Tribute Jack Campbell Discussion

[RunItBackAgain]

2 games were at the start when we sucked and were playing trash hockey. We played an admirable game with Woll in net and managed to find our scoring touch. IMO we’ve only seen one instance of a backup goalie playing for OUR leafs and he did alright with our team doing better

 

[Nylanderthal]

You’re suggesting it’s Campbell who makes the rest of the team look good, that’s simply untrue.
Is he better than the alternatives in place right now? Obviously, but that’s the case with every single other team WRT to their goaltending.

 

[hamzarocks]

You’re suggesting it’s Campbell who makes the rest of the team look good, that’s simply untrue.
Is he better than the alternatives in place right now? Obviously, but that’s the case with every single other team WRT to their goaltending.

Campbell has been a top 5 goalie and the defense has been around top 7 level in the league.

Both are elite right now.

If the offense figures things out and plays to their potential we could win the president trophy.

Obviously have to hope that can continue come playoffs but the leafs are playing inspiring hockey right now. I was waiting till game 30 to reach a personal conclusion on them but won't lie it was tough to expect them to bounce back the way they have fter the Canes loss

20 out of 22 points is insane. We still have a shot at the president trophy despite a terrible first 7 games

 

[kb]

Campbell has been a top 5 goalie and the defense has been around top 7 level in the league.

Both are elite right now.

If the offense figures things out and plays to their potential we could win the president trophy.

Obviously have to hope that can continue come playoffs but the leafs are playing inspiring hockey right now. I was waiting till game 30 to reach a personal conclusion on them but won't lie it was tough to expect them to bounce back the way they have fter the Canes loss

20 out of 22 points is insane. We still have a shot at the president trophy despite a terrible first 7 games

Well said brotha........

 

[ShaneFalco]

It may be early, but finally a solid goalie you can rely on and can steal the odd game

 

[Clark4Ever]

I'm sorry, but it has to be said. Our ridiculously incredible winning percentage overall with Campbell in net just reinforces what many of us were saying all along about Andersen the last couple of seasons. He cost us too many games to count and I'm relieved that we've moved on from him, despite how he's doing in Carolina.

 

[Doublerum1975]

It’s not like Campbell is stealing us games he’s doing his job making saves he should save

 

[kb]

I'm sorry but it has to be said. Our ridiculously incredible winning percentage overall with Campbell in net just reinforces what many of us were saying all along about Andersen the last couple of seasons. He cost us too many games to count and I'm relieved that we've moved on from him, despite how he's doing in Carolina.

Campbell is a solid G. Andersen was a good goalie who had weaknesses technically and in the head....

Campbell was only in his head....and looks like he's figured it out.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Campbell is a solid G. Andersen was a good goalie who had weaknesses technically and in the head....

Campbell was only in his head....and looks like he's figured it out.

Andersen had a higher potential to win you a 45 shot against game you had no business winning but we don't really need that at the cost of going 3.5 GAA for months at a time.

 

[Bluelines]

Can we get a better sample size filter of over 5 games and how it effects the average? LOL it would eliminate Mrazek, Hutch and Woll leaving Campbell. "Sample Size" is a key concept taught in school.

They also teach that you need 3 data points to establish a trend. The team has played 18 games, back ups have started 4 games or 22.2% of all games played. 22.2% of any data set is considered statistically significant.

 

[Bluelines]

2 games were at the start when we sucked and were playing trash hockey. We played an admirable game with Woll in net and managed to find our scoring touch. IMO we’ve only seen one instance of a backup goalie playing for OUR leafs and he did alright with our team doing better

In that same time frame where the team was playing like shhhhiiiittttt, he posted a .969, .952, .913, .914. So again JC is making this team look better than it really is. Stats don't lie.

	Goalie Stats
Rk	Date	G	Opp	GA	SA	SV	SV%	SO	PIM	TOI
1	2021-10-13	1	MTL	1	32	31	0.969	0	0	60:00:00
3	2021-10-16	3	OTT	1	21	20	0.952	0	0	60:00:00
4	2021-10-18	4	NYR	2	23	21	0.913	0	0	63:48:00
5	2021-10-23	5	PIT	5	21	16	0.762	0	0	40:00:00
6	2021-10-25	6	CAR	3	35	32	0.914	0	0	57:46:00

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[Bluelines]

It’s not like Campbell is stealing us games he’s doing his job making saves he should save

Veznia like stats and he's not stealing games... riiiiight... in 9 of his 15 games he has let in ONE or less goals... but he's not stealing any games... OK sparky...

 

[Doublerum1975]

Veznia like stats and he's not stealing games... riiiiight... in 9 of his 15 games he has let in ONE or less goals... but he's not stealing any games... OK sparky...

You think he’s stealing all those games ok you better watch the games

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Veznia like stats and he's not stealing games... riiiiight... in 9 of his 15 games he has let in ONE or less goals... but he's not stealing any games... OK sparky...

I think the hold up is the point we’re at. He’s got a small sample of work and for most to go over the moon for him he’s going to just have to keep it up. I see what you’re seeing though he’s doing what we’ve needed to be done for a long time and the team is playing the same game. But again, we’re 15 minutes into the game

 

[Doublerum1975]

This is not a knock on Campbell love him big fan but to say he’s stealing games sorry he’s not maybe give credit to the team for playing good in front of him

 

[hockeywiz542]

Happy, Jack? The Leafs’ Jack Campbell is No. 1 in Toronto, and No. 1 in the NHL | The Star

“He’s just so solid, he’s so dialed in right now and we just trust him completely,” defenceman Justin Holl said. “He’s been there for us every time we needed him.”

Good thing, too, because of Petr Mrázek’s continued groin issues.

