Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[26Mats]

In the Jets Forum they're starting to talk about hoping they can get a Trouba like deal for Dubois - as that's better than losing him for nothing.

They'd like Florida's 1st, as that's a better 1st than they'd get from a contender for Dubois at the TDL as a rental.

 

[hvac412]

In the Jets Forum they're starting to talk about hoping they can get a Trouba like deal for Dubois - as that's better than losing him for nothing.

They'd like Florida's 1st, as that's a better 1st than they'd get from a contender for Dubois at the TDL as a rental.

Well we gave a 13th for Dach, maybe Hughes can pull it off again with Florida's pick +.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Lol waiting for the anti Dubois crowd to pop in with their “but how do we really know that they had conversations, GM’s always have conversations. 95 percent isn’t that high of a number, that means there’s a 5 percent chance that a big market team like Boston or Colorado gets him, which is definitely a higher probability. We don’t even know if he wants to come here, he just wants to play in a “big market,” on a team that’s based out of a “majority French speaking province,” and that has “bleu, Blanc et rouge” on their jerseys. It could be anyone.

 

[General Fanager]

Am I the only one who isn't a fan of Dubois and don't really want him with the Habs???

I mean if He comes here, fine. But I wont be jumping in the air.

me too

As a UFA then fine but trading assets...no thanks., The Habs have bigger needs....

 

[Seven7]

 

[WeThreeKings]

I've always argued that FO% is scored wrong or should have another category. OT PP PK late period and any draw resulting in an immediate goal should be recorded. Anything else while nice in terms of possession isn't critical.

They also don't track winger wins, etc.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I think a lot of this depends on where the habs pick and where Florida's ends up.
I think ideally, if Hughes is forced to give-up three pieces. he'll prefer to offer up a 2nd.
If habs have a deal in place, I'm starting to wonder if they'll go the reinbacher route with their first pick (i hope not) because dubois essentially becomes that 1st round replacement - like Dach.
Fees like this can go in many different ways still

 

[26Mats]

We just have to find a way to trade:
Dvorak
Anderson
Hoffman
Gallagher
Armia

No small feat.

Dvo and Anderson are moveable, no problem.

Hoffman can definitely be bought out, or perhaps traded with 50% retained.

Armia I'd like to trade for a worse player with a similar contract and bury that player in the AHL for the next two years.

Gally can be bought out in summer 2025, if he's not on LTIR.

So it's only the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 seasons that we're really saddled with a lot of salary. Then it's about 2M per year for 4 years of Gally's buyout on average on the cap - if he's not on LTIR by then.

 

[Rapala]

They also don't track winger wins, etc.

Like you mentioned all good staffs track all this stuff.

 

[26Mats]

Lol waiting for the anti Dubois crowd to pop in with their “but how do we really know that they had conversations, GM’s always have conversations. 95 percent isn’t that high of a number, that means there’s a 5 percent chance that a big market team like Boston or Colorado gets him, which is definitely a higher probability. We don’t even know if he wants to come here, he just wants to play in a “big market,” on a team that’s based out of a “majority French speaking province,” and that has “bleu, Blanc et rouge” on their jerseys. It could be anyone.

I'm pro PLD, but just a couple months ago a respected insider (I don't recall if it was Lebrun or Friedman himself) was saying the chances of PLD becoming a Hab were 50%.

So this news, because I think Friedman is very credible, changes everything.

 

[Runner77]

FWIW, Marco D’Amico was on BPM this afternoon and said that the Jets have been scouting Mailloux. They’ve been looking for a big right handed D who can contribute offensively, to get back what they used to have in Big Buff.

D’Amico poursuit en disant que le Canadien aurait David Reinbacher dans son viseur… Et que si le club prend l’avenue d’échanger Logan Mailloux avant le repêchage, Reinbacher pourrait certainement être sélectionné par Kent Hughes et les dirigeants du CH en juin prochain.

Rappelons que Reinbacher, à l’image de Mailloux, est un grand défenseur qui lance de la droite. Les deux joueurs ont un profil similaire, quoique Mailloux est peut-être un tout petit plus près de la LNH en ce moment. (Italicized text lifted from Danslescouilleslisses).

This type of scenario would be based on the Habs having their eye on Reinbacher, who like Mailloux, is a big right handed D. Both Reinbacher and Mailloux own a similar profile, however the latter would be a little closer to the NHL than Reinbacher.

 

[habsfan891]

FWIW, Marco D’Amico was on BPM this afternoon and said that the Jets have been scouting Mailloux. They’ve been looking for a big right handed D, to get what they used to have in Big Buff.

D’Amico poursuit en disant que le Canadien aurait David Reinbacher dans son viseur… Et que si le club prend l’avenue d’échanger Logan Mailloux avant le repêchage, Reinbacher pourrait certainement être sélectionné par Kent Hughes et les dirigeants du CH en juin prochain.

Rappelons que Reinbacher, à l’image de Mailloux, est un grand défenseur qui lance de la droite. Les deux joueurs ont un profil similaire, quoique Mailloux est peut-être un tout petit plus près de la LNH en ce moment.

