Sundin and Hossa were the worst ones.
At the same age both Tinordi and Beaulieu had not disappointed and looked as good as Harris/Barron do today. That's the point, we don't know how our current young D will look in 5 years they could be busts just like Tinordi and Beaulieu ended up being.
There’s just as many success stories as there are failure’s like Tinordi or Beaulieu. Just look at Sergachev and McDonagh as mondern examples for our team. If we want to be contenders, we have to take a chance that prospects like Barron hit their ceiling. Can’t constantly dwell on past failures as a way to cope with trading them. Same goes for the people that look at failed rebuilds as opposed to the ones that succeeded.
habs should get pld to sign a 1 year deal where the compensation is a third round pick , then make it up to him next year, this way jets get almost nothing, plus right now the leverage in trade negotiations is heavily in habs favor because of this type of scenerio, the habs have an additional 10 million off of the books next season, so front loading a multi year deal is doable and lowers his cap hit moving forward.
also maybe pld threatens the jets and signs a 1 year deal with the pens who have salary cap room, do it dumbass dubas, this also puts the jets at a disadvantage in trade options right now, the threat of signing any offer sheet means that the jets should eat the loss and move on start the rebuild winnipeg nobody is paying a 1st rounder plus for a 1 year rental, especially knowing that PLD will sign in montreal next year.
A scenario less likely than Edmonton trading us McDavid for the 5th overall in order to clear cap space. Winnipeg will not get fleeced or sell low on PLD, no way no how.
How many 1st rounders are dealt at the deadline for rentals? Here you actually can have him for a full year, and the team can move him themselves at the deadline if they are no longer contenders. No proof of anything more than he will consider signing in Montreal.
My crystal ball and yours don't have the same image.
Why is that a discount?
He took a QO to take him one step closer to UFA. That’s been his end goal for awhile. And it’s not like his QO was some absurd underpay. The value was for him was not having to commit any term to Winnipeg and putting the Jets in the shitty situation their in now a year later.
It's Barron being offered instead of a 31-32 pick. Barron himself was a late first round pick. So is he worth more today than when he was drafted?
Barron is definitely not as promising as Sergachev and Dubois is nowhere near as weak a scorer as Drouin.
Yes, because RD don't grow on trees and he is further developed than a RD you can draft with the Florida pick, and more of a sure thing. Can't always keep moving young players out before you see what you have in them.
What season was it that Tinordi looked as good as Harris? I don't recall him ever playing well for Montreal.
Dubois is also less of a need than rebuilding the RD for the long run. Not the actual player, but the need for a scorer was higher when the Drouin trade was made.
He still took a paycut because he was worth at least a million more... undebatable. Who does that? I don't have any comparable example. There is no value accepting a QO, it's the worst he could get. Easily could have negotiate a better one year contract, no?
There is value in accepting a qualifying offer and I literally told you in the post you quoted.. he took a small hit on one years worth of salary to put himself in a position to walk to UFA earlier. It’s not that complex.
So you take the 2 best D stories of last 20 years and say there is as many failures... common now. How many Tinordi, Beaulieu, Juulsen, Mete, Poehling, Sherback and many more went overboard after the hype? Barron is a good prospect but far from untouchable, he could bust like many others. Those kind of prospects are assets and tradable for proven top 6 talent.
He couldn't negotiate a one year if that's what he wanted? Good one. He left money on the table and no one does that in the NHL world, especially for a team he doesn't want to play for.
HuGo walks into the room and offers 7.875. "You can make as much as our Captain, welcome back to Montreal"