Campbell is on pace to play in 68 games this season, an unsustainable number in the modern goaltending world of load management. It’s not unheard of. Frederik Andersen played 66 games for the Leafs in 2017-18. Felix Potvin holds the team record: 74 games, in 1996-97.

But the idea was for Campbell and Mrázek to share the net. The Leafs aren’t ready to give prospect Joseph Woll, or any other goalie, the starts Mrázek would have gotten, so they’re riding Campbell’s hot hand.

“We’re conscious of it,” Keefe said of Campbell’s workload. “But he’s been really good. Not just his play, I think that the way we’ve managed him in practice has helped that. Sometimes the team, in games, can help his workload.”

Keefe brought up Toronto’s 3-0 win over Nashville. It was Campbell’s third shutout, but it was also a light night in terms of shots faced.

“I think it was three shots in the first 17 minutes of the third,” Keefe said. Those kind of things really go a long way as well to help in that workload.

“So I think he’s managed it very well. I think he’s become very comfortable with his body. The medical team has got a really good handle on him. In terms of energy levels, I think he’s in a really good place.”

Campbell is in such a good place that he could be playing his way on to the U.S. Olympic team. Going into the season, the favourites for the three goalie jobs appeared to be Connor Hellebuyck, John Gibson and Thatcher Demko. But, after Thursday’s win over the Rangers, Campbell is leading the NHL in wins (10), goals-against average (1.68) and save percentage (.944).

“There’s no time really to think about it anything other than right now, and that’s what I’m doing,” Campbell said of the Team USA talk. “Anytime you get to represent your country, it’s one of the greatest honours you can have."

“As a player, you’re competitive, you want to do the best you can for your team … and I’m focused on just being the best I can for the Toronto Maple Leafs.”

 

[JEI]

I'll admit, I fully expected him to falter this year. I don't know why, goalies are voodoo, and he just never instilled confidence for me. I know, it's crazy to think after the season he had, but I just keep getting the vibe he is going to come crashing down. Thankfully, he has totally made me eat crow. I hope he continues his strong play. Seems to be a great fit for the team since coming over, and I think when you find that type of player you try hard to keep them.

 

[zeke]

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

They also teach that you need 3 data points to establish a trend. The team has played 18 games, back ups have started 4 games or 22.2% of all games played. 22.2% of any data set is considered statistically significant.

No it's really not LOL take a stats course.

CFA, CFP, MBA, LLB.. Safe to say I know how math works.. sample size is out the window even at 18 games.

 

[Antropovsky]

i reqlly like Campbells never give up mentality and work ethic, hes a fighter. one of my biggest issues with Andersen was he didnt seem to have alot of desperation saves in him. which prob works fine when the twam in front od you eliminates most of the second chances. i also like that he has a hybrid style... its nice to see him not going down on every shot and standing up and taking alot of higj shots to the chest. Woll i noticed seems to be a blocking goalie and goes down beforw alot of shots. hopefully because he is new to the NHL... and needs to adapt.

good for Soupy, most exciting and likeable goalie since Cujo.

 

[danny90]

It’s not like Campbell is stealing us games he’s doing his job making saves he should save

He’s had incredible stretches that allowed the team to stay in the game particularly against Tampa, I’ve never felt more comfortable in close games and I’m sure the player’s can feel more loose knowing the next mistake is not going to end up in the back of the net.

 

[Bluelines]

You think he’s stealing all those games ok you better watch the games

No, no I agree, it's quite common for a goalie to allow 1 or less goals in 60% of his games, ...yep happens with every team,,, yep quite common .... (insert eye roll)

 

[Confucius]

It appears Soup doesn't feel pressure. You can see it in his face during games, winking, tapping guys with his stick always smiling, he is the perfect fit for playing in the spotlight. He is a give me the ball type player.

 

[Bluelines]

No it's really not LOL take a stats course.

CFA, CFP, MBA, LLB.. Safe to say I know how math works.. sample size is out the window even at 18 games.

Ohhhhh so impressed ...we had this consultant come over from India and we were talking in the car on the drive to his hotel from the airport. He mentioned he had TWO MBA's. I was like wow that is impressive, where did you go, he said I took a week long course at XYZ school in New Delhi for one of my MBA's and it was a 2 day course in Banglore for my other MBA... so bravo ... you got lots of useless letter next to your name... I have a team computer of programmers working for me making $100k+ with no letters, no diplomas, no industry certs, next to their name and they are some of the best in the industry IMO... letters mean jack squat in the real world.

18 games is 22% of the season. Lets apply that 22% to a business, 12 months in a year, times 22% = 2.64 months, lets round that up to 3 months, so clearly when you do your business KPI's you simply ignore the first 3 months of the year cause ya know 22% of the year is insignificant. Can you pick which 3 months you ignore when you do your P/L? There is a line item for EBIDA and you tell your VP, who would be me BTW I have letters too, that hey that blank space in Q1 ... we are just goign to ignore that quarter cause 22% of the year is stasticially insignificant .... FFS.

You are no more a CFA, CFP, MBA, LLB than Marner is an elite clutch goal scorer.

 

[Bluelines]

It appears Soup doesn't feel pressure. You can see it in his face during games, winking, tapping guys with his stick always smiling, he is the perfect fit for playing in the spotlight. He is a give me the ball type player.

I think those winks are window dressing, his reaction after a loss tells you a lot about his mindset. When he lost that Pitts game he blames himself, said he had to be better, he said the loss was on him, when in reality the team sucked. He internalizes every loss as if it was his fault. that can't be a comfortable and happy mindset. When your thought process is I have to win every game or it's my fault, talk about carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders.