Interesting Info: Part XIV (All Jackets-related "tidbits" in here)

[Wendy Clear]

 

[Jaxs]

Tim doesn't fight as well his brother.

 

[1857 Howitzer]

“@Aportzline: Told G Joonas Korpisalo is headed to Columbus now that his season in Finland is finished. He will train, observe and learned alongside #CBJ”

 

[Columbus Mike]

Is there a source that shows how many goals are scored when a particular player is on the ice, as well as how many are conceded?

I'm wondering about Corey Tropp. He's +12 on the year, with 2 goals and 8 assists. Just based on that, I can't believe he's been on the ice for many goals against. Math nerd wondering.

 

[bizzz*]

Is there a source that shows how many goals are scored when a particular player is on the ice, as well as how many are conceded?

I'm wondering about Corey Tropp. He's +12 on the year, with 2 goals and 8 assists. Just based on that, I can't believe he's been on the ice for many goals against. Math nerd wondering.

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stat...=CBJ&f7=10-&c=0+1+3+5+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28

He was on the ice for 20 goals for and 16 goals against. He's +12 as a Jacket and had 1 assist in Buffalo, so at least 9 of those 16 goals against were scored when he played for the Sabres.

Also another interesting fact. Skille leads the NHL in goals per 60 minutes of ice time and Joey is 8th in the NHL (for players with at least 10 games played):
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stat...1=2013_s&f2=5v5&f7=10-&c=0+1+3+5+17+18+19+20#

 

[TaketheCannoli]

So the CBJ fans dont deserve to see their team in the playoffs??
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Brad...ffs-or-Bust-A-Players-Perspecti8230/197/58650


He probably thinks we're a "sunbelt" team too

Maybe he says that because of the 4000 fans or so who dress up as empty seats for almost every home game?

Many Canadian fans resent that American cities have teams and cannot sell the arenas out. As much as core hockey fans in any market love both their team and hockey, we are much smaller in number than in Canadian markets.

 

[Bobcat110]

Many Canadian fans resent that American cities have teams and cannot sell the arenas out. As much as core hockey fans in any market love both their team and hockey, we are much smaller in number than in Canadian markets.

Yeah...but what else are you going to spend your entertainment Canadian dollar on in Canada? We have College Football, College Basketball, NFL, NBA, and MLB that compete for fans. As a result, Americans are more fickle. Wins = Butts in Seats

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Yeah...but what else are you going to spend your entertainment Canadian dollar on in Canada? We have College Football, College Basketball, NFL, NBA, and MLB that compete for fans. As a result, Americans are more fickle. Wins = Butts in Seats

I agree most of us know that. I do understand how they feel though. Imagine how we would feel if they moved the CBJ away and placed them somewhere where they couldn't draw?

 

[Mayor Bee]

I agree most of us know that. I do understand how they feel though. Imagine how we would feel if they moved the CBJ away and placed them somewhere where they couldn't draw?

Consider the NHL teams that have had anything resembling attendance issues. None of them have any history of success, which jaded the local populace and created a huge uphill battle.

Dallas is an exception from a success standpoint; they're also an exception in having had an extremely unstable ownership situation that's only recently been alleviated. Phoenix is the same boat.

Outside of that...what has Florida had to root for recently? How about us? What did Atlanta have? We're supposed to have Toronto sneering down their noses at us for not showing up to watch largely-mediocre hockey for the last 14 years, yet those are the same people who can't be bothered to show up to watch the Blue Jays or Raptors. The Blue Jays added a ton of talent before last year, and the fans showed up long enough to push the team up to 20th in attendance. Before that, it was 27th, 30th, 30th, 29th, 22nd, 22nd, 23rd, 27th, 28th, 26th, 26th, 23rd...(that takes us back to 2001)

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Consider the NHL teams that have had anything resembling attendance issues. None of them have any history of success, which jaded the local populace and created a huge uphill battle.

Dallas is an exception from a success standpoint; they're also an exception in having had an extremely unstable ownership situation that's only recently been alleviated. Phoenix is the same boat.

