Interesting Info: Part XXII (Jackets-related "tidbits" here)

[JacketsDavid]

Ideal, just not very likely. Blackouts aren't going away anytime soon.

I beleive what MLB did for the SD Padres (who they took over for Ballys) was charged them an additional monthly fee to get the Padres games. So something like $15/month for all the games and if you're within SD viewing area you had option of paying another $10/month for those.

I hate MLB blackouts. Here in Columbus we can't get the Pirates (Pittsburgh) games. Just makes zero sense.

 

[CBJx614]

Blackouts protect the local/market broadcast rights holders. What if there isn't one?

I hope so, if the MLB does it, I'll have hope. The NHL seems to want to do the same so we'll see.

Can I watch my favorite team? Is this the end of blackouts? What RSN mess means for MLB

Why Diamond Sports Group declaring bankruptcy could have a major impact on Major League Baseball and the future of sports on TV.

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[Iron Balls McGinty]

I beleive what MLB did for the SD Padres (who they took over for Ballys) was charged them an additional monthly fee to get the Padres games. So something like $15/month for all the games and if you're within SD viewing area you had option of paying another $10/month for those.

I hate MLB blackouts. Here in Columbus we can't get the Pirates (Pittsburgh) games. Just makes zero sense.

I think people in Pittsburgh wish they were blacked out from Pirates games.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Used to be the technology to deliver a broadcast was such that a league or team required a partner whose function it was to do that. Find a broadcaster, partner with them to deliver your games to an audience, everyone makes money.

Tech is such now that leagues - and perhaps even teams - should be, or at least could be, delivering broadcasts themselves. Time to eliminate the middle man. It will feature a little bit of investment up front, but some of that investment will be in hiring people to sell advertising.

 

[majormajor]

Used to be the technology to deliver a broadcast was such that a league or team required a partner whose function it was to do that. Find a broadcaster, partner with them to deliver your games to an audience, everyone makes money.

Tech is such now that leagues - and perhaps even teams - should be, or at least could be, delivering broadcasts themselves. Time to eliminate the middle man. It will feature a little bit of investment up front, but some of that investment will be in hiring people to sell advertising.

I'd like to see proof of concept in the AHL. Those broadcasts look like 1991 technology.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I'd like to see proof of concept in the AHL. Those broadcasts look like 1991 technology.

Understand the concern. The problem is the revenue availability at the AHL level to invest in the best tech.

 

[5th Line Fanatic]

Used to be the technology to deliver a broadcast was such that a league or team required a partner whose function it was to do that. Find a broadcaster, partner with them to deliver your games to an audience, everyone makes money.

Tech is such now that leagues - and perhaps even teams - should be, or at least could be, delivering broadcasts themselves. Time to eliminate the middle man. It will feature a little bit of investment up front, but some of that investment will be in hiring people to sell advertising.

Unfortunately, it's going to be MUCH more expensive for the average sports fan to access the games than they are used to. Sports fans have been subsidized by non-sports fans for years through cable packages. The middle man in this case spread the costs out to everyone. It's going to be very challenging for the leagues, teams, and fans going forward to find the right solution.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Unfortunately, it's going to be MUCH more expensive for the average sports fan to access the games than they are used to. Sports fans have been subsidized by non-sports fans for years through cable packages. The middle man in this case spread the costs out to everyone. It's going to be very challenging for the leagues, teams, and fans going forward to find the right solution.

It will be challenging but by the same token the Blue Jackets fan has been purchasing more than just CBJ content with their subscriptions.

 

[DougKnowsBest]

I’d like to subscribe to the nhl and be able to see all the games and other nhl programming.

Seems simple

 

[5th Line Fanatic]

It will be challenging but by the same token the Blue Jackets fan has been purchasing more than just CBJ content with their subscriptions.

True, but they are not going to cancel whatever else they subscribe to and only subscribe to the CBJ option.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

True, but they are not going to cancel whatever else they subscribe to and only subscribe to the CBJ option.

