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It's all over for Jack Eichel

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I think its extremely important for Canadians to be the best at ice hockey. Not at all for Americans. Its our 4th team sport .

The US vs Canada thing is a myth from the American end anyways. So there really is no 'McDavid vs Eichel and certainly no need to 'boo' the guy
 
Mortgage Broker said:
I think its extremely important for Canadians to be the best at ice hockey. Not at all for Americans. Its our 4th team sport .

The US vs Canada thing is a myth from the American end anyways. So there really is no 'McDavid vs Eichel and certainly no need to 'boo' the guy
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At the moment, that's the feeling towards it.

But the only reason that the US doesn't hype it up is because they haven't had the success that Canada has had.

The US has done a phenomenal job over the past decade of building up the sport across the country. The USHL has taken small strides to become a solid league and the NCAA still churns out a ton of prospects.

Media drives a lot of things in sports. That's obvious. I mean, what's there to get excited about a Tuesday night game in the middle of January between Carolina and Buffalo (just an example). But I'm sure they could spin a way to make it into something that it isn't.

Just like a couple years ago when they were really pushing Taylor vs Tyler. They really just need a good enough storyline to roll with to try and get people talking.

In all reality, McDavid is the clear cut #1 by a landslide. But how exciting is that to talk about leading up to the draft? They absolutely need some sort of gimmick and they are using the US vs Canada hype train.
 
ulvvf said:
Both have showed that they are ridiculously overrated. McDavid probably the most overrated talent ever, cant even stand out when he competes against players in his own age in his home country, and he should be the biggest talent this generation? Yeah right, they are probably more than 10 bigger talents in just this tournaments.

With that said, they are both good talent, but consider the hype they have failed completely. Both will probably have a good NHL career, but that is because NHL is corrupt and always make sure that the superhype talents succeed, NHL is just about politics and for show.
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lol.

I actually like this post. It's just so funny.
I totally disagree with it because I think it's so disgustingly wrong. But it's hilarious. :laugh:
 
JJTT said:
Teräväinen last year 2,14 PPG
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There is a difference between finishing first in scoring and dominating. Teräväinen only scored 2 goals last year, so I don't think I would call him dominating. The last guy who dominated was probably Brayden Schenn.
 
I think it was still close early on in the tournament, but McDavid is taking over and making it look like there was just a bit of rust at the start given his injury.
 
Mortgage Broker said:
I think its extremely important for Canadians to be the best at ice hockey. Not at all for Americans. Its our 4th team sport .

The US vs Canada thing is a myth from the American end anyways. So there really is no 'McDavid vs Eichel and certainly no need to 'boo' the guy
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Agreed.

The US has been mostly irrelevant in ice hockey since 1996.

Canada's true rivals have been Sweden and Russia.

Aside from building a stacked Junior program, I haven't seen a lot of difference in results over the past 15 years.
 
NyQuil said:
They won the World Cup in stunning fashion.
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To use one example, since this is a WJC thread, they have won Gold 2 of the last 5 years. Canada hasn't won Gold once, nor any medal the last 2 years.

Perhaps you weren't a hockey fan yet during the 2010 Olympics.
 
PensBandwagonerNo272 said:
To use one example, since this is a WJC thread, they have won Gold 2 of the last 5 years. Canada hasn't won Gold once, nor any medal the last 2 years.

Perhaps you weren't a hockey fan yet during the 2010 Olympics.
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That's why I mentioned the stacked WJC team system.

Slovakia is doing the same thing now so it's not so surprising that they made the medal round.
 
Probably one of the most misleading thread titles:laugh:

It souds really dramatic, like he sustained a major injury or something...
 
Tripod said:
Honest question though.

If you were GM, and had the 1st overall pick, would you take the chance on Eichel and pass on someone who has been called a generational talent for years?

If a GM takes McDavid #1 and Eichel ends up better, no one would blame that GM for that choice.

But if a GM takes Eichel #1 and McDavid ended up better, he would be ripped for not taking the obvious choice at #1.

It's easy to say...I went with the one who has been touted as generational for years.

Not so easy to say....I disagreed with everyone who said McDavid was generational....and was wrong.
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Eichel has been regarded in the same way in the US as McDavid has been in Canada but the difference is one is American hype and one is Canadian. Hockey is the 5th or 6th sport in the US. I have family in Boston, Eichel has been in the papers since he was 9 years old.

Regardless this argument is not how you draft you draft based on all your top scouts and GM watching the player not based on hype.
 
OttawaRoughRiderFan said:
There are players that play both. Statistics can be twisted to say whatever you want them to say.
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All people talk about are stats in this thread and not what the player is actually doing on the ice. Actually HF is seemingly purely based on stats and peoples arguments because its really the only tangible thing that non hockey playing people and hockey playing people can argue about.
 
After day 1 of WJC, I thought Eichel would outplay McDavid this tournament. But since that day, McDavid is clearly the better player. But if Oilers get #1 overall and draft McDavid, Eichel will be thanking his lucky stars he didn't go #1 and Eichel will end up a better player... itll be like another Hall/Seguin thing and McDavid will hate his life in Edmonton and Eichel will be enjoying life somewhere else
 
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