Outside of that...what has Florida had to root for recently? How about us? What did Atlanta have? We're supposed to have Toronto sneering down their noses at us for not showing up to watch largely-mediocre hockey for the last 14 years, yet those are the same people who can't be bothered to show up to watch the Blue Jays or Raptors. The Blue Jays added a ton of talent before last year, and the fans showed up long enough to push the team up to 20th in attendance. Before that, it was 27th, 30th, 30th, 29th, 22nd, 22nd, 23rd, 27th, 28th, 26th, 26th, 23rd...(that takes us back to 2001)

Most Leaf fans were born after their last Stanley Cup, yet their tickets are tough to get. Vancouver's success rate is comparable to St. Louis's or perhaps Anaheim.


I realize you are a baseball fan, and I once was one as well. From what I have observed, baseball in Canada is not widely followed, much like hockey in the US. The NHL in Canada is most like the NFL in the US in terms of popularity. I am well aware you already know this.

The Browns, the Lions and the Bengals enjoy success at the gate despite their long history of failure. If the NFL put teams in Toronto, Vancouver and Mexico City and we saw lots of empty seats, there are plenty of Americans that would have a lot to say about it. Especially in places like LA and dare I say it....Columbus!

I am suggesting we all try to understand their point of view. I truly understand why the Jackets have had challenges filling the arena since the 2005 lockout. I myself went from a day 1 full STH t through 2010-11 to someone who buys seats to about 10 games per year. Once they lost me as a STH, I realized I am really happy with about 1/4 of the home games and thrilled I'm not paying $160 per game for two tickets to four crappy pre-season games.

We need to face it. The 2000-1 jackets had a rare opportunity. They had Columbus in the palm of their hand. They were selling out most games and were profitable. Unfortunately, as we all know the organization over promised and under delivered. After the lockout of 2005, the fan base began to erode. While the 2008-9 playoff team brought back some fans, iirc they sold some 1500 additional season tickets in 2010, the deep futility of the team from 2010-12 did a huge amount of damage in the community. It will take more than 1.5 competitive seasons to win the town back again.

I think places like Toronto, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Edmonton etc. would still be close to selling out if their NHL team was as futile as ours. Much like those aforementioned NFL teams.

 

[Viqsi]

Most Leaf fans were born after their last Stanley Cup, yet their tickets are tough to get. Vancouver's success rate is comparable to St. Louis's or perhaps Anaheim.


I realize you are a baseball fan, and I once was one as well. From what I have observed, baseball in Canada is not widely followed, much like hockey in the US. The NHL in Canada is most like the NFL in the US in terms of popularity. I am well aware you already know this.

The Browns, the Lions and the Bengals enjoy success at the gate despite their long history of failure. If the NFL put teams in Toronto, Vancouver and Mexico City and we saw lots of empty seats, there are plenty of Americans that would have a lot to say about it. Especially in places like LA and dare I say it....Columbus!

I am suggesting we all try to understand their point of view. I truly understand why the Jackets have had challenges filling the arena since the 2005 lockout. I myself went from a day 1 full STH t through 2010-11 to someone who buys seats to about 10 games per year. Once they lost me as a STH, I realized I am really happy with about 1/4 of the home games and thrilled I'm not paying $160 per game for two tickets to four crappy pre-season games.

We need to face it. The 2000-1 jackets had a rare opportunity. They had Columbus in the palm of their hand. They were selling out most games and were profitable. Unfortunately, as we all know the organization over promised and under delivered. After the lockout of 2005, the fan base began to erode. While the 2008-9 playoff team brought back some fans, iirc they sold some 1500 additional season tickets in 2010, the deep futility of the team from 2010-12 did a huge amount of damage in the community. It will take more than 1.5 competitive seasons to win the town back again.

I think places like Toronto, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Edmonton etc. would still be close to selling out if their NHL team was as futile as ours. Much like those aforementioned NFL teams.

Those teams all have multiple generations' worth of tradition - yes, even Winnipeg, if you count the original Jets - and three of them have winning legacies (Edmonton is obvious, Toronto is well known, Winnipeg was in the WHA). And two of them (Winnipeg and Vancouver) have had similar massive drops in attendance in the past due to General Team Suckage; Winnipeg lost their first team as a combined result of that and the weak Canadian dollar.

