News: Jack Eichel not happy in Buffalo [JACK EICHEL MEGATHREAD] Part II

[Puckclektr]

You do realise he was broken everywhere How he even played through all those injuries I don't even know And still got 17 points

So it’s okay to blame the management and not Eichel who had two goals becuse of injuries.
Skinner
Okposo
Ullmark
As well as Eichel
Had injuries over the last couple years not to mention significant other players. Does the management get a pass?

 

[Flash20]

So it’s okay to blame the management and not Eichel who had two goals becuse of injuries.
Skinner
Okposo
Ullmark
As well as Eichel
Had injuries over the last couple years not to mention significant other players. Does the management get a pass?

They are the ones that put him on the ice they should have put him on IR in beginning of the year

 

[is the answer jesus]

I don't like the city
Vs
Im sick and tired of losing, we're going to keep losing for years, and now I hate management and openly to the public said I dont want to be here anymore.

Yeah, exact same thing

Buffalo fans in denial thinking they're going to get a massive package

A players reasons for "wanting out" are inconsequential. Who are you to say Trouba wanting to be with his fiancee isn't as important as Eichel being tired of losing, or being upset about his neck injury and how it was handled? You asked for an example of a player that wanted out didn't get his way and then didnt in turn pout and quit on his team. There it is. Now stop moving the goal posts. Trouba wanted out. It got to the point where he told the Jets he wanted to be traded. Winnipeg didn't break for years until they knew he was about to walk for nothing.
Honestly though I'm done responding to you. This over the top dramatic nonsense is why it's hard to take you seriously. I'd like to see the article or soundbite where Eichel said he:"Hate's management" and has openly said "he doesn't want to be here anymore". You're like the CNN of these threads. You want to be taken seriously, but by the time you're done telling the story it isn't just the facts anymore (or really at all) it's just as much drama and outrage as you can manufacture.

 

[Chabot84]

In reply to @Mersss from other thread I guess it’s locked now.

“Who else is left in Ottawa then? Batherson? Come on now... It starts with Stutzle at minimum”

These are good points, I kind of took everything juicy off the table but I feel we have some assets. I don’t even think I would want to part with Batherson. I would but I’d rather not.

1st 2021 unprotected
Connor Brown
Josh Norris

And before everyone calls it trash - both those players are breaking out this year.

That’s how I would start the offer for Eichel, it’s a pretty good offer imo but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t get outbid.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Why is L.A. always on that list?

If any we have too many great centers coming up.
What we need are scoring wingers and we are not in winning now mode

Probably because LA is the 2nd biggest market in the states, good weather, a place players often wish to go and with the best prospect pool in the league that's deep down the middle( ie can afford to give up such assets... the exact type Buffalo would like).
This does not mean ok, Eichel is a king. It just means its one of the more obvious possible destinations.

 

[Soundwave]

I think Vegas would offer

Cody Glass
Alex Tuch (grew up close to Buffalo to boot)
1st round pick

And then find a taker for MAF in the summer to clear up the cap room.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I think Vegas would offer

Cody Glass
Alex Tuch (grew up close to Buffalo to boot)
1st round pick

And then find a taker for MAF in the summer to clear up the cap room.

This is probably more than a fair return for Eichel at this point.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Tkachuk, Hanifin, Monahan, 2021 1st for Eichel and Ristolainen from CGY

Honestly, Calgary would regret that big time.

 

[23Monahan]

Lol the fact they weren't willing to allow their franchise center to get neck surgery is pretty crazy

 

[Mersss]

In reply to @Mersss from other thread I guess it’s locked now.

“Who else is left in Ottawa then? Batherson? Come on now... It starts with Stutzle at minimum”

These are good points, I kind of took everything juicy off the table but I feel we have some assets. I don’t even think I would want to part with Batherson. I would but I’d rather not.

1st 2021 unprotected
Connor Brown
Josh Norris

And before everyone calls it trash - both those players are breaking out this year.

That’s how I would start the offer for Eichel, it’s a pretty good offer imo but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t get outbid.

That's not getting you Eichel. 2 middle 6 players and a 1st doesn't net you an all star player, never will

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I wonder how many parts this will be will it top Loungo?

 

[Jagemon]

Lol the fact they weren't willing to allow their franchise center to get neck surgery is pretty crazy

Speculation but a possibly somewhat experimental surgery. I'd be hesitant as well considering he is a 80mil investment.

 

[Jagemon]

This is probably more than a fair return for Eichel at this point.

Yeah no, if that is the offer better just keep him.

 

[explore]

Speculation but a possibly somewhat experimental surgery. I'd be hesitant as well considering he is a 80mil investment.

31 Thoughts: What caused the 'disconnect' between Eichel, Sabres (sportsnet.ca)

According to multiple sources, Eichel had a contentious exit interview with the organization. No one is commenting, but it’s believed he is exploring — on the advice of his medical team — an artificial disc replacement in his neck.

The Sabres and their captain are believed to have agreed to a month-long “pause” to see how Eichel reacted to rest. The end of that period is approaching, and, from what I understand, he still wants the surgery. The Sabres aren’t thrilled with the idea, and have not indicated they will approve.

