Is Rick Rypien, pound-for-pound, the best fighter in the NHL?

[Flapjack*]

I'm sorry, mealman, but that's just blatantly and thoroughly wrong. All you have to do is watch the fight.

Anybody can make up a story about what happened and post it over and over again. I could just follow all of your "landed 6 punches" posts with a post saying that "Rypien knocked him out cold."

I'm not going to that though, because making up **** about a fight is stupid, so cut it out.

But defending the fact Rypien got beat down by Eager is stupid, also, so cut it out.

 

[The Overseer*]

But defending the fact Rypien got beat down by Eager is stupid, also, so cut it out.

What could you possibly mean? Rypien knocked Eager out cold.

 

[Flapjack*]

What could you possibly mean? Rypien knocked Eager out cold.

Sure he did, Rypien used his head and gave Eagers hands a massage to the point he fell asleep from boredom considering it was so easy beating him.

I hear ya.

 

[BoHorvatFan]

Who cares that he had a draw with Eager. He put a beat down on Cam Janssen and that guy is legit.

 

[frag2]

I really want to see how Rypien fares against notably bigger fighters like Boogard/Laraque.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

I really want to see how Rypien fares against notably bigger fighters like Boogard/Laraque.

All they have to do to win is grab on and toss him around like an empty shirt, but it wouldn't make for a great fight. If they keep a distance Rypien has a chance with his quick hands. If they choose to simply grab on with one hand and punch with the other, then Rypien has a chance then too. I think that's what happened with that big freak a few weeks ago. Anyone, no matter how big, is taking a chance by just tossing punches at Rypien but not controlling his body.

 

[DFAC]

Yes.

 

[Ogopogo*]

After getting beat down twice in one game by Brandon Prust a week or so back, I don't think you can say that at all.

 

[The Overseer*]

After getting beat down twice in one game by Brandon Prust a week or so back, I don't think you can say that at all.

Aren't you staff? Why would you be trolling this thread?

Draw on the first one, but Rypien clearly won the second fight.

 

[The Bob Cole]

Six punches landed, with one knocking Rypiens helmet clean off.

The closeup on Rypiens face after confirms his beatdown.

3 punches from Eager were to the face, the rest went over the top on Rypien's helmet.

The fact that Rypien gives up 3 inches and close to 60 lbs. in that fight still will make him hold onto the title of best P4P in the league.

 

[moog35]

After getting beat down twice in one game by Brandon Prust a week or so back, I don't think you can say that at all.

those two fights were beatdowns? they looked like draws or a narrow win Prust in the first and a narrow win Rypien in the second

the only beatdown in the Rypien vs Prust series is this one

 

[JerkChicken]

After getting beat down twice in one game by Brandon Prust a week or so back, I don't think you can say that at all.

Wow...just WOW.

Rypien won the 2nd fight...and the first one was either a draw or slight edge to Prust at best.

How exactly do those = 'getting beat down twice'?

Great recap

I suggest you go take up curling, because obviously hockey "isn't your thing"

 

[Elvis Presley]

rypien vs orr would be interesting

 

[Brew]

But defending the fact Rypien got beat down by Eager is stupid, also, so cut it out.

what about Prust...

those 2 are easily as equal if not, Prust is a better fighter


I'd give it to Prust any day.

 

[Flapjack*]

what about Prust...

those 2 are easily as equal if not, Prust is a better fighter


I'd give it to Prust any day.

I would give the edge to Prust also, but thats just my opinion.

I think Prust would detroy Eager, btw.

 

[Canucks5551]

what about Prust...

those 2 are easily as equal if not, Prust is a better fighter


I'd give it to Prust any day.

Prust's one victory against Rypien (and a slim one at that) doesn't change the fact that Rypien has beat him 3/4 times they've faced each other.

 

[FruityPants3*]

Six punches landed, with one knocking Rypiens helmet clean off.

The closeup on Rypiens face after confirms his beatdown.

Yeah, because they landed on the helmet.

Cecil Peoples, welcome to the forum.

 

[Thucydides]

Prust beat Rypien once. Canuck fans will call it "narrowly beating Rypien" but the fact is, is that Prust beat him once. It wasn't a draw, Prust won. Done and done.

But, Rypien did beat him 3/4 times. In those fights Rypien CLEARLY won.

Rypien probably is the best p4p fighter in the league. He's a treat to watch, and I love how he uses his boxing skills in his fights. Probably the most skilled fighter in the league.

The only reason Prust beat him that one time, is because he is now catching on to how Rypien fights.