Maybe.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Unfortunately, it's going to be MUCH more expensive for the average sports fan to access the games than they are used to. Sports fans have been subsidized by non-sports fans for years through cable packages. The middle man in this case spread the costs out to everyone. It's going to be very challenging for the leagues, teams, and fans going forward to find the right solution.

Hard to say that as a blanket statement. the NHL partnered with ESPN and now I don't have to pay for Center Ice as a standalone. Adding local teams by removing blackout restrictions should simply be easy.

MLS moved to Apple TV and because I have a T mobile cell phone I get it for free. I also get access to the MLB.tv for free because of T Mobile.

In those cases, advertisers and league sponsors step up to foot the bill

 

[koteka]

Maybe.

We are about to cancel a couple of services. Disney is jacking up rates in October, so bye bye Disney. My wife is on a week free trial on another service that has a discount for the first year. I am not sure we would keep it past the free trial and I know we won’t keep it for more than a year. Streaming is pretty cool for the first month, but I don’t know that you need to have more than one service at a time. (I am the kind of person who would rather binge watch 4 seasons than be up to date with every show.)

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

We are about to cancel a couple of services. Disney is jacking up rates in October, so bye bye Disney. My wife is on a week free trial on another service that has a discount for the first year. I am not sure we would keep it past the free trial and I know we won’t keep it for more than a year. Streaming is pretty cool for the first month, but I don’t know that you need to have more than one service at a time. (I am the kind of person who would rather binge watch 4 seasons than be up to date with every show.)

I think this supports my contention? I've always felt that as consumers are given more alacarte viewing/streaming/subscription options, they'll opt out (not everyone but...) of catch-all services and into more targeted content.

I confess this could be one of those instances where I'm just conflating my own personal stance with the broader public, which almost always proves to be a mistake. But we never had cable or a dish. We went straight from over-the-air/antenna to a fire stick.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Regarding what MLB is doing for Padres as a reference - again the $74.99 is roughly half the season so would be double that (or so) for full season:

MLB.TV Single Team Padres Subscription
Price: $19.99 per month or $74.99 for the rest of the season.
With this subscription, you can watch all 2023 regular season Padres games, both live and on-demand.
Enjoy the convenience of streaming games directly to your device without any blackouts.
Available for purchase on the MLB.TV website.

Free Streaming Opportunities
Stream Padres games for free through Sunday, June 4 on MLB.TV.
Take advantage of a free seven-day MLB.TV trial to experience the streaming service.

Another option for cordcutters looking to stream local Padres games in 2023 without cable is fuboTV.

fuboTV is currently offering a free 7-day trial.

Streaming Padres games on the MLB App​

The technology is there and the games are being broadcast on the MLB.TV app without cable… but Padres games will be blacked out for the local market. Update: With this new streaming option, MLB is able to lift the blackout for Padres games that were previously distributed on Bally Sports San Diego. However, please be aware that certain regular season, special event, and postseason games may still be subject to blackout restrictions due to Major League Baseball’s national exclusivities.

 

[Doggy]

Regarding what MLB is doing for Padres as a reference - again the $74.99 is roughly half the season so would be double that (or so) for full season:

MLB.TV Single Team Padres Subscription
Price: $19.99 per month or $74.99 for the rest of the season.
With this subscription, you can watch all 2023 regular season Padres games, both live and on-demand.
Enjoy the convenience of streaming games directly to your device without any blackouts.
Available for purchase on the MLB.TV website.

Free Streaming Opportunities
Stream Padres games for free through Sunday, June 4 on MLB.TV.
Take advantage of a free seven-day MLB.TV trial to experience the streaming service.

Another option for cordcutters looking to stream local Padres games in 2023 without cable is fuboTV.

fuboTV is currently offering a free 7-day trial.

Streaming Padres games on the MLB App​

The technology is there and the games are being broadcast on the MLB.TV app without cable… but Padres games will be blacked out for the local market. Update: With this new streaming option, MLB is able to lift the blackout for Padres games that were previously distributed on Bally Sports San Diego. However, please be aware that certain regular season, special event, and postseason games may still be subject to blackout restrictions due to Major League Baseball’s national exclusivities.

