Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. II

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doublechili

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But can that 4th line hold up to BOTH a normal 82-game schedule PLUS a playoff run? As I've pointed out, in the last 30+ games THIS season they produced pretty much NOTHING offensively (maybe 4 goals total?) before they played a role in the playoffs. Over 82 games I see either more time spent on IR for them or an even longer drought and at $8 million+ you are playing with fire with missing the playoffs entirely. Remember we clinched a spot with like 2 games left. 56 games versus 82 is a whole different ballgame for an aging line that HAS to play physical to be effective.
Those are good points, however with an 82 game schedule it's less of a sprint to the playoffs and you can rotate guys in and out of the lineup. They can each play 50-60 regular season games if Trotz plays Johnston, Goly or whoever 30-40 games each.
 
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You had me until the Nielsen/Okposo comment. I was fine with both of them leaving at the time. Nielsen was a nice player for us but in the playoff years against WAS and then PIT he showed he was not a playoff warrior (and made gaffes at crucial times in both series [edit: it may have been WAS, not TB, with the gaffe - Kuznetsov goal I think] ). And KO seemed like a great guy but was a puck management disaster.

The sentiment on those 2 players was mixed for sure and I guess you were on the right side.

Those teams had such a lack of talent that any loss appeared to be a bad idea. The alternative of signing a UFA also wasn't a realistic option.

The only thing I still miss is the Backhand of Justice in the shootout.

For the record, I also think the shootout is an abomination and should be eliminated. Maybe the NBA should just have a free throw shooting contest if the score is still tied after a five minute OT?
 
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The sentiment on those 2 players was mixed for sure and I guess you were on the right side.

Those teams had such a lack of talent that any loss appeared to be a bad idea. The alternative of signing a UFA also wasn't a realistic option.

The only thing I still miss is the Backhand of Justice in the shootout.

For the record, I also think the shootout is an abomination and should be eliminated. Maybe the NBA should just have a free throw shooting contest if the score is still tied after a five minute OT?
What's the NBA?
 

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Tbh the pool is really just defensemen at this rate and holmstrom.
I think I'd take Holmstrom developing into even a replacement level player at this point. Sure he's still young but everything about his game is so "meh". I really wanted Tomasino or McMichael at the time and those two are looking like great picks. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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I think I'd take Holmstrom developing into even a replacement level player at this point. Sure he's still young but everything about his game is so "meh". I really wanted Tomasino or McMichael at the time and those two are looking like great picks. Hope I'm wrong.
Holmstrom still is gonna get to grow, but who knows. Tomasino and McMicheal need to grow also but who knows. Lets see how he does should holmstrom get to play in the NHL this season
 

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I think I'd take Holmstrom developing into even a replacement level player at this point. Sure he's still young but everything about his game is so "meh". I really wanted Tomasino or McMichael at the time and those two are looking like great picks. Hope I'm wrong.

I think you will be . . .

Go back 18 months and you'd see the same things said about Wahlstrom, with matching stats. When I watched the kid at the WJHC I saw two elite offensive skills, it's VERY difficult to get the puck away from him and his offensive IQ is high end. Just like Wally, when you see him with TRUE talent around him you will see the difference.
 

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I think you will be . . .

Go back 18 months and you'd see the same things said about Wahlstrom, with matching stats. When I watched the kid at the WJHC I saw two elite offensive skills, it's VERY difficult to get the puck away from him and his offensive IQ is high end. Just like Wally, when you see him with TRUE talent around him you will see the difference.
His juniors was his best showings period. he easily was one of the better swedes on the ice aside that soderstrom kid (Detroit pick), raymond and gunler. Im fine with him as a pick, since he was all over the place last year and couldnt get much adjustment. He also wasn't as bad as the kid edmonton chose, especially considering who went past him. Broberg looks really mediocre compared to zegras, boldy, caufield, knight, newhook, krebs, etc.
 
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They really haven't had many picks whatsoever the past few years.

But in general, they also took Bolduc, Coskey, and Bibeau, so that chart could have included them as well, especially since they're all in BPort on at least an AHL contract.
I am assuming Bolduc is one of their best if not the best prospect so should have been there. Probably an oversight.
 

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I am assuming Bolduc is one of their best if not the best prospect so should have been there. Probably an oversight.
Bolduc is probably our best prospect period simply because he's got size and a shot. Being 6'4, a left shot, and 14 points in his first AHL campaign isn't bad at all. while he is a lefty, he still can be a valuable piece for this team
 

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Bolduc is probably our best prospect period simply because he's got size and a shot. Being 6'4, a left shot, and 14 points in his first AHL campaign isn't bad at all. while he is a lefty, he still can be a valuable piece for this team

Leddy and Green are left shots. It is possible that both these guys are gone opening the door for Bolduc to make a run for a starting position in pre-season
 

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I think you will be . . .

