Proposal: Jack Eichel to Anaheim 4 Fair Value

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Eichel heavily injury prone. No way i would offer that much. Especially a high pick in this draft

I would but the pick would have to be protected

not giving up a top 3 pick in this draft + bunch of other assets

buffalo fans that think eichel is worth a top 3 pick + more assets are silly

 

[Kalv]

F, Mason McTavish
F, Richard Rakell
D, Jackson Lacombe/Henry Thru
F, Brayden Tracey/Sam Colangelo
G, Lukas Dostal
2022 1st top 3 protected



F, Jack Eichel

Anaheim was the second worst team last year.
If they have to give up their future 2C, 1G, next years furst rounder, future #4-5 defenceman + one if their top scorers to get injury-concerned, 10M Eichel is unrealistic.
There is no one player who can get a bad team into the playoffs. There is 0 sense for Anaheim to do this.

Your best bet is get a trade with some top end team who is ready to risk assets for a player who can get them over the top.

Anaheim pays a super low price or easilly passes. Some fans still strugle to realise this.
And this is nothing against Eichel, he is absolutely a top player, but injury concerns, contract, and the fact he (as any player, even McDavid and Crosby) needs a supporting cast to make some damage, makes it complicated.

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[PettersonHughes]

How is the offer weak ?

let’s dissect the offer :
Mason McTavish - recent 3OA pick. Many believe to have #1C upside.
2022 1st top 3 protected : deep draft and ducks likely pick high, if too high , Sabres get a chance at Michkov/ Bedard & Ducks get Wright / Savoie : Lambert
Rickard Rakell - 3.8 mil cap hit for 1 more year . Can trade for a 1st + prospect @ deadline
jackson Lacombe - looking like a potential top 4 dman and a high 2nd round pick. Goes to the same school as recent 1st round Sabre Ryan Johnson
Brayden Tracey - former 1st round pick who projects as a top 9 goal scorer
Lukas Dostal - looking like a future 1G

can’t see Buffalo receiving more

Agreed. How often does a star player net 3x 1st's (picks or 1st round drafted prospects), a top-6 player and two more promising kids? If Jack proves himself healthy and still wants out of Buffalo, I'm sure he could get two 1st's, a couple roster regulars and maybe a blue-chipper or two. At $10 million and with many games missed, plus him wanting out, Buffalo lacks leverage. Either they hold onto him and let his stock rise despite him being disgruntled, or they sell low and rid of their headache while recouping some value.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Can you be more specific when you say "a few years" because the last guy who said "a few" really meant "two years"?

"A few years ago" the Ducks were still a perennial playoff team. It's only been the past two seasons where Gibson failed to carry them on his shoulders. As I pointed out, he started both seasons standing on his head, then faded as the season went to waste. Not sure you're argument holds any weight because anyone following the Ducks can tell that they have become increasingly bad for 2+ seasons and were never this terrible previously in Gibson's tenure. From 2017-18 on they have faded from a playoff team, to bottom ten, bottom five and now bottom two this past season.

Three years ago when the Ducks began their fall.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Anaheim was the second worst team last year.
If they have to give up their future 2C, 1G, next years furst rounder, future #4-5 defenceman + one if their top scorers to get injury-concerned, 10M Eichel is unrealistic.
There is no one player who can get a bad team into the playoffs. There is 0 sense for Anaheim to do this.

Your best bet is get a trade with some top end team who is ready to risk assets for a player who can get them over the top.

Anaheim pays a super low price or easilly passes. Some fans still strugle to realise this.
And this is nothing against Eichel, he is absolutely a top player, but injury concerns, contract, and the fact he (as any player, even McDavid and Crosby) needs a supporting cast to make some damage, makes it complicated.

Thank you for attending my TED talk

You're right. Anaheim shouldn't trade all that. All it would take is one player, Zegras.

 

[Scintillating10]

There is article Kings have deal in place for Eichel. A first round pick and 3 players.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

There is article Kings have deal in place for Eichel. A first round pick and 3 players.

Would make sense…. Kings can spare assets…. And I assume byfield/Clarke stay kings in said trade

 

[jay from jersey]

Would make sense…. Kings can spare assets…. And I assume byfield/Clarke stay kings in said trade

They also added pinelli this year to their stable of center prospects. Many thought he was worthy of a first rd selection.
Obviously Byfield is a no go, and for good reason. But maybe 1 of Villardi /Turcotte go as the headliner along with Thomas/Madden and a pick?? I have no clue.
But odds are if Buff/LA make a deal, it’s going to Have 1-2 Center prospects going back to Buffalo

 

[Bankerguy]

Not a fair package. If the 1st was a guaranteed top 10 pick. like in the 4 - 7 range maybe... then i'd say fair value. But that package and having the 1st protected? wow. give your head a shake

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

They also added pinelli this year to their stable of center prospects. Many thought he was worthy of a first rd selection.
Obviously Byfield is a no go, and for good reason. But maybe 1 of Villardi /Turcotte go as the headliner along with Thomas/Madden and a pick?? I have no clue.
But odds are if Buff/LA make a deal, it’s going to Have 1-2 Center prospects going back to Buffalo

