Post-Game Talk: Islanders 2 - Jets 1

[Ggg99]

Officially entered "watch the highlights" territory for me. This team isn't worth my evening.

 

[JetsFan815]

The bottom-6 is putrid. Lee Stempniak would be an ideal addition on this team and I say this completely unironically.

 

[tbcwpg]

AJF should be playing, not be a 13th forward. He hustles and can score. I don't know about Appleton and Barron ? Maybe I'd keep Barron ? replace the rest. These guys like Stenlund and Melalainen are big, good skaters, but "cannot score."

Just think of how good the Jets were when we were missing a lot of our starters, when they were hustling really hard, and winning games. That version of the Jets were a better team, and more fun to watch.

I mean, AJF has 15 career points so I think saying he can score is being extremely generous. He's as rotational as Saku and Stenlund and Kuhlman.

 

[Potrzebie]

AJF should be playing, not be a 13th forward. He hustles and can score. I don't know about Appleton and Barron ? Maybe I'd keep Barron ? replace the rest. These guys like Stenlund and Melalainen are big, good skaters, but "cannot score."

Just think of how good the Jets were when we were missing a lot of our starters, when they were hustling really hard, and winning games. That version of the Jets were a better team, and more fun to watch.

AJF has like 4 goals, he scores about as much as anyone else in the bottom 6, lol.

And by that I mean rarely

 

[Cypruss]

Some got mad a few weeks ago when i called Lowry a 4th liner who penalty kills.

I for one fully agree with you that Adam Lowry has good skills as a fourth line PK player on a strong team.

Problem is that Adam now uses the pronouns third line / centre, and identifies as a third line centre in the NHL so if you don’t call him one of those things, then you are a bad person or something like that.

Anyways, we can all have our opinions on these matters, and I identify him as fourth line centre. Chevy needs some adds to make this a reality for this current playoff team, not contending team.

 

[JetsFan815]

Mikey Eyssimont: 36GP, 12 Points

Kuhlman and Maenalanen combined: 78 GP, 12 Points

Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams.

 

[gojetsgo]

Mikey Eyssimont: 36GP, 12 Points

Kuhlman and Maenalanen combined: 78 GP, 12 Points

Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams.

homegrown? we got him as a ufa after the kings didn't sign him when he was 24 lol...

 

[tbcwpg]

Mikey Eyssimont: 36GP, 12 Points

Kuhlman and Maenalanen combined: 78 GP, 12 Points

Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams.

"Homegrown" is signing a player after his drafted team releases him, for one year on your AHL team before calling him up for 20 total games?

He wouldn't get the same minutes or linemates here. He's got 7 points in 17 games playing with the likes of Meier, Hertl and Couture.

I'm not saying I'd rather have Kuhlman or Maenalainen, I'd rather not have all 3, but this isn't this travesty you're making it out to be.

 

[KingBogo]

homegrown? we got him as a ufa after the kings didn't sign him when he was 24 lol...

I was just about to post this he was drafted by LA and spent 3 years with their AHL team. After his ELC he was released and signed by Chevy in July 2021.

 

[LowLefty]

homegrown? we got him as a ufa after the kings didn't sign him when he was 24 lol...

Does it really matter how we got him?

 

[gojetsgo]

Does it really matter how we got him?

if he is claiming he is "homegrown" then yes, yes it does...

 

[Duke749]

I’m just disappointed more then anything

 

[LowLefty]

if he is claiming he is "homegrown" then yes, yes it does...

So you think the driving point in that post was where he started his career?
I can't blame you too much for jumping on it since 2 others followed right behind you -
It really doesn't matter - the point is, he is likely more effective than some of the guys we hauled into the lineup.

 

[KingBogo]

I for one fully agree with you that Adam Lowry has good skills as a fourth line PK player on a strong team.

Problem is that Adam now uses the pronouns third line / centre, and identifies as a third line centre in the NHL so if you don’t call him one of those things, then you are a bad person or something like that.

Anyways, we can all have our opinions on these matters, and I identify him as fourth line centre. Chevy needs some adds to make this a reality for this current playoff team, not contending team.

It is only fans and media that number lines. You can have a line of Barron-Lowry-Apples and another bottom 6 line made up of players who can score once and awhile. They can get close to same amount of minutes. Everyone is happy.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Mikey Eyssimont: 36GP, 12 Points

Kuhlman and Maenalanen combined: 78 GP, 12 Points

Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams.

Eyssimont was a draft pick by the Kings that the Jets signed in free agency after he wasn't qualified.

 

[gojetsgo]

So you think the driving point in that post was where he started his career?
I can't blame you too much for jumping on it since 2 others followed right behind you -
It really doesn't matter - the point is, he is likely more effective than some of the guys we hauled into the lineup.

"Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams."

if you don't see how calling saying essy was a homegrown talent that we got rid of for cast offs when in fact essy was a cast off from the kings is wrong then idk what to tell you...

he could have said we should have kept essy over the other bottom six options but he tried to make it seem a lot worse then it was

could essy be better then what we have? maybe.. would he put up the same numbers he has with the sharks? doubtful from who he would be playing with and the minutes he would be getting..

bottom line is acting like we drafted developed him for years(homegrown) and got rid of him as soon as he was ready is just disingenuous

 

[LowLefty]

Mikey Eyssimont: 36GP, 12 Points

Kuhlman and Maenalanen combined: 78 GP, 12 Points

Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams.