I find it hard to believe Eichel isn’t consulting the best of the best, while Buffalo’s reticence comes from artificial disc replacement lacking evidence of its effectiveness on elite-level athletes. It’s a relatively new phenomenon. As far as I could find, there are no examples of NHLers who returned to play after having one.

Mixed martial artist Chris Weidman announced he underwent this procedure in Jan. 2019, and proclaimed it a success. He’s fought three times since then, suffering an unrelated injury three weeks ago. Another fighter, Aljamain Sterling, went through it last month. He’s resumed cardio and sounds optimistic, telling ESPN that doctors informed him, “I will heal in three months.”

The Johns Hopkins Medicine website describes the procedure like this:

Cervical disk replacement surgery involves removing a diseased cervical disk and replacing it with an artificial disk. Before this procedure was available, the affected disk was removed and the vertebrae above and below were fused together to prevent motion. The use of an artificial disk to replace your natural cervical disk is a new type of treatment that has recently been approved by the FDA. Disk replacement surgery may have the advantage of allowing more movement and creating less stress on your remaining vertebrae than traditional cervical disk surgery.

“While any surgery carries some risk, disk replacement surgery is a relatively safe procedure,” the website states, before adding it “is a new type of spine surgery so there is little information on possible long-term risks and outcomes.”

TL;DR Eichel and his team want to undergo a new type of disk replacement surgery that no player in the NHL has undergone before, and there are only a handful of professional athletes who've undergone it to date--and all very recently, the Sabres are being more cautious about it since the surgery is new enough that there isn't enough data on long-term risks

My personal take: Eichel's frustration isn't really about the surgery, that'll get done eventually once it becomes clear rehab alone isn't the answer, the medical disagreement is just the excuse that's being used to express his overall frustration with the franchise as a whole

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Yeah no, if that is the offer better just keep him.

His value is plummeting with every word that comes out of his mouth. Now a neck injury that he’s insisting needs surgery? Huge risk for any team. He’s royally screwed the Sabres at this point.

 

[Kalv]

His value is plummeting with every word that comes out of his mouth. Now a neck injury that he’s insisting needs surgery? Huge risk for any team. He’s royally screwed the Sabres at this point.

Sounds like you are just wishful thinking.
A team trading for him would probably have a clear medical overview and they would be aware of the injury stuff. What Eichel said was just informing fans, not the teams, I believe, so I think you are looking at that situation from the wrong angle. That being said, I think the end price will be disappointing for Sabres fans.

 

[Deen]

His value is plummeting with every word that comes out of his mouth. Now a neck injury that he’s insisting needs surgery? Huge risk for any team. He’s royally screwed the Sabres at this point.

Right? It's fine if you want to leave, you don't need to drag the organization on the way out.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Sounds like you are just wishful thinking.
A team trading for him would probably have a clear medical overview and they would be aware of the injury stuff. What Eichel said was just informing fans, not the teams, I believe, so I think you are looking at that situation from the wrong angle. That being said, I think the end price will be disappointing for Sabres fans.

Unfortunately, it’s not wishful thinking because I am 100% not interested in my Rangers trading for him at all, even discounted. I think his actions tell a lot about who he is. He’s the captain of a team that routinely fails and he’s just crying to get out of the situation. He’s had some nice players around him. I don’t think he has the personality to truly lead a team in the NHL. Crappy situation overall for Sabres fans. Hope they get a haul but it just seems like he’s royally screwed them out of a lot of value.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Eichel will be dealt this off-season with LA or NYR as most likely destinations

Reinhart will be dealt this off-season as well. Alot of suitors will be all over this. You could pick 10-15 teams pretty easily

Ristolainen will either be picked by Seattle or will be a 2022 TDL move.

Its going to suck but if Buffalo does this right they really could set themselves up nicely moving forward.

Ullmark too.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

MTL trades a 2nd round pick to BUF to have then trade Eichel already!

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I’m sure that mega super star businesswoman Kim Pegula will pull a win out of this somehow!

 

[Kalv]

Unfortunately, it’s not wishful thinking because I am 100% not interested in my Rangers trading for him at all, even discounted. I think his actions tell a lot about who he is. He’s the captain of a team that routinely fails and he’s just crying to get out of the situation. He’s had some nice players around him. I don’t think he has the personality to truly lead a team in the NHL. Crappy situation overall for Sabres fans. Hope they get a haul but it just seems like he’s royally screwed them out of a lot of value.

I think he is a legit player and leader, but I hear what you say.
The more I hear about him the less willing I would be to give up a lot for him. It's not necessarily whining, I think he really has had a bad management, so I get the frustration, but that injury sounds worse and worse. I just don't know who screwed up there, but sounds like the Sabres.

 

[Jagemon]

His value is plummeting with every word that comes out of his mouth. Now a neck injury that he’s insisting needs surgery? Huge risk for any team. He’s royally screwed the Sabres at this point.

Again, better to keep him and hope he bounces back than trade him for peanuts.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Again, better to keep him and hope he bounces back than trade him for peanuts.

But then he controls his destination.

 

[1909]

Eichel does not want to play in Canada (Maybe TO ?). I expect him to be dealt to Boston.