This type of scenario would be based on the Habs having their eye on Reinbacher, who like Mailloux, is a big right handed D. Mailloux would be a little closer to the NHL than Reinbacher.

Hard pass no way I give up Mailloux for Dubois with the new info that Dubois is coming here almost guaranteed

 

[Runner77]

Hard pass no way I give up Mailloux for Dubois with the new info that Dubois is coming here almost guaranteed

Mailloux would be the main piece in the deal compared to these other scenarios involving multiple quality pieces. Something’s brewing otherwise why would the Jets be scouting Mailloux?

 

[Ozmodiar]

Dvo and Anderson are moveable, no problem.

Hoffman can definitely be bought out, or perhaps traded with 50% retained.

Armia I'd like to trade for a worse player with a similar contract and bury that player in the AHL for the next two years.

Gally can be bought out in summer 2025, if he's not on LTIR.

So it's only the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 seasons that we're really saddled with a lot of salary. Then it's about 2M per year for 4 years of Gally's buyout on average on the cap - if he's not on LTIR by then.

Yeah, the Gally contract is the only real problem.

Armia’s to a lesser extent, but the money isn’t big considering the youth (const control) on the team.

Mailloux would be the main piece in the deal compared to these other scenarios involving more quality assets. Something’s brewing otherwise why would the Jets be scouting Mailloux?

They are?

 

[Rapala]

Mailloux would be the main piece in the deal compared to these other scenarios involving multiple quality pieces. Something’s brewing otherwise why would the Jets be scouting Mailloux?

You might recall Marinaro reported the same thing a while back...
So it got dismissed out of hand.

 

[Runner77]

They are?

If D’Amico is to be believed?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

FWIW, Marco D’Amico was on BPM this afternoon and said that the Jets have been scouting Mailloux. They’ve been looking for a big right handed D, to get what they used to have in Big Buff.

D’Amico poursuit en disant que le Canadien aurait David Reinbacher dans son viseur… Et que si le club prend l’avenue d’échanger Logan Mailloux avant le repêchage, Reinbacher pourrait certainement être sélectionné par Kent Hughes et les dirigeants du CH en juin prochain.

Rappelons que Reinbacher, à l’image de Mailloux, est un grand défenseur qui lance de la droite. Les deux joueurs ont un profil similaire, quoique Mailloux est peut-être un tout petit plus près de la LNH en ce moment. (Italicized text lifted from Danslescouilleslisses).

This type of scenario would be based on the Habs having their eye on Reinbacher, who like Mailloux, is a big right handed D. Both Reinbacher and Mailloux own a similar profile, however the latter would be a little closer to the NHL than Reinbacher.

They’re not going to get Mailloux
(In my opinion)not after Molson and the organization have stuck with him so far, and how much he’s done in such a short period of time as a player/and off ice. Makes no sense to cut bait after he just finished leading the OHL in goals for defensemen.

They’ve invested far too much into him and he’s responded very well to all the pressure and backlash, while keeping his nose clean.

Winnipeg is more than welcome to draft Reinbacher with the Florida first if he’s still available, but I seriously doubt that Mailloux is even considered for a second as part of a PLD deal.

 

[habsfan891]

Mailloux would be the main piece in the deal compared to these other scenarios involving multiple quality pieces. Something’s brewing otherwise why would the Jets be scouting Mailloux?

They can scout him all they want I don't trade a rd with his size and tools straight up for Dubois

 

[Runner77]

You might recall Marinaro reported the same thing a while back...
So it got dismissed out of hand.

I don’t remember, nor do I want to remember anything Marinaro says, so have no idea. D’Amico appears credible to me, however.

 

[Rapala]

This thread is going to get scorching hot the closer the Jets get to elimination.

 

[Runner77]

They can scout him all they want I don't trade a rd with his size and tools straight up for Dubois

Mailloux is the prototypical Jets D, so not surprised by their interest. We’ll see how far it goes, if it even gets serious.

 

[habsfan891]

Mailloux is the prototypical Jets D, so not surprised by their interest. We’ll see how far it goes, if it even gets serious.

Well hopefully if Hughes is as smart as he seems it doesn't get past Mailloux's name before he hangs up the phone but your right we will see

 

[Rapala]

I don’t remember, nor do I want to remember anything Marinaro says, so have no idea. D’Amico appears credible to me, however.

It was posted here which is the only reason I saw it. I think I replied something like "So a done deal then."

 

[morhilane]

95% coming from Friedman means it’s 100% fait accompli and simply hasn’t been announced.

Talking heads of that ilk speculate based on insider info provided by someone involved in the know..

I think "fait accompli" is a bit too much, with the info that the Jets scouts are looking at Mailloux, I think we can say that any trade talks is at the options evaluation steps for the Jets.

And I'll tend to believe D'Amico about that specific scouting info, since he hangs out with the scouts in junior arena a lot.

 

[Runner77]

It was posted here which is the only reason I saw it. I think I replied something like "So a done deal then."

Don’t know but from what I remember, Marinaro is not a good source for « scoops ».