He was never going to be the answer to our scoring prayers -
But he brought what you noted - physical and tenacious which are a couple of traits that we need in the lineup right now.
Then you can hope some of it might rub off on the others who are also paid to do what he does - assuming they can't score.

We most definitely need more scoring - we also need more of what Eyssimont brought to every shift he played - and to an extent, in the short time he did play, it was infectious. We had more zip in those days

 

[Duke749]

6 and 8 last 14 games . This could be the real jets

Our bottom 6 is catching up with us imo

9 more days and we could be in a wildcard but chevys going to wait for a bargain like always .

Hopefully we get out of this slump.

The real Jets is likely somewhere a bit in between. 14 games doesn’t define you as much as 44 games. Sports teams don’t win and lose consistently. There are ups and downs over a long season. One stretch whether good or bad never define a team.

 

[Duke749]

You want to fix the bottom six? Then you add guys that can force others down the lineup. You force guys like Lowry, Barron, Kulhman, or Appleton down then suddenly we’re much better.

 

[JetsFan815]

homegrown? we got him as a ufa after the kings didn't sign him when he was 24 lol...

"Homegrown" is signing a player after his drafted team releases him, for one year on your AHL team before calling him up for 20 total games?

He wouldn't get the same minutes or linemates here. He's got 7 points in 17 games playing with the likes of Meier, Hertl and Couture.

I'm not saying I'd rather have Kuhlman or Maenalainen, I'd rather not have all 3, but this isn't this travesty you're making it out to be.

My point is that he found his way as a pro with the Jets org... played multiple years under the watchful eyes of this org yet we waived him over those other guys who are nothing special. I'd rather have Eyssimont on this team than those other guys. We gave up a guy why MAY have not lived up to a bottom-6 spot in favor of guys we KNOW wouldn't live up to the spot (Kuhlman and even Saku to some extent).

Many here watched Mikey on the Moose and on the Jets and had great things to say about him esp his physicality and pestulence, I have yet to see a single poster here excited about Kuhlman. There are ifs and buts with Mikey but we knew what Kuhlman was when we chose to hang on to him over Mikey... that saying about playing players who we *know* are bad instead of players who *might* be bad.

 

[KingBogo]

So you think the driving point in that post was where he started his career?
I can't blame you too much for jumping on it since 2 others followed right behind you -
It really doesn't matter - the point is, he is likely more effective than some of the guys we hauled into the lineup.

I think people make too much on waiver wire pickups and waiver wire losses. These guys are all approximately the same level. In some situations they do well and in others the struggle. There are literally 100’s of players across the league in this group. I’m glad the CBA has a mechanism that allows them to pursue HHL careers rather than be buried in farm systems. In Mikey’s case he had been up and down several times in his career and landed on a noncontender where he had more opportunity. Good for him.

 

[LowLefty]

"Yet we for some reason waived our homegrown young player who is physical and tenacious to keep cast offs of other teams."

if you don't see how calling saying essy was a homegrown talent that we got rid of for cast offs when in fact essy was a cast off from the kings is wrong then idk what to tell you...

he could have said we should have kept essy over the other bottom six options but he tried to make it seem a lot worse then it was

could essy be better then what we have? maybe.. would he put up the same numbers he has with the sharks? doubtful from who he would be playing with and the minutes he would be getting..

bottom line is acting like we drafted developed him for years(homegrown) and got rid of him as soon as he was ready is just disingenuous

The point made in the post was just as impactful with or without that error - but the focus is on the error - no surprise.

 

[gojetsgo]

My point is that he found his way as a pro with the Jets org... played multiple years under the watchful eyes of this org yet we waived him over those other guys who are nothing special. I'd rather have Eyssimont on this team than those other guys. We gave up a guy why MAY have not lived up to a bottom-6 spot in favor of guys we KNOW wouldn't live up to the spot (Kuhlman and even Saku to some extent).

There are ifs and buts with Mikey but we knew what Kuhlman was when we chose to hang on to him over Mikey... that saying about playing players who we *know* are bad instead of players who *might* be bad.

even if we kept him over the others, we would still be praying for bottom six scoring

The point made in the post was just as impactful with or without that error - but the focus is on the error - no surprise.

not really, you can say he was impactful but he really didn't do much after a few games and was invisible at times...
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really wish we could get actual bottom sixers so we don't have to argue about which waiver guy would be the best... *hint* it's none of them!

 

[John Agar]

Some ones on page 1, but they disappeared.

Its never about what page you are on...

Or if you disappeared...

Does anyone care... ?

Some never do...

And that's the difference in the end...

 

[KingBogo]

My point is that he found his way as a pro with the Jets org... played multiple years under the watchful eyes of this org yet we waived him over those other guys who are nothing special. I'd rather have Eyssimont on this team than those other guys. We gave up a guy why MAY have not lived up to a bottom-6 spot in favor of guys we KNOW wouldn't live up to the spot (Kuhlman and even Saku to some extent).

There are ifs and buts with Mikey but we knew what Kuhlman was when we chose to hang on to him over Mikey... that saying about playing players who we *know* are bad instead of players who *might* be bad.

But that’s true for every player. They found their way to the Jets. No different than any other player. In all honesty Axel and Stenlund feel more like Jets than Mikey ever did.