cost replacements.

SFY is going to so the same in Detroit, he is not just looking get a few young studs to build around and take a shot at a Cup. He is going to acquire enough picks and prospects to build a strong enough pipeline of young talent that can open up a window to contend for 5-10 years. The downside is this project is going to take a really long time, I fully expect to be a lottery team for a minimum of two more years.

By that time, Jack should have fully passed through puberty, and the rivalry will really be ON. :)

I was actually quit surprised the Wings weren't dead last in the standings last season. If they hadn't gone on that "win" streak to the end the season that everyone was so proud of (**gag**. **vomit**), they could have been close.
 
He is defending a knee on knee hit by saying the player is just not good at hitting. To me that equates to saying that there is an acceptable margin of error here because Jack doesn't know how to throw a proper hockey hit. If he stops defending the dirty hit then others will have no room to mischaracterize his reasoning or his opinion of the hit.

I am using my own words to spell out how silly it is to make excuses for such a dirty hit because the person in question p***y-footed around how serious this could have been and how dirty this was. By shrugging it off and saying, "well, he's just not so good at hitting," is not nearly strong enough in my opinion, so of course I am not going to use those words, they are laughable.
You seem really fired up about what by all accounts looks to be an accident. For me to consider something dirty there needs to be some kind of pre-meditated decision made. This really doesn't look like that. It's a missed hit from a guy who usually doesn't hit with an unfortunate result. It doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't receive supplementary discipline, but it's still not dirty.
 
He didn't miss though. He hit him. With his leg. Which he stuck out. Maybe he was too scared to put his 68 lb shoulder into Fabbri's chest?
 
He didn't miss though. He hit him. With his leg. Which he stuck out. Maybe he was too scared to put his 68 lb shoulder into Fabbri's chest?
So Fabbri hits Jack high and Jack goes to do the same and gets him with knee and you are all up in arms. Jack has been getting hit the whole year and he finally tried to do something. But guess what, had Fabbri not hit him, guess what nothing happens, get it, Fabbri started it...
 
The hit didn't go well, I don't really fault Hughes though. He is trying to protect himself, next time hopefully he leaves the knee out but he was answering for what he felt were liberties attempted. What Fabbri just attempted was greasy, Hughes tried to get him back and didn't time it perfect. Hopefully Fabbri isn't out too long and Hughes should be ready to be targeted by a few in the group next time he plays Detroit. This has been going on in hockey forever though, it wasn't some mind-bending event, life will go on.
 
The hit didn't go well, I don't really fault Hughes though. He is trying to protect himself, next time hopefully he leaves the knee out but he was answering for what he felt were liberties attempted. What Fabbri just attempted was greasy, Hughes tried to get him back and didn't time it perfect. Hopefully Fabbri isn't out too long and Hughes should be ready to be targeted by a few in the group next time he plays Detroit. This has been going on in hockey forever though, it wasn't some mind-bending event, life will go on.

Woulda been a heck of a hit had he, y’know, hit him- doubt the giveaway was intentional, but it woulda almost been Datsyukian to give the guy the puck so you could then bury him.

Anyways, agreed that Hughes was heated, made a bad hit, but I don’t think it intentional or anything special. Same with what Fabbri did, actually. Wouldn’t mind seeing both of em sit a game, but by NHL standards this is nothing.

glad Fabbri’s largely ok though (he said just a tweak, right?)- I cant imagine going through that same shit a third time.
 
Sure looks like he stuck his leg out on purpose. If it is simply a case of him being bad at hitting then maybe some supplemental discipline can inspire him to learn how to hit.
 
So Fabbri hits Jack high and Jack goes to do the same and gets him with knee and you are all up in arms. Jack has been getting hit the whole year and he finally tried to do something. But guess what, had Fabbri not hit him, guess what nothing happens, get it, Fabbri started it...

Ah, yes. A borderline minor deserves a potential career ending knee on knee hit.

I really shouldn’t be responding to this but I was with amazed by how you can actually believe this logic.
 
Ah, yes. A borderline minor deserves a potential career ending knee on knee hit.

I really shouldn’t be responding to this but I was with amazed by how you can actually believe this logic.
Well you mistakenly saw it one way, and the NHL saw it another way, no call or any discipline after the game.
 
Sure looks like he stuck his leg out on purpose. If it is simply a case of him being bad at hitting then maybe some supplemental discipline can inspire him to learn how to hit.
Im positive management and coaches saw Jack almost hurt HIS knee and so theyll get him to work on it for that reason alone
 
Guy is mad about getting hit, comes right out and says it after the game, goes and takes a run to make a hit on the guy who did it and sticks hs leg out. The other player misses time hurt, This play shouldve been a suspension or a fine. Even if you think that tiny little bump from Fabbri could've been a 2 minute penalty (thats the most it would be) it doesnt make what Hughes did right or not dirty. At the minimum t was reckless enough to deserve something from the league
 
When did retaliation become a mitigating factor? I’m not just referring to this hit. I don’t think the knee was intentional in this case, but it seems like in a lot of these threads people talk about the person getting hit deserving it because of another questionable hit. Didn’t the NHL used to treat that as an aggravating factor. For example, wasn’t one of the arguments for a lengthy (and deserved) suspension for Chris Simon’s vicious cross check that it was in retaliation for a high hit on him? Of course now he might just get a fine for that anyway.
 
When did retaliation become a mitigating factor? I’m not just referring to this hit. I don’t think the knee was intentional in this case, but it seems like in a lot of these threads people talk about the person getting hit deserving it because of another questionable hit. Didn’t the NHL used to treat that as an aggravating factor. For example, wasn’t one of the arguments for a lengthy (and deserved) suspension for Chris Simon’s vicious cross check that it was in retaliation for a high hit on him? Of course now he might just get a fine for that anyway.

Yep in general going looking for revenge makes it worse not better like some people seem to think. In this case, Hughes got hit by one of the few guys in the league his size and barely got hit at that. It seemed more like a season long frustration of being too small/getting pushed around plus not putting up offense and he made a stupid play by sticking out the leg on him
 

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