Seriously, you're parroting old relocationist arguments that have been overdone to death here in the name of rationalizing an inferiority complex. It's unbecoming.

 

[kmak]

John Buccigross' list of cup contenders:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/p...-john-buccigross-gives-stanley-cup-contenders

Interesting he says we need everything to break our way. CBJ have been the second best team in the East since Jan 1.

 

[EspenK]

Interesting he says we need everything to break our way. CBJ have been the second best team in the East since Jan 1.

Somewhere, maybe higher up in this thread it was mentioned that the Jackets record against the top teams was 1-11-1(I think maybe 2 OT losses) and then we then lost to San Jose. Add in a pretty bad goals allowed average, playoff and general inexperience and imo a spotty offense, that about sums it up. If a couple of upsets happen and we can avoid Boston & Pittsburgh we have a shot at making the finals but whoever comes out of the West will be a very good team, again barring 3 rounds of upsets. And all of that is contingent on us hanging on to a playoff spot.

 

[Viqsi]

Somewhere, maybe higher up in this thread it was mentioned that the Jackets record against the top teams was 1-11-1(I think maybe 2 OT losses) and then we then lost to San Jose. Add in a pretty bad goals allowed average, playoff and general inexperience and imo a spotty offense, that about sums it up. If a couple of upsets happen and we can avoid Boston & Pittsburgh we have a shot at making the finals but whoever comes out of the West will be a very good team, again barring 3 rounds of upsets. And all of that is contingent on us hanging on to a playoff spot.

We're actually just slightly below the NHL average for number goals allowed per game, last I checked. That said, the "top teams" record is a tad troubling.

 

[Nanabijou]

Somewhere, maybe higher up in this thread it was mentioned that the Jackets record against the top teams was 1-11-1(I think maybe 2 OT losses) and then we then lost to San Jose. Add in a pretty bad goals allowed average, playoff and general inexperience and imo a spotty offense, that about sums it up. If a couple of upsets happen and we can avoid Boston & Pittsburgh we have a shot at making the finals but whoever comes out of the West will be a very good team, again barring 3 rounds of upsets. And all of that is contingent on us hanging on to a playoff spot.

If the Jackets can keep playing the way they are, I like our chances of getting the 2nd or 3rd seed in the Metro (preferably the former).

If that happens, I think we match up well with the opponent, whether its the Rangers, Flyers, Caps or Devils.

Could we win the cup? Sure, it's possible. But I'm excited at our chances of not only making the playoffs but having a real shot at getting through the first round and that would be a huge leap forward for this franchise.

 

[EspenK]

We're actually just slightly below the NHL average for number goals allowed per game, last I checked. That said, the "top teams" record is a tad troubling.

Average ain't gonna cut it in the playoffs. Check out ga's especially in the West. Granted with the exception of Boston the East is a bit less defensive minded.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Bob is NHL.com's first star of the week.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=709882&navid=nhl:topheads

 

[pete goegan]

Bob is NHL.com's first star of the week.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=709882&navid=nhl:topheads

Yay, Bob!

 

[bizzz*]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=27269&navid=DL|NHL|home

A few nice words from Barry Melrose:

I don't think Ohio as a state gets the respect it should.

 

[joshjoshjosh]

Bob is NHL.com's first star of the week.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=709882&navid=nhl:topheads

 

[fox2usp]

This has been bugging me all season. Does anybody else see this or is it just me?

David the Kid?

 

[major major]

This has been bugging me all season. Does anybody else see this or is it just me?

David the Kid?

Yup. He also looks suspiciously like a beaver.

 

[Robert]

This has been bugging me all season. Does anybody else see this or is it just me?

David the Kid?

Just you... its close...

I study the American Civil War and I think I've seen this picture before...

 

[pete goegan]

Just you... its close...

I study the American Civil War and I think I've seen this picture before...

It's Billy the Kid, Robert.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

It's Billy the Kid, Robert.

No, no, just hold on. It'll come to me.