Interim Jets coach Dave Lowry (December 2021, not now)

BoneDocUK

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Listening to Lowry talk about playing the right way, minnimum standards, and accountability with regards to Svech just rings hollow on me. Saying everyone needs to meet them is pretty comical given we've seen clear instances of our leaders not meet them for long stretches of time. They were given a ridiculous amount of leash to find their games.

I also am sick of the notion our bottom 6 seemingly needs to play a non skill chip and chase game. We need a complete philosophical overhaul in that department this offseason.

Agree. This is the clearest carry-over from the Mo years, I think. Makes no sense to me in the context of the modern game.
 

BoneDocUK

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and beaulieu over both stanley and heinola. heinola has been improving and playing to good apparently.

Yes. Kid needs to be put in his place, especially against those 'heavy" Central teams that we know Beaulieu plays so well against.

They could waive Nate the Not-so-great today, and have space for a 23-man roster -- but beloved in the room, so...
 

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Yes. Kid needs to be put in his place, especially against those 'heavy" Central teams that we know Beaulieu plays so well against.

They could waive Nate the Not-so-great today, and have space for a 23-man roster -- but beloved in the room, so...
gotta up that trade value :sarcasm:
 

None

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and beaulieu over both stanley and heinola. heinola has been improving and playing to good apparently.

Yeah, Heinola getting the raw end of the deal is well documented and derided plenty enough already so I won't continue beating the horse. He should without a doubt be in the lineup over Stanley and Beaulieu.

I really don't get why Beaulieu is still getting into the lineup. His value at the deadline is probably going to be a 5th to 7th round pick anyway.

Stanley on the other hand at least brings shot generation in the offensive zone when he gets there. He doesn't get there often because honestly his transition game is pretty bad and our forwards are basically headless chickens trying to assist. I can see reasons why a team would want to develop him as much as they can and why teams probably evaluate his ceiling pretty high. He should be in the lineup over Beaulieu.

Coach is getting desperate so it's back to the vets whenever possible. We've seen this song and dance a million times and it doesn't work when the vets are shit!

I think this is all it boils down to. Desperate coaching making shit decisions.
 

Romang67

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I guess the expectation isn't for PP2 to score considering Adam Lowry is still getting time there every single game.

Sounds like my suspicion that whether a player looks like he tries hard is much more important than whether he actually accomplishes anything out there was correct. At least for the bottom 6ers.

Also explains why he's throwing out Beaulieu as if he's gonna fix anything. Say what you will about Beaulieu, but he tries hard.
 

BoneDocUK

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Nathan Beaulieu still getting into this lineup over two young, developing players, tells you all you need to know about this org at the moment.
Embarrassing, utterly embarrassing.

Lowry must sincerely, ardently believe that these are the guys he's going to win with. Default to vets and return to vets, even if they're terrible.
 
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surixon

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Sounds like my suspicion that whether a player looks like he tries hard is much more important than whether he actually accomplishes anything out there was correct. At least for the bottom 6ers.

Also explains why he's throwing out Beaulieu as if he's gonna fix anything. Say what you will about Beaulieu, but he tries hard.

Yup, this fascination with supposed visible effort over results is ridiculous. I can't believe so many coaches are so short sighted in their approach.
 

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I would buy the showcasing argument except that this is a 4 point game against a team we have to pass in the standings in order to keep our rapidly diminishing playoff hopes alive. Critique of playing Beaulieu is legit. Not a knock on Beau, knock on the coach.
 
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Romang67

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Apart from how dumb it is to send Heinola down with the explanation that he's been playing increasingly well in the NHL, and we want him to keep playing well so they send him down to the AHL (!?), it's not exactly a good sign that, against a team that we desperately need to beat, Stanley is taken out of the lineup in favor of Beaulieu.
 

jetsv2

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f*** Dave Lowry, he is just a clone of Maurice who isn't nearly as good at his job, he is doing everything the same way Maurice did when it comes to player usage. Maurice was already not good enough so a shittier version just means more losses.
 

Ducky10

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I would buy the showcasing argument except that this is a 4 point game against a team we have to pass in the standings in order to keep our rapidly diminishing playoff hopes alive. Critique of playing Beaulieu is legit. Not a knock on Beau, knock on the coach.
Honestly, what’s left to showcase with Beaulieu? He is what he is, the league knows that.

Its pathetic he’s in the lineup.
 

BoneDocUK

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Honestly, what’s left to showcase with Beaulieu? He is what he is, the league knows that.

Its pathetic he’s in the lineup.

But he will:

- Block shots
- Put his body on the line
- Commit to the game
- Play the right way badly
- Work hard (visibly) with poor results
- Fight on behalf of someone else (that's a team player, a real warrior, Dennis!)
- Showcase his patented no-look reverse directly onto the stick of an opponent
- Not pinch
- Miss the net in unusual ways
- Hold the line and get dummied, over and over again
- Chip, dump, and chip some more
- Fall over
- Shake out his glossy locks and mutter to himself
- Tap Helle encouragingly
- Get in Helle's way
- Have the puck bounce in off his ass
- Rub Helle's helmet as if he is summoning a genie to come and save the Jets
- Be interviewed and be unintelligible
- Be praised monosyllabically by Lowry, his spiritual brother
- Play again next game

That's the Beaulieu Guarantee!
 

surixon

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But he will:

- Block shots
- Put his body on the line
- Commit to the game
- Play the right way badly
- Work hard (visibly) with poor results
- Fight on behalf of someone else (that's a team player, a real warrior, Dennis!)
- Showcase his patented no-look reverse directly onto the stick of an opponent
- Not pinch
- Miss the net in unusual ways
- Hold the line and get dummied, over and over again
- Chip, dump, and chip some more
- Fall over
- Shake out his glossy locks and mutter to himself
- Tap Helle encouragingly
- Get in Helle's way
- Have the puck bounce in off his ass
- Rub Helle's helmet as if he is summoning a genie to come and save the Jets
- Be interviewed and be unintelligible
- Be praised monosyllabically by Lowry, his spiritual brother
- Play again next game

That's the Beaulieu Guarantee!

I just don't get it with these coaches. They are paid millions but very few seem actually skilled at what they do. Most NA coaches make the same inferences in terms of top 6 are skilled and can float at times but bottom 6 most play hard and direct games. It just fathoms me how little actual measurable results are considered by many if the player plays the way they want them to.
 

GNP

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I wonder how fellow posters feel about hiring a "proven" European coach. You have to think out of the box sometimes to be successful.

I like what the Finnish coaches have done to develop their young talent, and many are stars in the NHL today. They only have 5 million people, as a total population, but are very competitive with the US and Russia that have populations of around 300 million each. It says a lot.

Their team just won gold at the Olympics, and usually always finish in the top 3 or 4 countries in big tournaments. Also the cost of acquiring one of these coaches would be very affordable.

Maybe I should start a Poll on this, as I'm very much in favour of going this route. I think we should hire the Coach who just coached Finland to the gold medal at the Olympics -- comments
 
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