Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. II

[seafoam]

I can see him making the roster next year. That's a men's league he is playing in. You can't teach that type of release, that would have gone in, in any league.

Where exactly if you don't mind me asking?

 

[molotce]

How weird would it be if Raty wasn't the goods at this point? This guys +1 draft year has been insane.

I drafted him first round in my keeper
Ill follow closely how he develops ! Loved the camp. And the wjss. Also his start in liiga. I hope he is goig to become a top6, but ill still have to wait. I’m being parient because of the small period and liiga level. Juuso parssinen is producing really well, is he a future top 6?! Tolvanen will become a first liner ? He was top 5 in some prospect rankings !

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Where exactly if you don't mind me asking?

I would like to see him on the left wing with Nelson or Pageau next season. Maybe even Center down the road. Not saying he is going to be a second rd steal like Aho was, but he may be a more rounded young player than Wally will be, where his main contribution is goal scoring. I see Raty as more versatile a player, a few more tools in the toolbox.

 

[xECK29x]

 

[SI90]

kid is trending in the right direction. Please Heavenly Father let Raty be our big time draft steal

 

[doublechili]

That seems like an easy goal, but a lot of guys would have shot it right away into the goalie's pads. I LOVE the way he waited and moved left to tuck it into the opening.

 

[Top Corner]

That seems like an easy goal, but a lot of guys would have shot it right away into the goalie's pads. I LOVE the way he waited and moved left to tuck it into the opening.

That’s the difference between a 4th liner and first liner, the patience and vision to know you have that extra second

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders	14	0	4	4	4	1
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	2	New York Islanders	15	5	0	5	8	-2
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	3	Bridgeport Islanders	13	0	0	0	8	-3
Aatu Raty	C	2021 round 2 #52	4	Oulun Karpat	6	0	1	1	2	1
				* Jukurit	4	4	2	6	0	5
				Finland U20 (all)	11	7	13	20	4	1
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	5	Bridgeport Islanders	14	2	6	8	0	-1
				* New York Islanders	2	0	0	0	0	-3
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	6	Vasterviks IK	12	0	5	5	2	-3
Simon Holmstrom	RW/LW	2019 round 1 #23	7	Bridgeport Islanders	17	2	9	11	0	0
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	8	New York Islanders	5	0	1	1	2	2
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	9	Saint John Sea Dogs	20	16	15	31	14	10
+ Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	10	Adler Mannheim	1	0	0	0	0	1
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	11	New York Islanders	4	0	0	0	0	-4
Anatoli Golyshev	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #95	12	Bridgeport Islanders	13	5	2	7	10	0
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	13	Merrimack College	11	2	4	6	4	-1
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	Bridgeport Islanders	10	0	1	1	10	-3
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	14	Bridgeport Islanders	17	3	12	15	4	2
Grant Hutton	D	FA	15	Bridgeport Islanders	10	2	0	2	4	-4
				* New York Islanders	2	0	0	0	0	-1
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	19	Brynas IF	5	0	0	0	0	-2
				* Brynas IF J20	16	2	7	9	2	-4
				Sweden U20 (all)	8	1	1	2	0	-2
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	20	* Lehden Pelicans	22	0	3	3	6	-1
				Finland U20 (all)	8	0	2	2	2	0
Collin Adams	LW/C	2016 round 6 #170	HM1	Worcester Railers	8	1	3	4	0	-3
Cameron Berg	C	2021 round 4 #125	HM2	Univ. of Nebraska Omaha	13	6	3	9	2	3
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	HM3	Bridgeport Islanders	16	5	3	8	0	-2
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM4	Bridgeport Islanders	17	4	8	12	14	-4
Aleksi Malinen	D	2021 round 6 #189	HM5	JYP	3	0	0	0	0	-3
				* JYP U20	13	1	9	10	6	4
				Finland U20 (all)	5	1	0	1	2	0
Eetu Liukas	LW	2021 round 5 #157		* TPS	13	1	0	1	10	-2
				TPS U20	11	10	10	20	12	6
				Finland U20 (all)	10	1	0	1	14	-1
Ben Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College	8	1	0	1	6	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ.	14	0	4	4	22	-3
? - Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tomas Machu	D	2021 round 7 #221		HC Vitkovice	10	0	0	0	2	-5
				* HC Vitkovice U20	6	2	5	7	4	2
				Draci Sumperk	5	0	5	5	2	1
				Dukla Jihlava	1	0	0	0	0	1
				Czechia U20	0	0	0	0	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201		Boston Univ.	12	0	1	1	0	-4
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Tristan Lennox	G	2021 round 3 #93	17	Saginaw Spirit	8	2.67	.888	0	4-3-0
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72	17	Bridgeport Islanders	11	3.07	.901	1	5-3-3
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		Kalpa	2	4.95	.765	0	0-2-0
				* MoDo Hockey	6	2.82	.899	1	4-2-0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[The Winter Soldier]

 

[leeroggy]

Speaking of a prospect we rarely talk about, has anyone had a chance to see Christian Krygier much?

Good size for a stay-at-home LHD who has NHL lineage so you'd think his hockey IQ is good. Academic All-American. Sounds like Hutton on the left side.

 

[xECK29x]

Speaking of a prospect we rarely talk about, has anyone had a chance to see Christian Krygier much?

Good size for a stay-at-home LHD who has NHL lineage so you'd think his hockey IQ is good. Academic All-American. Sounds like Hutton on the left side.

