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Having just played the Blues, Charlie Lindgren comes to mind. He looked solid in the time he was up. His numbers are very good. Wonder what it would cost to get him as an option for back-up given the goaltending glut in St. Louis and our obvious need?
 
ITM said:
Having just played the Blues, Charlie Lindgren comes to mind. He looked solid in the time he was up. His numbers are very good. Wonder what it would cost to get him as an option for back-up given the goaltending glut in St. Louis and our obvious need?
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What? We don't have an obvious need, and even if we did, Mrazek is significantly better than Lindgren. Lindgren is Hutch but much worse.
 
I think this has been a poor week for Campbell, looks like he gets a little confused when the other team goes behind the net - very similar goals scored by Landsekog and Mikkola. Maybe a bit weak lower stick side I think he will work himself out of it and if he continues his good work for the rest of the year, I think 5x5 is reasonable, even generous. If Edmonton has the ability to offer him something stupid like 6.5 or 7 for 5 or 6, well just tack that on to a long list of Edmonton GM mistakes.
 
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What i like most about Campbell is he never seems to go down too early like alot of goalies have a tendency to do. I still think hes too early into being a starter for us to know exactly what we have... is he a 1B or a 1A...he certainly has played like a 1A but again still early.
 
This guy makes big saves. I'd rather give him a fat contract and trade some of the skaters than go another 15 years looking for a goalie of the same level. Trying to squeak by on shoestring goaltending makes enough sense when that's what you've gotta do, but now we've got a bonafide Vezina candidate between the pipes and IMO that makes him the second most important piece on the team (behind Matthews). I hope we can sign him on a cost effective deal, because cap space is important, but there's maybe four players on the roster that I wouldn't move if we needed to make cap space. If he signs for 7m, that's just 2m more than Andersen cost. We're going to dump Mrazek anyways, so sign Soup and then figure out the rest from there.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
I at least knew who he was
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I think you misunderstand my point. The point is, there will be options, we aren't pigeonholed into one goalie having a career year heading into UFA status. Whether or not I knew who Campbell was has no bearing on whether I'm right or not. Me saying I didn't know who he was was to demonstrate the number of options out there that I (and probably you) haven't considered.
 
I think he’s came back to Earth a bit.

Still was able to close out the game and he seems to elevate his play in moments where the leafs need a big save which has been rare for the Leafs since Cujo/Belfour.

He needs Mrazek to start playing to give him some much needed rest.
 
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The Podium said:
I think he’s came back to Earth a bit.

Still was able to close out the game and he seems to elevate his play in moments where the leafs need a big save which has been rare for the Leafs since Cujo/Belfour.

He needs Mrazek to start playing to give him some much needed rest.
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yep. Him coming. Back down to earth isn’t a bad thing for us in a contract year. Still getting points but a .918-.921 Sv and a 2.30-2.60 GAA is better for us.

he makes big saves even when the counting Stats aren’t great. Like a reverse Freddie
 
I think this was expect. Goals were going to go in. His sv% was crazy high. Might be a concern that the ones that went in were a bit leaky, but it's fine for now. Once we actually start playing a normal run of games, I wouldn't mind Campbell/Mrazek going on a 3/2 split every 5 games. Give Campbell a rest and Mrazek a chance to gain some momentum.
 
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I think this was expect. Goals were going to go in. His sv% was crazy high. Might be a concern that the ones that went in were a bit leaky, but it's fine for now. Once we actually start playing a normal run of games, I wouldn't mind Campbell/Mrazek going on a 3/2 split every 5 games. Give Campbell a rest and Mrazek a chance to gain some momentum.
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I'd like to see this starting right now. It's funny, last season it was like there were huge concerns about Jack's durability, even with him playing two games in a row there was like some sort of drama involved but now, it's like he's superman and can play almost every game. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some fatigue setting in, would be a shame to have Jack play his worst hockey of the season in the playoffs. It would more than a shame actually, if would be a freaking travesty!
 
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Dubas has really screwed up.

He was gifted Jack Campbell.

The bottom line is Jack played amazing his first year. The other bottom line is that there was zero hope of the Leafs getting a better goalie. Dubas should have doubled down on Campbell as it was our only hope of a serious cup run.

