Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[nhlfan9191]

I can't even deal with Jets fans on the main board, they are speaking to us like they are in a position of power or something not understanding that we are in the catbird seat here, Like they have some amazing valuable asset we can't do without lmao

They are in such an extreme position of weakness but still go on about getting some nice quality assets for a red flag ridden dude who's only interested in signing for like 5-6 teams lol.

Can't wait to fleece them or just not get the guy , let LA make the mistake of giving up assets for him.

It’s honestly just sad. They can’t even grasp why they’re in such an awful situation. They shouldn’t be upset with Habs fans trying to tell them the reality of their situation, they should be mad at Kevin Cheveldayoff for putting them in a situation that will see their entire core walk away while getting very little in return because they waited way to long to sell their players.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It’s honestly just sad. They can’t even grasp why they’re in such an awful situation. They shouldn’t be upset with Habs fans trying to tell them the reality of their situation, they should be mad at Kevin Cheveldayoff for putting them in a situation that will see their entire core walk away while getting very little in return because they waited way to long to sell their players.

What do you mean

Dubois wanting to dip
Hellbyuck wanting out
Scheifele dipping is a nothing problem!

 

[Rapala]

Eichel was a dynamic presence in Buffalo. Every single play that happened on the ice had to go through him.

Even with the team being mediocre, Eichel showed commitment and signed a long-term deal, and was promised that Buffalo (after years at the bottom) would do the necessary moves to be competitive.

That never happened, which is the reason Eichel wanted out. Add the whole injury story, and Buffalo complete refusal to let him have his wishes, it’s easy to understand why the relationship soured.

Columbus made a big push for the cup, and Dubois dipped the season after. He didn’t sign a long-term contract when his team was clearly way more committed to win than Buffalo.

You guys keep trying to push that fake narrative. NO ONE cares about Dubois asking for a trade, the problem is HIS ACTUAL PLAY on the ice coupled with the fact that this is the second time he asks for that.

Eichel was always the best player on the ice for his team, and he was actually way more dynamic than he is now with Vegas. His play on the ice is the difference between both. When Vegas needed him, you saw him work his ass off.

Hope that clears the air, buddy.

Don't bother H H is so invested in this Dubois thing he won't listen to reason. He should disappear from this thread again like I told him way back when.
Mentioning Eichel and Dubois in the same sentence is farcical on a player level.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I think people are seeing the situation backward. The bidding war for PLD between MTL and LA (if true), is not about the best return package in a trade but more about the parameters of a contract extension with one or the other team. Basically, PLD controls about everything.

As far as contract extension is concerned, Most probably won’t get more than Suzuki and Caufield if he signs in MTL. And most probably (maybe not), LA can offer him more(maybe as high as 9M$ per).

I think Brisson is negotiating with both teams and will soon determine which team PLD wants to play more considering contract extension.

After that, the return package will be discussed based on what Jets could get for 1 year of PLD.

I don’t think Brisson will give Winnipeg the choice of the trade partner. No chance.

We don't actually know if LA is interested. All we've heard is that LA could be one of the teams that take a run a Dubois.

 

[Benstheman]

We don't actually know if LA is interested. All we've heard is that LA could be one of the teams that take a run a Dubois.

In facts we know nothing Tbh.

My opinion is based on what we heard.

The one thing I know, KH won’t overpay for PLD, both in the trade package and the co tract extension.

 

[Rapala]

Things to do this summer re-read the entire Dubois thread. That should get me to training camp.

 

[Wats]

Kings are the obvious choice/fit but curious how they can make it work cap wise.

 

[Rapala]

Kings are the obvious choice/fit but curious how they can make it work cap wise.

Too bad for Winnipeg. The best options are all probably no go's on Dubois' side. His agent probably can't get him to expand his list of teams if he even has one.

 

[eklund the clown]

Not to mention he has been stuck playing for dinosaur coaches his whole career in Tortorella, Maurice and Bowness. I don't think Maurice is a bad coach, but he was at the end of his coaching life with the Jets while PLD was there.

Playing for a coach like MSL would be a breathe of fresh air for PLD.

Or a nightmare for MSL

 

[Scriptor]

Things to do this summer re-read the entire Dubois thread. That should get me to training camp.

If there was a program that could remove all the repeated nonsense, you should be done reading the thread in under five minutes.

Or a nightmare for MSL

Seriously...

 

[eklund the clown]

If there was a program that could remove all the repeated nonsense, you should be done reading the thread in under five minutes.


Seriously...

lol

 

[Rapala]

the trade that makes sense from a hockey standpoint is KK for Dubois.