I’d they are bringing eichel in then vilardi/turcotte don’t seem as necessary , so I agree

I’d say

Vilardi/turcotte
Kupari/kaliyev
1st
Another prospect
+ 2 players to get cap to work

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Not a fair package. If the 1st was a guaranteed top 10 pick. like in the 4 - 7 range maybe... then i'd say fair value. But that package and having the 1st protected? wow. give your head a shake

Seems like a bad post by you

 

[truthbluth]

I’d they are bringing eichel in then vilardi/turcotte don’t seem as necessary , so I agree

I’d say

Vilardi/turcotte
Kupari/kaliyev
1st
Another prospect
+ 2 players to get cap to work

Legitimately, this is what I asked for from the kings 3 months ago. I'd have been happy with it then and I'm happy with it now. It's not a win for the Sabres, but not a loss either. Kings take on all the risk of eichels health, Sabres take on all the prospect risk.
That said, eklund is full of shit.

 

[Bankerguy]

Seems like a bad post by you

LOL put a poll up. with both packages and mine will win as being more fair.... and you can then have some external 3rd party confirmation of your lack of intelligence

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Fair Value from Anaheim? Well lets start with S Steel,H Lindholm,M Jones and L Dostal and first rounders in 2022,2023,2024 and 2025

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Legitimately, this is what I asked for from the kings 3 months ago. I'd have been happy with it then and I'm happy with it now. It's not a win for the Sabres, but not a loss either. Kings take on all the risk of eichels health, Sabres take on all the prospect risk.
That said, eklund is full of shit.

I think it’s reasonable, la leans towards vilardi + kupari, where Buffalo leans turcotte kaliyev

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

LOL put a poll up. with both packages and mine will win as being more fair.... and you can then have some external 3rd party confirmation of your lack of intelligence

The thing I quoted didn’t have an offer in it so idk what your talking about

 

[UseTheBoards]

If the ducks are getting Eichel then the price starts at Drysdale + Mctavish. Lock it up.

 

[Djp]

Anaheim was the second worst team last year.
If they have to give up their future 2C, 1G, next years furst rounder, future #4-5 defenceman + one if their top scorers to get injury-concerned, 10M Eichel is unrealistic.
There is no one player who can get a bad team into the playoffs. There is 0 sense for Anaheim to do this.

Your best bet is get a trade with some top end team who is ready to risk assets for a player who can get them over the top.

Anaheim pays a super low price or easilly passes. Some fans still strugle to realise this.
And this is nothing against Eichel, he is absolutely a top player, but injury concerns, contract, and the fact he (as any player, even McDavid and Crosby) needs a supporting cast to make some damage, makes it complicated.

Thank you for attending my TED talk

Any Eichel deal requires Zegres, Drysadle, or mcravish

 

[HabsAddict]

PLEASE trade Eichel to anyone but the Habs.

The day he gets traded is the day I get sounder sleep....well, not really but I can't emphasize enough how I don't want that super high risk on the Habs.

 

[is the answer jesus]

PLEASE trade Eichel to anyone but the Habs.

The day he gets traded is the day I get sounder sleep....well, not really but I can't emphasize enough how I don't want that super high risk on the Habs.

I wouldn't be losing any sleep if you are a Habs fan. Your team isn't trading Suzuki and is very unlikely to move Caufield and without one of them your team has zero chance to get Eichel. It's also been reported that Adams is looking to move Eichel out of the division.
As for the whole Eklund rumor of Eichel to LA it just sounds like him throwing more feces against the wall to see if something sticks.

 

[HabsAddict]

I wouldn't be losing any sleep if you are a Habs fan. Your team isn't trading Suzuki and is very unlikely to move Caufield and without one of them your team has zero chance to get Eichel. It's also been reported that Adams is looking to move Eichel out of the division.
As for the whole Eklund rumor of Eichel to LA it just sounds like him throwing more feces against the wall to see if something sticks.

That's why I don't want to lose Bbinz because I know and his history is that after his first mistake (Drouin) he does not trade/risk high quality prospects.

It's not that I don't like Eichel, but the risk he represents can set the team back another 5 years.

 

[Spazkat]

Not a fair package. If the 1st was a guaranteed top 10 pick. like in the 4 - 7 range maybe... then i'd say fair value. But that package and having the 1st protected? wow. give your head a shake

For healthy, playing well Eichel that might be realistic. For disgruntled, broken Eichel who's publicly stated he wants out while also insisting on experimental surgery? wow. give your head a shake

 

[The don godfather]

Keep it simple . 1st unprotected 2022 and mctavish is more then enough for eichel.

 

[nbducksfan19]

There is article Kings have deal in place for Eichel. A first round pick and 3 players.

where is the article?

 

[Ducks in a row]

Keep it simple . 1st unprotected 2022 and mctavish is more then enough for eichel.

Ain't happening.