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“Would you rather that the Habs trade for Dubois or instead wait and try to sign him when he becomes

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Schooner Guy said:
Do you really think points are everything? Did you watch Game 5?

The coach's brutally honest post-game comments hold much more weight.
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Did you see the previous 4 games ? he was the best Jets player. Come on ! It's an easy argument that you can turn in any directions to fit your narrative, as i just did.
I never put too much value to the " one or few games " sampler.
 
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SwiftyHab said:
I’m all for signing him but each red flag reduces his Annual average salary by at least a million.

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Jonathan Marchessault on playing against PLD in the first round:


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The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates."
 
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26Mats said:
Jonathan Marchessault on playing against PLD in the first round:


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The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates.

The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates.
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Wow, what praise!!! Give you 3 guesses who his agent is, and the first two don't count.
 
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26Mats said:
Jonathan Marchessault on playing against PLD in the first round:


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The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates.

L'ancien des Remparts de Québec avoue également ne pas comprendre les critiques envers Pierre-Luc Dubois à Winnipeg.

«Je pense que Pierre-Luc Dubois était leur meilleur joueur sur la glace, à chaque soir. Il travaillait fort et était impliqué physiquement. Sincèrement, je n'ai que des bons mots à dire sur lui. Je trouve que c'était leur joueur le plus dangereux et le plus complet. Je trouve qu'il aurait pu avoir plus d'aide des autres coéquipiers.»
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It's actually very easy to understand, he wants out and so naturally fans will turn on him to help them feel better about losing him. It's the equivalent of "You can't quit because your fired."
 
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Mudz said:
Exactly lol.

The money angle makes 0 sense in regards to the PLD situation. If anything it's quite the contrary.

First, like you said, he accepted his QO. He could have got at least 1-2 millions easily from Winnipeg. It was said that he accepted his QO so he would be easier to trade. Doesn't strike as someone who puts money over everything.

And then, during his presser with the Winnipeg medias, following that signing, he said that for him it's important to be happy where you are and look into the future, where your life will be etc...
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Great post and great profile pic wow! lmfao
 
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26Mats said:
Jonathan Marchessault on playing against PLD in the first round:


using google translate:
The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates.

L'ancien des Remparts de Québec avoue également ne pas comprendre les critiques envers Pierre-Luc Dubois à Winnipeg.

«Je pense que Pierre-Luc Dubois était leur meilleur joueur sur la glace, à chaque soir. Il travaillait fort et était impliqué physiquement. Sincèrement, je n'ai que des bons mots à dire sur lui. Je trouve que c'était leur joueur le plus dangereux et le plus complet. Je trouve qu'il aurait pu avoir plus d'aide des autres coéquipiers.»
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Common Marchesseault doesn't believe any of that, clearly his agent asked him to promote his other french client to the press just to get a better paycheck and street cred on HF.
 
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26Mats said:
Jonathan Marchessault on playing against PLD in the first round:


using google translate:
The former Quebec Remparts also admits not understanding the criticism of Pierre-Luc Dubois in Winnipeg.

“I think Pierre-Luc Dubois was their best player on the ice, every night. He worked hard and was physically involved. Honestly, I only have good words to say about him. I think he was their most dangerous and complete player. I think he could have had more help from the other teammates.

L'ancien des Remparts de Québec avoue également ne pas comprendre les critiques envers Pierre-Luc Dubois à Winnipeg.

«Je pense que Pierre-Luc Dubois était leur meilleur joueur sur la glace, à chaque soir. Il travaillait fort et était impliqué physiquement. Sincèrement, je n'ai que des bons mots à dire sur lui. Je trouve que c'était leur joueur le plus dangereux et le plus complet. Je trouve qu'il aurait pu avoir plus d'aide des autres coéquipiers.»
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Oof some people won't like that
 
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NORiculous said:
Fiscale question… dont know if anyone here has the answer but here goes:

Let’s say Dubois signs with MTL on July 3rd. Maybe the deal was ready before, doesn’t matter.

So MTL gives him a signing bonus of, let’s say, 7M.

Dubois doesn’t sell his house for, let’s say, another 2 months.

So… since he still lives in the US when the deal is signed and since he has stayed outside of Canada for more then 6 months in the current fiscal year (deal signed after July 1st), can he pay his taxes in the US for the first year of his contract?
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I think you forgot that Dubois was traded from Columbus to Winnipeg over two years ago. He doesn't live in the US.
 
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ZUKI said:
Did you see the previous 4 games ? he was the best Jets player. Come on ! It's an easy argument that you can turn in any directions to fit your narrative, as i just did.
I never put too much value to the " one or few games " sampler.
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PLD was even worse in Game 4 than he was in Game 5 and that's saying a lot. He had a strong game 1 (2 points) but then went minus-7 from Games 2-5.

Good player but very inconsistent and overrated by this fan base.
 
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salbutera said:
PLDs wife / significant other is an American from Michigan, and they spend most of their offseason at their residence in Fla near Huberdeau.
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So he probably ends up in Florida. No pressure. Beautiful weather. No tax state.

They have Tkachuk & Barkov signed long term. They don't have the money in 2023, but they definitely do in 2024. They have a ton of money available after next season.

They can't trade anything for him, but they can wait it out til 2024 and get in on him July 1st.

Vegas, Detroit, Philadelphia & Boston are all going to have significant cap space summer of 2024.

He's got a good UFA year cap-wise unlike those who were UFA 2022 & 2023.
 
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Harry Kakalovich said:
I would prefer a reclamation project in Lafreniere. I am not a fan of PLD. I hope the Habs pass on him.
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Dubois is actually good though, laffreniere is more like a third liner who can chip in 5 on 5 , Dubois is a legit top 6 player in the league.

I'm not a fan of us giving up assets or too much money for Dubois due to our position but he is a pretty good hockey player let's not kid ourselves
 
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The Gr8 Dane said:
Dubois is actually good though, laffreniere is more like a third liner who can chip in 5 on 5 , Dubois is a legit top 6 player in the league
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I prefer Lafreniere. I feel there is more upside there. He's younger and his contract situation is more in the Habs control if they trade for him now. I don't feel there's any upside with Dubois - he's 25 and I see more downside to upside in acquiring him.
 
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Harry Kakalovich said:
I prefer Lafreniere. I feel there is more upside there. He's younger and his contract situation is more in the Habs control if they trade for him now. I don't feel there's any upside with Dubois - he's 25 and I see more downside to upside in acquiring him.
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Whenever I watch Lafreniere play I just don't see the upside he does nothing well and everything ok. He also bobbles alot of pucks and really doesn't show a whole lot of skill when puck handling. Maybe it's a confidence issue or development issue but he legit plays like a third liner you could never tell this guy went 1st overall if you removed the name from his jersey.

That said I understand your sentiment on rather taking a gamble on laffy than Dubois since there's pretty much no risk involved with laffy
 
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