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danny90 said:
He’s had incredible stretches that allowed the team to stay in the game particularly against Tampa, I’ve never felt more comfortable in close games and I’m sure the player’s can feel more loose knowing the next mistake is not going to end up in the back of the net.
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Agreed makes a big difference in how the team plays
 
TMLife17 said:
I think the hold up is the point we’re at. He’s got a small sample of work and for most to go over the moon for him he’s going to just have to keep it up. I see what you’re seeing though he’s doing what we’ve needed to be done for a long time and the team is playing the same game. But again, we’re 15 minutes into the game
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Agreed we are early in the season but he's been at this level for 2 years now. They showed a stat last week during one of the games and JC has the highest SV% over the last two calendar years. Is this to say he's going to play at this level for infinity? No, every player has bumps through the season. Should this be a surprise? Probably not, he was drafted 1st round , 11th over all 11 years ago. Your draft position assures you of no success (Ritchie) but it is an indication of your perceived upside when you were drafted. The perception on his upside has been there that he has star potential. Goalies tend to take longer to develop, he's now in his 10th pro season. He has not proven that he can get over his injury history and he has not started more than 31 games at the NHL level. He still has a way to go to prove he is a legit 60 to 65 game 1A goalie. IMO he has proven he is a legit 1A goalie over a short stretch.
 
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JEI said:
I'll admit, I fully expected him to falter this year. I don't know why, goalies are voodoo, and he just never instilled confidence for me. I know, it's crazy to think after the season he had, but I just keep getting the vibe he is going to come crashing down. Thankfully, he has totally made me eat crow. I hope he continues his strong play. Seems to be a great fit for the team since coming over, and I think when you find that type of player you try hard to keep them.
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Maybe it's years of being a Leaf fan, we are all a little jaded inside.
 
Antropovsky said:
i reqlly like Campbells never give up mentality and work ethic, hes a fighter. one of my biggest issues with Andersen was he didnt seem to have alot of desperation saves in him. which prob works fine when the twam in front od you eliminates most of the second chances. i also like that he has a hybrid style... its nice to see him not going down on every shot and standing up and taking alot of higj shots to the chest. Woll i noticed seems to be a blocking goalie and goes down beforw alot of shots. hopefully because he is new to the NHL... and needs to adapt.

good for Soupy, most exciting and likeable goalie since Cujo.
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C'mon who can't love a guy who offers a cop one galljillion dollars to let him go after getting arrested for being drunk in public. Belfour was a loveable guy in his own unique way ;)
 
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Bluelines said:
Ohhhhh so impressed ...we had this consultant come over from India and we were talking in the car on the drive to his hotel from the airport. He mentioned he had TWO MBA's. I was like wow that is impressive, where did you go, he said I took a week long course at XYZ school in New Delhi for one of my MBA's and it was a 2 day course in Banglore for my other MBA... so bravo ... you got lots of useless letter next to your name... I have a team computer of programmers working for me making $100k+ with no letters, no diplomas, no industry certs, next to their name and they are some of the best in the industry IMO... letters mean jack squat in the real world.

18 games is 22% of the season. Lets apply that 22% to a business, 12 months in a year, times 22% = 2.64 months, lets round that up to 3 months, so clearly when you do your business KPI's you simply ignore the first 3 months of the year cause ya know 22% of the year is insignificant. Can you pick which 3 months you ignore when you do your P/L? There is a line item for EBIDA and you tell your VP, who would be me BTW I have letters too, that hey that blank space in Q1 ... we are just goign to ignore that quarter cause 22% of the year is stasticially insignificant .... FFS.

You are no more a CFA, CFP, MBA, LLB than Marner is an elite clutch goal scorer.
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18 games does not signify a sample size. You can apply any rationalization you like.. it just further supports the point you have 0 idea. Educate yourself

What is Effective Sample Size?
 
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weird stat:
He hasn’t stopped a puck in OT yet

pretty sure he’s had some stars though. So the data may be wrong (the score app)
 
He deserves to be on the U.S Olympic team. Not just for this year, but last year as well.

There has been little doubt in my mind that the Leafs have played noticeably better when he is between the pipes. It was ideal that they reinforced that he is The Man when they moved on from Andersen.
 
CupcakeSprinkles said:
18 games does not signify a sample size. You can apply any rationalization you like.. it just further supports the point you have 0 idea. Educate yourself

What is Effective Sample Size?
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look at it as 25% of his season. I believe that is a large enough sample size to make an informed opinion. What percentage of the season do you consider large enough to obtain a sample size?
 
HamiltonNHL said:
Why he wasn’t signed this summer escapes me.
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Because he was the man....with a career high of 31 games played, and in 7 previous NHL seasons he has played 86 games total.

There was no guarantees about him....at all.
 
CupcakeSprinkles said:
18 games does not signify a sample size. You can apply any rationalization you like.. it just further supports the point you have 0 idea. Educate yourself

What is Effective Sample Size?
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Cute, letters can google. You correlate odds of doing anything against historical truths. What makes something a significant sample size goes back to what question you are trying to answer and how the answer correlates to history. If you have 2 in 4 odds to win a million dollars, 2 represents a big number in that set of numbers. 18 is a big number when compared to 82. 18 is a small number when compared to 1000.