I'm surprised Stortini hasn't yet. But then again.....

Rypien is not going to fight the Boogaard's or the Scott's from the Wild, he's simply too small. All they would have to do is use reach and throw. I don't think it would be pretty. Both Boogaard and Scott are better fighters than Valabik.

 

[StanJonathan*]

yes p4p he's the best the only guy that came close in ryppers weight class was Brandon Brooks an ahl fight you can see on youtube

 

[HellsBells]

Prust's one victory against Rypien (and a slim one at that) doesn't change the fact that Rypien has beat him 3/4 times they've faced each other.

Prust's victory was no more slim than Rypien's victory later on in the same game.

Anyway, how can you possibly use fights from last year as proof that Rypien is the better fighter NOW? That's like using stats from previous years to prove who the better player is now. It doesn't work that way.

Prust is CLEARLY a much better fighter than he was last year, therefore those first two fights mean nothing when it comes to who the better fighter is NOW.

They're pretty even in my books and at least Prust isn't into the show-boating stuff either.

 

[FruityPants3*]

Prust's victory was no more slim than Rypien's victory later on in the same game.

Anyway, how can you possibly use fights from last year as proof that Rypien is the better fighter NOW? That's like using stats from previous years to prove who the better player is now. It doesn't work that way.

Prust is CLEARLY a much better fighter than he was last year, therefore those first two fights mean nothing when it comes to who the better fighter is NOW.

They're pretty even in my books and at least Prust isn't into the show-boating stuff either.

So if fighter A is 30-0, and another fighter B is 0-30, and they go at it, and fighter B wins, you would conclude the fighter B is the better fighter, currently? Further, if they fought 10 times, and fighter A won 9, but fighter B won the most recent, you'd conflude he is the better fighter? Precedent doesn't mean anything?

By your argument, since Alex Burrows is tied for 11th in goal scoring, you would conclude he is a better scorer today than Kane, Parise, J Carter, Malkin, Toews, Lecavalier? Do you agree with that assessment?

Prust has improved, but one victory does not make him equal, or close to it. You have no way of knowing if it was just an off night for Rypien. That's why you use a sample size.

 

[moog35]

Prust's victory was no more slim than Rypien's victory later on in the same game.

Anyway, how can you possibly use fights from last year as proof that Rypien is the better fighter NOW? That's like using stats from previous years to prove who the better player is now. It doesn't work that way.

Prust is CLEARLY a much better fighter than he was last year, therefore those first two fights mean nothing when it comes to who the better fighter is NOW.

They're pretty even in my books and at least Prust isn't into the show-boating stuff either.

Rypien never show-boats after fights, other than his last fight vs Prust. Prust is a better fighter than he was last year but its still important to consider their previous fights. After the first Rypien beatdown Prust has faught alot better vs Rypien because he knows what to expect and approches the fight differently (ex no square-off in the previous 3). In my opinion Rypien is the better fighter, but Prust is having a good season and seems to be improving and gaining a ton of confidence, evidence by grappling less in his recent fights, and is one of the top pound for pound fighters in the league.

 

[Canucks5551]

Prust's victory was no more slim than Rypien's victory later on in the same game.

Anyway, how can you possibly use fights from last year as proof that Rypien is the better fighter NOW? That's like using stats from previous years to prove who the better player is now. It doesn't work that way.

Prust is CLEARLY a much better fighter than he was last year, therefore those first two fights mean nothing when it comes to who the better fighter is NOW.

They're pretty even in my books and at least Prust isn't into the show-boating stuff either.

Fine we take out last year's fight and Rypien is still 2-1 against Prust with one of those bouts being a decisive victory for Rypien. That doesn't exactly make your point much stronger. Also, how does Rypien showboat? I'm kind of questioning whether or not you've even really watched Rypien fight.

 

[El Duderino]

Yeah, because they landed on the helmet.

Cecil Peoples, welcome to the forum.

I actually spat my drink out, I've never done that because of something I read!

 

[rhetoric]

In regards to Rypien vs Prust...it's not even much of a debate.

The 2 recent fights were both pretty even matched, which is why this comparason is even being discussed.

According to hockeyfights.com Rypien is 9-2 this year, while Prust is 7-4-6

But the fact that Rypien has won 3 of 4 fights vs Prust overall...and 2 of 3 this year (one of which was completely one-sided)...AND the fact that Prust is listed 25lbs heavier than Rypien should put this debate to bed.

Not 100% certain that Rypien is the best P4P fighter in the league (he probably is), but he is certainly a better P4P fighter than Prust.