Way less offensive, but should be a long-time minor-pro. He has good bloodlines, is a coaches son, and USA Hockey likes him.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

What's up with Jacob Pivonka? Everyone was touting him as a Cizikas-like player. Is he injured?

 

[xECK29x]

What's up with Jacob Pivonka? Everyone was touting him as a Cizikas-like player. Is he injured?

Yes been injured since the start of the year: Notre Dame names captains for 2021-22 season

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Dufour and Raty have certainly given the prospects core a good boost this season. Holmstrom looks to be developing also. Just need Bolduc to pick up where he left off last season. We have seen Salo already, looks like he will be sticking around next year with the Isles.

 

[The Real JT]

Dufour with 1 goal (#17) and 2 assists tonight.

 

[danteipp]

Dufour and Raty have certainly given the prospects core a good boost this season. Holmstrom looks to be developing also. Just need Bolduc to pick up where he left off last season. We have seen Salo already, looks like he will be sticking around next year with the Isles.

While I really hope the Isles find a way to pull out of their tailspin to start this season, I'm also very happy with the development (at least so far) of Sorokin (taking the next step towards being a franchise goalie in the NHL), Raty, Dufour, Holmstrom, Salo, etc.

I want to be very clear that my first choice is to see the Isles make the playoffs and make another deep run, however, for a team that has taken some very big steps over the last several seasons, a little adversity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It allows for a terrific look at who works harder and steps up vs. who sulks and/or quits.

Organic growth isn't necessarily linear and, for a team that has taken multiple steps forward the last few years, a slight backslide, followed by adding some new blood, shuffling around some assets, etc. could be beneficial for the long term.

Of course it will be very important to NOT deal next year's first rounder, until closer to the trade deadline and when a better idea has been formed on if the Isles can get into legitimate playoff position.

No way I want to see them potentially move a lottery pick, which would either need to be protected (specifically if it ends up in the top 3) or only used in a larger deal for a young sniper, with term to play on the top line.

It is still a big positive that the Isles young prospects named above (and Sorokin), have been developing well. Hopefully Dobson and Wahlstrom get untracked and finish strong at the NHL level as well.

A down year for the overall team wouldn't be very exciting this season, however, it could present a great opportunity to retool a bit and get players, who might not otherwise see big minutes, some very important experience.

Challenging these young players to navigate initial growing pains, then come back better the following season ready to make an impact, will help the Isles get younger, faster and more skilled for the long haul.

 

[The Real JT]

…….
I want to be very clear that my first choice is to see the Isles make the playoffs and make another deep run……

No way I want to see them potentially move a lottery pick…

Couldn’t agree more.

Lou won’t sell NHL regulars for futures. I’d be ok with a hockey trade with established players but if they’re clearly not competitive at the TDL, let’s hope he doesn’t trade next year’s #1 pick for a band aid fix.

 

[seafoam]

I was at the Baby Islanders game last night and Holmstrom looked good. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a cup of coffee at some point this season and was a legitimate call up option next year.

 

[molotce]

any Raty/finnish fan has seen his last 2 games ? was wondering about his on ice play ! thanks

 

[danteipp]

I was at the Baby Islanders game last night and Holmstrom looked good. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a cup of coffee at some point this season and was a legitimate call up option next year.

Maybe I am overzealous, or just plain crazy, but he seems like the ideal third-line player to me, alongside JGP and a natural goal scorer, like Wahlstrom (or perhaps Palms, if he gets pushed down by Wahlstrom AND can finally start scoring goals again). Holmstrom's natural passing ability and skating seems perfect for a third line that will challenge weaker/shallow teams.

 

[danteipp]

Couldn’t agree more.

Lou won’t sell NHL regulars for futures. I’d be ok with a hockey trade with established players but if they’re clearly not competitive at the TDL, let’s hope he doesn’t trade next year’s #1 pick for a band aid fix.

Definitely. I think you can gamble with Colorado's second rounder, however, the first rounder needs to go for that missing piece on the top line or saved.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Maybe I am overzealous, or just plain crazy, but he seems like the ideal third-line player to me, alongside JGP and a natural goal scorer, like Wahlstrom (or perhaps Palms, if he gets pushed down by Wahlstrom AND can finally start scoring goals again). Holmstrom's natural passing ability and skating seems perfect for a third line that will challenge weaker/shallow teams.

This is exactly where Holmstrom will land in my opinion watching the baby isles games this year. He is just solid up and down the wing player, good skills and will be player that plays on both special teams units and in a good year gets 40-50 points.

 

[seafoam]

Maybe I am overzealous, or just plain crazy, but he seems like the ideal third-line player to me, alongside JGP and a natural goal scorer, like Wahlstrom (or perhaps Palms, if he gets pushed down by Wahlstrom AND can finally start scoring goals again). Holmstrom's natural passing ability and skating seems perfect for a third line that will challenge weaker/shallow teams.

I think Holmstrom is a RW at the pro level for various reasons and I'm ticketing him to be the successor for Bailey.

 

[JRD76]

They seem to be molding Holmstrom into a good all around player as he plays on both the pp and pk

 

[danteipp]

I think Holmstrom is a RW at the pro level for various reasons and I'm ticketing him to be the successor for Bailey.

I think RW is definitely prefered and, if Holmstrom can replace Bailey at or near the minimum for a few seasons, all the better. Of course the issue then becomes finding a home for Bailey elsewhere - and the cost to get that done. Right now Bailey is the Outbreak monkey, until he shows otherwise, lol.