US Thanks giving is considered a significant milestone in the NHL regular season, 5 days from now. It's generally accepted GM's know what kind of team/players they have by that date. Which is 3 games away for our beloved Leafs. Are you going to learn anything in the next 3 games about this team/players that you don't already know? Is the picture that we will see after 21 games that much different than 18 games? A side from a significant injury in the next 3 games, what we know today is what we will know in 5 days, if you are an honest person you know what this team is at 18 games.
 
Discussions for Vezina usually begin around the quarter mark of the season, he looks like he's going to be in that initial conversation, maybe even the prime candidate if he keeps this up. By a landslide, he's been the Leafs MVP so far this season. He's been near perfect in terms of what the Leafs need from goalie, especially in timeliness, guys been getting W's for a reason.

I think Soup has a good shot at making team USA at the Olympics, competition is tough though and he'd likely be third string; that'd still be incredible for him though.
 
Campbell reminds me a lot of Cujo and Tim Thomas, goalies who don't really have the best technical game and make it look ugly a lot of the time, and as a goalie coach you can spot holes all over their game - but they 'get lucky' enough that eventually have to accept it's not luck and dude is just built different.

It's like shooting a basketball or pitching a baseball. For 99% of people you need to do it a certain way to have success.

Jack is the 1%.

Which may explain why he took so long to get a legit shot, injuries aside. He doesn't look like you should be able to trust him. I can spot "shoulda gone in" goals all over the ice almost every game. But they just don't go in.

And he's done it long enough and consistently enough that I believe in him.
 
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makbeer said:
Campbell reminds me a lot of Cujo and Tim Thomas, goalies who don't really have the best technical game and make it look ugly a lot of the time, and as a goalie coach you can spot holes all over their game - but they 'get lucky' enough that eventually have to accept it's not luck and dude is just built different.

It's like shooting a basketball or pitching a baseball. For 99% of people you need to do it a certain way to have success.

Jack is the 1%.

Which may explain why he took so long to get a legit shot, injuries aside. He doesn't look like you should be able to trust him. I can spot "shoulda gone in" goals all over the ice almost every game. But they just don't go in.

And he's done it long enough and consistently enough that I believe in him.
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His play style reminds me most of Curtis Joseph.
 
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Bluelines said:
I said:


To which you replied:


Lets break down my statement for truth:

Campbell makes this team look like a top 5 team, any other goalie that we have tried this year makes us look like a bottom 5 team.
  • Campbell .944 SV% , 1.63 GAA
  • Woll .852 sv%, 4.00 GAA
  • Mrazek .877 sv%, 4.20 GAA
  • Hutchinson .857 sv%, 4.57 GAA
In which world do you see a team with a sv% around .860, which is what it is with any goalie besides Campbell not a bottom 5 team? In which world do you see a team with a sv % of .944 not a top 5 team? Your reply to me that there is zero truth is at best lazy at worst intentionally dishonest, right?
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J.Woll: 2gms, 2-0-0, .915sv%

Howdja like dem samples?
 
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Bluelines said:
Cute, letters can google. You correlate odds of doing anything against historical truths. What makes something a significant sample size goes back to what question you are trying to answer and how the answer correlates to history. If you have 2 in 4 odds to win a million dollars, 2 represents a big number in that set of numbers. 18 is a big number when compared to 82. 18 is a small number when compared to 1000.

US Thanks giving is considered a significant milestone in the NHL regular season, 5 days from now. It's generally accepted GM's know what kind of team/players they have by that date. Which is 3 games away for our beloved Leafs. Are you going to learn anything in the next 3 games about this team/players that you don't already know? Is the picture that we will see after 21 games that much different than 18 games? A side from a significant injury in the next 3 games, what we know today is what we will know in 5 days, if you are an honest person you know what this team is at 18 games.
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Pretty accurate. The US Thanksgiving has been a pretty good benchmark of who will make the playoffs.
 
Bluelines said:
Cute, letters can google. You correlate odds of doing anything against historical truths. What makes something a significant sample size goes back to what question you are trying to answer and how the answer correlates to history. If you have 2 in 4 odds to win a million dollars, 2 represents a big number in that set of numbers. 18 is a big number when compared to 82. 18 is a small number when compared to 1000.

US Thanks giving is considered a significant milestone in the NHL regular season, 5 days from now. It's generally accepted GM's know what kind of team/players they have by that date. Which is 3 games away for our beloved Leafs. Are you going to learn anything in the next 3 games about this team/players that you don't already know? Is the picture that we will see after 21 games that much different than 18 games? A side from a significant injury in the next 3 games, what we know today is what we will know in 5 days, if you are an honest person you know what this team is at 18 games.
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Woll has a .915 SVS and 2.00 GA now through 2 games you gonna update your goalie chart now?
 
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