Fubo is a great platform, their user interface blows YouTubeTV and Hulu out of the water. But...earlier this year they picked up Bally Sports Ohio (required...not an option) and jacked my rate $20/month. Since I don't watch anything on Bally Sports I am no longer a Fubo subscriber.

 

[DougKnowsBest]

personally speaking at this point I only watch youtube and illegal hockey streams.

i could cancle hulu, netflix, and dinsney+ right now...... but the kids and wife all have a different primary service they watch


I run tests by canceling one and seeing if anyone says something about something not working

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[cbjthrowaway]

not sure if this fits better her or in the prospects thread (putting it here since it includes roster players), but pronman's u23 system rankings are being published this week. they've posted #32 through #9, and CBJ hasn't been posted yet. will be interesting to see where they end up being.

of note: boqvist, marchenko, texier and foudy (all 23) are too old for consideration.

 

[Doggy]

not sure if this fits better her or in the prospects thread (putting it here since it includes roster players), but pronman's u23 system rankings are being published this week. they've posted #32 through #9, and CBJ hasn't been posted yet. will be interesting to see where they end up being.

of note: boqvist, marchenko, texier and foudy (all 23) are too old for consideration.

It's almost definitely Top 5 and at that point you are really splitting hairs (and of course its all just a educated guess).

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

not sure if this fits better her or in the prospects thread (putting it here since it includes roster players), but pronman's u23 system rankings are being published this week. they've posted #32 through #9, and CBJ hasn't been posted yet. will be interesting to see where they end up being.

of note: boqvist, marchenko, texier and foudy (all 23) are too old for consideration.

It's almost definitely Top 5 and at that point you are really splitting hairs (and of course its all just a educated guess).

Top-2 and it ain't 2

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Top-2 and it ain't 2

i'd be surprised if they're that high but only because of established NHL guys on some of the other teams. here's who is left:

• anaheim: zegras, mctavish, carlsson, drysdale, mintyukov, zellweger, etc.
• new jersey: jack hughes, luke hughes, nemec, mercer, holtz
• ottawa: stutzle, sanderson, pinto, greig, sogaard
• detroit: raymond, seider, edvinsson, kasper, danielson, wallinder, cossa
• montreal: caufield, slafkovsky, reinbacher, dach, newhook, mesar, kidney, roy
• buffalo: power, cozens, benson, quinn, savoie, levi, krebs, kulich, ostlund
• chicago: bedard, korchinsky, reichel, then a bunch of meh
• columbus: fantilli, johnson, jiricek, sillinger, chinakhov, mateychuk, svozil, brindley, ceulemans, dumais, voronkov, del bel belluz, etc.

new jersey has the strongest top five, and anaheim is up there as well. buffalo's group is really strong. columbus probably has the second or third best top-three and the most depth overall.

if i had to guess, i think it'll shake out like this:

1. new jersey
2. anaheim
3. columbus
4. buffalo
5. detroit
6. chicago
7. montreal
8. ottawa

 

[koteka]

if i had to guess, i think it'll shake out like this:

1. new jersey
2. anaheim
3. columbus
4. buffalo
5. detroit
6. chicago
7. montreal
8. ottawa

I think that is a reasonable order. You have to wonder if Bedard makes Chicago #3 or higher on his own. But I think the Jackets will land 3-5.

 

[squashmaple]

We won't be any higher than five, and I'll be surprised if we're higher than seventh. We were twelfth last year in the same exercise.

1. New Jersey
2. Buffalo
3. Anaheim
4. Detroit
5. Montreal
6. Arizona
7. Columbus
8. Chicago

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

Including the 2019 and 2020 drafts will hurt us in this specific rankings right now, but it’s something where our ranking should get better over the next couple years after possibly great 2021, 2022, and 2023 drafts along with a mostly full slate of picks in 2024 and 2025 (only missing one 2nd but owning an extra 3rd). There are a lot of 19-21 year olds in the organization in position to have big years.