Rumor: In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) LIV

bohlmeister · Mar 4, 2014

Tigervixxen said:
Stastny insists he hasn't talked to his agent, that his agent knows what he wants. It sounds like Stastny wants to stay and from Roy's quotes he's not going to move him unless its a great deal. Haven't we been saying this for months?

Dater was just bringing it up so he could get hits. I said that when this first came out. By the comments Roy and Stastny both made, it sounded like they had an agreement, as well as ROR, that they would let this season play out and make decisions based off of it. The players wanted to make sure that the team was heading in the right direction.

I think that is why Stastny looked confused and annoyed when this initially started to come out.

Gobo · Mar 4, 2014

What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

My best guess is that Stastny has told Keator that there is a minimum that he is willing to accept to stay, and that Keator is trying to maximize what Stastny is getting.

bohlmeister · Mar 4, 2014

Gobo said:
What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

Business side. There is a ton of stuff that a GM has to take care of to make a hockey team run properly. Sakic and Roy won't know or have the time to tend to it. That is where Sherman comes in.

Foppa2118 · Mar 4, 2014

Avs44 said:
"Everybody knows how the business works," Stastny said. "You can obviously go somewhere and get more money somewhere else. But if you have something good and you want to stick with it, that hometown discount is obviously something that everyone's aware of and is important to do. You want both sides to be happy. You don't want to (mistreat) the team and you want the team to be put in a good situation where they can kind of compete down the road as well."

Get him signed!

This to me screams no more than Dutchy's $6M. Especially the last part. I don't see him saying all of that, if they're asking for more money than the teams best player.

Avs_19 · Mar 4, 2014

If they have an agreement to wait it out until after the season, I wonder why they've been negotiating and why Stastny's agent is expected to speak with the Avs later today. Would be kind of pointless, no?

The Kingslayer · Mar 4, 2014

Gobo said:
What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

Cheerleader. Shermans got the greatest job of all time. Sit around playing candy crush while everyone works and collect a 6 figure income. I want my kids to grow up not to be lawyers or doctors. I want my kids to grow up to be Greg Sherman

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

Avs_19 said:
If they have an agreement to wait it out until after the season, I wonder why they've been negotiating and why Stastny's agent is expected to speak with the Avs later today. Would be kind of pointless, no?

Maybe they didn't have a full season agreement? Maybe management asked them to reconsider?

Bender · Mar 4, 2014

Gobo said:
What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

In before "coffee".

The same as its always been...he was only GM in title.

He likely handles the cap and contract specific stuff...no decisions on player personnel, I think that much has been made pretty clear despite what a handful of people on here used to think.

Cousin Eddie · Mar 4, 2014

Bender said:
In before "coffee".

The same as its always been...he was only GM in title.

He had actual GM duties last year. Now Roy and Sakic are in complete control of trades.

As for Stastny. If he get's re-signed I think he gets the very same cap hit he currently has which imo is taking a hometown discount.

AvsWraith · Mar 4, 2014

Adrian Dater ‏@adater 1m

Stastny agent and Avs expected to talk later today. Situation still fluid, anything might still happen

Since Staz is supposedly down with the hometown discount, I don't see why this deal isn't done yet. Let's get it done and settled... today.

Freudian · Mar 4, 2014

Gobo said:
What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

He's basically the assistant GM. Dealing with the NHL, doing cap/contracts/roster things.

member 116861 · Mar 4, 2014

I wonder what exactly a hometown discount is for him. Either way, I'm really glad to hear this news.

Avs44 · Mar 4, 2014

Gobo said:
What exactly is Greg Sherman's role at this point?

Holding the best job in the world? Minimal responsibilities, full pay, front row seat to the Avs.

Bender · Mar 4, 2014

kento19 said:
He had actual GM duties last year. Now Roy and Sakic are in complete control of trades.

As for Stastny. If he get's re-signed I think he gets the very same cap hit he currently has which imo is taking a hometown discount.

Uh-huh...

I don't believe for 1 second that Greg Sherman's orchestrated the EJ trade or any other player decision since he took over for Francois Giguere. There has always been someone overseeing those decisions, all the while, they were training Sakic with this position in mind.

AvsWraith · Mar 4, 2014

per Dater

Avs getting lots of calls from teams. Gonna be an interesting next 24 hours on Stastny

Wow, Dater having a field day with the tweets, playing with us. This is nuts.

Colorado Avalanche · Mar 4, 2014

If Stastny wants to stay in Colorado for 6 mil, you take it.

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

Colorado Avalanche said:
If Stastny wants to stay in Colorado for 6 mil, you take it.

Absolutely you do. Worst case he loses his spot in 3 years, and the Avs have to trade a player with years on his contract and is still a very good #2C.

bohlmeister · Mar 4, 2014

henchman24 said:
Absolutely you do. Worst case he loses his spot in 3 years, and the Avs have to trade a player with years on his contract and is still a very good #2C.

That isn't the worst case. That is the best case.

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

bohlmeister said:
That isn't the worst case. That is the best case.

If he signs for $6m... that is the worst case. His play isn't going to drop off dramatically from where it is at. He is still youngish at 28... in 3 years he would only be 31. Meaning he has a lot of good years still left.

The best case is he continues to be a ~60 point shutdown center until he is in his mid 30s that is too important to the team to get rid of.

Colorado Avalanche · Mar 4, 2014

henchman24 said:
Absolutely you do. Worst case he loses his spot in 3 years, and the Avs have to trade a player with years on his contract and is still a very good #2C.

from my understanding he has history of playing in wing, so It could be solved like that as well.

madman · Mar 4, 2014

Colorado Avalanche said:
from my understanding he has history of playing in wing, so It could be solved like that as well.

I don't recall Staz ever playing wing, even at DU. Maybe at Worlds, or elsewhere internationally??

Colorado Avalanche · Mar 4, 2014

madman said:
I don't recall Staz ever playing wing, even at DU. Maybe at Worlds, or elsewhere internationally??

Oh, I thought he played at DU, I remember someone writing about it. Maybe just bad memory. Oh well, that's not gonna work then.

Ivan13 · Mar 4, 2014

madman said:
I don't recall Staz ever playing wing, even at DU. Maybe at Worlds, or elsewhere internationally??

He played LW back at DU and he was damn good at it.

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

madman said:
I don't recall Staz ever playing wing, even at DU. Maybe at Worlds, or elsewhere internationally??

DU and a bit his rookie season. It has been a while.

I never worry about a center switching to wing, most make the transition flawlessly and that transition is easier for centers with high hockey IQs... which Stastny has.

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