It sure was possible that Jack Campbell sucked this year and beyond. And then any cup run hopes would be dashed. But there is zero chance of the Leaf's doing any better than "playing well" Jack Campbell.

Why was Marner overpaid first, hope for results later, and Jack gets results but he's not signed in a timely fashion ?

Dubas poorly managing the cap again.

This team sucks with Mrazek or any other affordable goalie available to the cap crunch leafs.
 
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HamiltonNHL said:
Dubas has really screwed up.

He was gifted Jack Campbell.

The bottom line is Jack played amazing his first year. The other bottom line is that there was zero hope of the Leafs getting a better goalie. Dubas should have doubled down on Campbell as it was our only hope of a serious cup run.

It sure was possible that Jack Campbell sucked this year and beyond. And then any cup run hopes would be dashed. But there is zero chance of the Leaf's doing any better than "playing well" Jack Campbell.

Why was Marner overpaid first, hope for results later, and Jack gets results but he's not signed in a timely fashion ?

Dubas poorly managing the cap again.

This team sucks with Mrazek or any other affordable goalie available to the cap crunch leafs.
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I couldn't agree more. I said it in the summer - extending Jack would be my #1 priority and I can't understand for the life of me why it doesn't seem like it was a priority for Dubas. It's especially mind boggling considering he's the one who traded for him and he's obviously better informed than any of us as to anything going on with him on a day to day basis so if there's anyone who could have seen this coming (Jack being awesome), it should have been him. So how the f*** is it possible that Dubas misjudged this situation so badly?

I like Dubas and overall I think he's done good job but not extending Campbell in the summer (even if we had to pay more than we would have liked to pay) was just terrible. He's made two big mistakes in his time here and this is one of them (Marner's contract is obviously the other one).

SMH.
 
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Not true at all. Just obviously pretty ridiculous to have your GM acquire a great goalie having a Vezina-quality season, and somehow twist that into him being "gifted" something and "screwing up".
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I'm talking about what he did AFTER the acquisition.

Any acquisition is a gamble. You judge people more about what they do with their known cards than what happens on the flop.

Every team is envious of our Jack Campbell situation. The Mrazek fiasco in combination with not taking Campbell serious is a grave mistake. Classic Dubas paying players the maximum amount possible.

Goalies don't contribute to Corsi so dubas is lost
 
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I'm talking about what he did AFTER the acquisition.

Any acquisition is a gamble. You judge people more about what they do with their known cards than what happens on the flop.

Every team is envious of our Jack Campbell situation. The Mrazek fiasco in combination with not taking Campbell serious is a grave mistake. Classic Dubas paying players the maximum amount possible.

Goalies don't contribute to Corsi so dubas is lost
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Yep having the best goaltending value in the league is actually bad.

Dumbas strikes again!
 
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I'm talking about what he did AFTER the acquisition.
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Ah, so we're ignoring the acquisition of a goalie having a Vezina-quality season entirely to frame Dubas as a failure. Gotcha.
The Mrazek fiasco in combination with not taking Campbell serious is a grave mistake.
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There is no "Mrazek fiasco". And you have zero idea what went down in negotiations this summer.
Classic Dubas paying players the maximum amount possible.
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Except that's not classic Dubas at all.
 
HamiltonNHL said:
Dubas has really screwed up.

He was gifted Jack Campbell.

The bottom line is Jack played amazing his first year. The other bottom line is that there was zero hope of the Leafs getting a better goalie. Dubas should have doubled down on Campbell as it was our only hope of a serious cup run.

It sure was possible that Jack Campbell sucked this year and beyond. And then any cup run hopes would be dashed. But there is zero chance of the Leaf's doing any better than "playing well" Jack Campbell.

Why was Marner overpaid first, hope for results later, and Jack gets results but he's not signed in a timely fashion ?

Dubas poorly managing the cap again.

This team sucks with Mrazek or any other affordable goalie available to the cap crunch leafs.
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how was he gifted Campbell?
 
LeafChief said:
"I'm hearing from sources around the league that if the Leafs want to get Jack Campbell signed to an extension, the number will need to start with a 12."

- Darren Dreger, probably.
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Actually Marchand says it's 13
 
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