Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[Garo]

No chance there would be.

This place had a freakout that broke the server when we thought Hossa's gloves were in Montréal. If a young top 6 player was as rumoured to be interested in coming here there would easily be a 40 pages thread.

 

[Scriptor]

This is rich considering his ethnicity and language are the only damn reason there is a thread here about him.

This is rich considering ethnicity and language is the only reason you and a few others are so against acquiring Dubois.

It's the reasons why I want Dubois. Beyond that, if you want to portray it otherwise, because of your own personal bias, you're completely blinded by it and disconnected from reality.

No chance there would be.

Of course not (sarcasm) -- You're completely clueless.

 

[Scriptor]

I don’t think it’s happened here either. The thread is here because of who he is.

Does anyone have a direct quote with PLD claiming that he wants to be a Hab and only a hab? Please post the link.

Why stretch it, now, to only wants to be a Hab?

That he considers Montreal a destination he could see himself going to is more than any such C has said at 24 years of age.

I don't give a damn that his name is Dubois, but you can crawl back into your hole and burn all your French Quebecer voodoo dolls if that's your thing.

You are genuinely unpleasant. If that was the aim, well done.

If the Habs sign Dubois at 8,000, 001 $ , they should be fired
If they sign him at 7, 999,999 $ We will see what happens (but it could be genius in the long terms)

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That's ridiculous! Nothing above $7,999,998.00

 

[sampollock]

how many pages till the final for sure is in on PLD 1000?

 

[nhlfan9191]

We fans have been in offseason mode since February.

February? We’ve been in offseason mode since November 2021.

 

[HuGort]

Surprised majority want to wait a year and sign Dubois as UFA

 

[River Meadow]

Surprised majority want to wait a year and sign Dubois as UFA

Why would you want to pay assets to get someone who wants to come here for free in a year?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

No chance there would be.

If anyone his age and talent level expressed an interest in coming here there would be interest and a 50 page thread. If it was Meier it would be exactly the same.

 

[Jaynki]

So we’re all in agreement that the Florida pick and Dvorak should do it?

That should do it.

Will the Jets have a bigger offer than this, considering everything ?

 

[CHwest]

It will be hilarious to read 80+ pages when he signs somewhere else lol.

And the out pour of hate.

 

[yianik]

I think the Jets are interested with the Florida first and Owen Beck. The pick and Beck gives them 2 shots at a C.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think the Jets are interested with the Florida first and Owen Beck. The pick and Beck gives them 2 shots at a C.

0 chance we are giving a prospect of Beck's quality in addition to the Florida's 1st. 0 precedent for it.

 

[morhilane]

That should do it.

Will the Jets have a bigger offer than this, considering everything ?

Why would anyone offer more without any guarantees that Dubois will sign long terms with them?

 

[26Mats]

0 chance we are giving a prospect of Beck's quality in addition to the Florida's 1st. 0 precedent for it.

Is Beck a future 2 or 3c? If he's a 3c and you're not sure Dubous won't get enticed by a big offer from another team, it's a good deal.

But the pick is another story. There's a big difference between it being the 13th pick and the 29th pick. We'll see where it winds up. 13th pick in this draft is probably a better asset than Owen Beck. 29th isn't.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is Beck a future 2 or 3c? If he's a 3c and you're not sure Dubous won't get enticed by a big offer from another team, it's a good deal.

But the pick is another story. There's a big difference between it being the 13th pick and the 29th pick. We'll see where it winds up. 13th pick in this draft is probably a better asset than Owen Beck. 29th isn't.

He only needs to be a future 3C for us and that's a comfortable projection. He's also pretty close to NHL ready, which makes him valuable to the Habs and what they are trying to do.

Pick as long as it's in the play-offs is the centerpiece for PLD.. if Florida misses, then our offer will have to shift to the conditional CGY 1st.

Bottom line is, Habs have leverage, Jets don't, we don't pay a price that's larger than anyone else has in this position.

 

[Garry Valk]

Why would you want to pay assets to get someone who wants to come here for free in a year?

Because a lot can change in a year.

 

[26Mats]

He only needs to be a future 3C for us and that's a comfortable projection. He's also pretty close to NHL ready, which makes him valuable to the Habs and what they are trying to do.