Go back 18 months and you'd see the same things said about Wahlstrom, with matching stats. When I watched the kid at the WJHC I saw two elite offensive skills, it's VERY difficult to get the puck away from him and his offensive IQ is high end. Just like Wally, when you see him with TRUE talent around him you will see the difference.

You got to keep in mind that we reached to pick Holmström. Nobody expected him to go in the 1st round. I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t think he showed any 1st round talent nor ability in the Swedish junior league prior to the draft... and to be fair - he hasn’t showed anything spectacular after the draft either. I’m still upset that we didn’t picked Höglander instead.

I don’t think we should have any high hopes for the player to develop into anything special, maybe a fringe roster player at best. I hope he will prove me wrong though.
 
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You got to keep in mind that we reached to pick Holmström. Nobody expected him to go in the 1st round. I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t think he showed any 1st round talent nor ability in the Swedish junior league prior to the draft... and to be fair - he hasn’t showed anything spectacular after the draft either. I’m still upset that we didn’t picked Höglander instead.

I don’t think we should have any high hopes for the player to develop into anything special, maybe a fringe roster player at best. I hope he will prove me wrong though.
I actually think from reading scouting reports and watching the world junior and a few games in Ahl this year he has upside as a middle six player who can play on all special teams units. He also is very good along boards and isn’t afraid of the physical game and has very good hockey sense. I can’t really think if a comparable NHLer right now.
 
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You got to keep in mind that we reached to pick Holmström. Nobody expected him to go in the 1st round. I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t think he showed any 1st round talent nor ability in the Swedish junior league prior to the draft... and to be fair - he hasn’t showed anything spectacular after the draft either. I’m still upset that we didn’t picked Höglander instead.

I don’t think we should have any high hopes for the player to develop into anything special, maybe a fringe roster player at best. I hope he will prove me wrong though.

It was a terrible pick. But hey could be worse we could have been the bruins and burned two first round picks on reaches lol.
 

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I actually think from reading scouting reports and watching the world junior and a few games in Ahl this year he has upside as a middle six player who can play on all special teams units. He also is very good along boards and isn’t afraid of the physical game and has very good hockey sense. I can’t really think if a comparable NHLer right now.
They said vrana. someone else said tanguay. the best possible way for him to get better is to develop that shot. It can be absolutely nice as well. Board play is there and hes physical too. Regardlessly, he's gonna need more development in the AHL. Goring probably would love this kid if he could play more like anders lee
 

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They said vrana. someone else said tanguay. the best possible way for him to get better is to develop that shot. It can be absolutely nice as well. Board play is there and hes physical too. Regardlessly, he's gonna need more development in the AHL. Goring probably would love this kid if he could play more like anders lee
I think he was reach but also safe at same time because the kid has talent and he works hard and wants to be an NHLer. I’m sure there will be more talent in Bridgeport this year and you will see his points number increase substantially because of that.
 
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You got to keep in mind that we reached to pick Holmström. Nobody expected him to go in the 1st round. I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t think he showed any 1st round talent nor ability in the Swedish junior league prior to the draft... and to be fair - he hasn’t showed anything spectacular after the draft either. I’m still upset that we didn’t picked Höglander instead.

I don’t think we should have any high hopes for the player to develop into anything special, maybe a fringe roster player at best. I hope he will prove me wrong though.
Not accurate, when the pick was announced McKenzie said two teams had a first round ranking with one of them at#15 overall. I saw his Q&A after the pick and he’s a pretty smart kid who has a mature approach to getting to the NHL. I suggest you watch it in YouTube.
 
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Not accurate, when the pick was announced McKenzie said two teams had a first round ranking with one of them at#15 overall. I saw his Q&A after the pick and he’s a pretty smart kid who has a mature approach to getting to the NHL. I suggest you watch it in YouTube.
also i dont think that there was anything wrong with tomasino, suzuki, and the others who came next. it all boiled down to what the scouting staff likes. To me, if they got a guy like suzuki it would be nice, but in the "now", they really do not need a center. Holmstrom to me is someone as a project, even if the bridgeport coaching staff is pretty doodoo
 

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I think he was reach but also safe at same time because the kid has talent and he works hard and wants to be an NHLer. I’m sure there will be more talent in Bridgeport this year and you will see his points number increase substantially because of that.
Well it also should increase because he isn't playing just two teams and no fans. Bridgeport should be better if there are more talented players coming, including golyshev (if possible)
 

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Not accurate, when the pick was announced McKenzie said two teams had a first round ranking with one of them at#15 overall. I saw his Q&A after the pick and he’s a pretty smart kid who has a mature approach to getting to the NHL. I suggest you watch it in YouTube.

That’s two outliers. It’s a reach if only 6% of the NHL teams expect him to go in the first round.

Nobody I spoke with in Sweden expected him to go in the 1st round prior to the draft.
 
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