Carolina want to win now and Rod BA must be getting impatient with his 2nd line center, who he obviously doesn’t trust. The trick is their Cap after next season. Will Aho sign, will RFA’s take a bridge …

Winnipeg are losing players with expiring contracts - they can lock up a center long term at 4.8. KK can be a 3rd C on contender, 2C on a pretender. Maybe the budget #2 gives them a little more $$ to keep Chef.

Yeah watching them try to win a playoff series with Staal as their second C was painful. Someone pointed out they do have other options but Rod obviously doesn't trust them or he would have adjusted his lines.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Dubois has no leverage to ask for an overpaid contract with Mtl. None.

Dubois will get abit more then Suzuki and Caufield we’re buying alot more UFA years Hughes specifically spoke about that in hes last press conference

Two viewpoints there.

Personally, I feel that while Dubois merits a premium for being one year from UFA, Suzuki got a premium for leadership and Caufield got one for goals being more important than points.

All three might have been at $6.8M if not for the premiums.

I still don't want us to see Dubois as the top forward. He is not. He is either 3 or 4 even now. and would be 4 or 5 if we find a big star.

 

[Rapala]

Two viewpoints there.

Personally, I feel that while Dubois merits a premium for being one year from UFA, Suzuki got a premium for leadership and Caufield got one for goals being more important than points.

All three might have been at $6.8M if not for the premiums.

I still don't want us to see Dubois as the top forward. He is not. He is either 3 or 4 even now. and would be 4 or 5 if we find a big star.

Kent "Pat so Cole is good with the term and the AAV if we add that second year signing bonus of 5M?"
"Deal Let's get it signed"
"Oh by the way since I have you on the phone. Let that other client of yours know we have a line we won't cross."

 

[Guy Larose]

If there was a program that could remove all the repeated nonsense, you should be done reading the thread in under five minutes.


Seriously...

Seriously, people in this thread (and every thread on this board for that matter) constantly repeats themselves with the same stuff over and over...

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Two viewpoints there.

Personally, I feel that while Dubois merits a premium for being one year from UFA, Suzuki got a premium for leadership and Caufield got one for goals being more important than points.

All three might have been at $6.8M if not for the premiums.

I still don't want us to see Dubois as the top forward. He is not. He is either 3 or 4 even now. and would be 4 or 5 if we find a big star.

obviously i would love to sign Dubois for cheap but i dont see any scenario where he would sign for less then Suzuki unless he really wants to be here

PLD easily gets 8/8.5 even maybe 9 has a free agent specially with the cap going up next summer

 

[BaseballCoach]

obviously i would love to sign Dubois for cheap but i dont see any scenario where he would sign for less then Suzuki unless he really wants to be here

PLD easily gets 8/8.5 even maybe 9 has a free agent specially with the cap going up next summer

For that money, I would want a more impactful player.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Wrong. The coach was pointing finger at some other players.

Denial. He said his "better players" had no push back when things didn't go their way in the series and in February when they had a tough stretch. PLD is one of their better players and he was a no show in both instances.

I don't understand all the excuses for a 63 point underachiever who takes so many nights off.

 

[1909]

Let another team handle the case. IF PLD really wants to play for MTL, it's gonna be as a UFA signing in 2024.

Winnipeg trading PLD to L.A. makes lots of sense.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

For that money, I would want a more impactful player.

i would gladly give Dubois 8x8

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Things to do this summer re-read the entire Dubois thread. That should get me to training camp.

Why do you hate yourself?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Things to do this summer re-read the entire Dubois thread. That should get me to training camp.

It's going to be a fun thread to look back on once he is traded. Lol

 

[Schooner Guy]

He didn't get singlehandedly called out, the entire team did. Not to mention that he was one of their best players still in my opinion (which was far from being good by the way).

The "better players" (direct reference from Rick Bowness) got called out for having no push back. Not the entire team.

PLD was fantastic in Game 1. He was so-so in Games 2-3. He mailed it in and bailed on his team, coach and fans in Games 4 and 5.

This is who he is. Remarkably inconsistent effort. He shows up when he wants to and that's it.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

i would gladly give Dubois 8x8

That would be fine. Somewhere between $8m and under $8.5m.

 

[The Great Weal]

The "better players" (direct reference) got called out. Not the entire team.

PLD was fantastic in Game 1. He was so-so in Games 2-3. He mailed it in and bailed on his team, coach and fans in Games 4 and 5.

This is who he is. Remarkably inconsistent effort. He shows up when he wants to and that's it.

Yes but you made it seem as if he was single-handedly called out. The "better players" were called out as you said, that includes Scheifele and Connor. He was one of their better players in that series but that's not saying much since the team sucked. I thought he put more effort than the other "better players" in game 5.

The coach got mad that his leaders had zero pushback since January, he didn't just come out to say that PLD sucks and bench him for not playing well since most of the team sucked. Besides Lowry, the rest of the forward group sucked. That's more of a team thing than a PLD thing.