Pick as long as it's in the play-offs is the centerpiece for PLD.. if Florida misses, then our offer will have to shift to the conditional CGY 1st.

Bottom line is, Habs have leverage, Jets don't, we don't pay a price that's larger than anyone else has in this position.

It's hard for me know how much of a risk there is in losing PLD. Elliot Friedman pegged the risk at only 5%. But I have no idea where and how he came up.with that number.

Securing the following top 6 would be sweet:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovski
Michkov/Benson/Smith - Dach - Dubois
RHP - _______ - Anderson/Roy

 

[WeThreeKings]

It's hard for me know how much of a risk there is in losing PLD. Elliot Friedman pegged the risk at only 5%. But I have no idea where and how he came up.with that number.

Securing the following top 6 would be sweet:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovski
Michkov/Benson/Smith - Dach - Dubois
RHP - _______ - Anderson/Roy

Kypreos put it at 100%, so I think it's pretty solid. Friedman ain't throwing out 95% without a lot of smoke.

 

[26Mats]

Kypreos put it at 100%, so I think it's pretty solid. Friedman ain't throwing out 95% without a lot of smoke.

True

 

[Captain97]

I'm shocked how many people are opposed to PLD. According to NHL.com

Dach 6'4
Slafkovsky 6'3
Dubois 6'4

We've been a small team for so long and we could legitimately have half our top 6 be 6'3+ and we'll over 200lbs. That is ideal for playoff hockey.

Edit: changed few to many, it's been a long day.

 

[yianik]

0 chance we are giving a prospect of Beck's quality in addition to the Florida's 1st. 0 precedent for it.

I hope you are right. I don't care about the 1st, but would really hate to see us lose Beck. But what would it take to get them to trade him to us this summer ? He would be extended.

 

[morhilane]

I'm shocked how many people are opposed to PLD. According to NHL.com

Dach 6'4
Slafkovsky 6'3
Dubois 6'4

We've been a small team for so long and we could legitimately have half our top 6 be 6'3+ and we'll over 200lbs. That is ideal for playoff hockey.

Edit: changed few to many, it's been a long day.

I think many of the "opposed" are only opposed at getting him at the draft via a trade. They are fine with signing him as a UFA in a year and~4 months.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I'm shocked how many people are opposed to PLD. According to NHL.com

Dach 6'4
Slafkovsky 6'3
Dubois 6'4

We've been a small team for so long and we could legitimately have half our top 6 be 6'3+ and we'll over 200lbs. That is ideal for playoff hockey.

Edit: changed few to many, it's been a long day.

I mean, you could have said:

Dach 6'4
Slafkovsky 6'3
Anderson 6'3
Monahan 6'2

At the beginning of the season. Listing names and heights doesn't mean anything.

And most people are opposed to Dubois at any cost.

Being small isn't/hasn't been as much of an issue as not having elite talent for the organization. Dubois is a very good player, but he's been a PP specialist playing on a team with lots of PP weapons. If that PP performance is more team-oriented than player oriented (like the last few guys Bergevin brought in to fix the PP), then you're looking at a guy who produces like the current version of Gallagher or Monahan.

Considering what Dubois will rightly demand on his next contract, its not a risk-less acquisition. And considering the mess Bergevin left behind, Montreal doesn't have that much leeway to take major risks. Calculated ones? fine. But if the choice is trading a good 1st, a quality prospect ++ and then making him the highest paid forward in franchise history, then I'm going to want to spend a ton of time to explore all other options instead. Montreal is rebuilding, Dubois only makes sense if its a good deal.

 

[JoelWarlord]

No chance there would be.

Over the past two years his PPG is about equivalent to players like Krejci, Zegras, Hertl, Barzal, Kopitar, Norris. You don't think Canadiens fans would be interested in getting a 24 y/o C with size who produces like those guys at a discount? Not sure why you would believe that when Anderson and Harvey-Pinard are currently pencilled into our top 6 for next year.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I hope you are right. I don't care about the 1st, but would really hate to see us lose Beck. But what would it take to get them to trade him to us this summer ? He would be extended.

Trouba trade. Same situation. Same GMs (Gorton a VP)