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Prospect Info: Igor Shestyorkin Part I

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Znarok is resting like half the lineup. Its almost better he's not playing because it likely shows he's the starter. Three of the top five defenseman aren't in the lineup with Belov, Yakovlev and Khafizullin not playing. On offense, Datsuyk, Barabanov and Plotnikov all aren't playing. Their lines and pairs are all preseason mode. A guy who's not played in months and isn't really in their normal lineup to begin with is on the top pairing with Chudinov, Gusev is on the fourth line. Having said all of that, SKA's lineup today is still better than the other team's lineup. They have so much depth. You almost have to do what Znarok's doing today for some games, otherwise some very good players just won't be playing at all.

I actually saw an interview posted with Igor this morning by the SKA website. They asked him about what he thought about playing against Lada, and he gave standard answers. Very insincere by the club to allow a pre-match interview with a player that the coach had to know he wasn't going to play in that match. The interviewer tried to bait him with a question about how playing on Lada's smaller ice surface will specifically benefit him. :laugh: He didn't take the bait.
 
Didn't start today. The Finn got a shutout. They are still resting some other players, so its not just Shestyorkin. Start worrying, if this continues beyond another game.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Didn't start today. The Finn got a shutout. They are still resting some other players, so its not just Shestyorkin. Start worrying, if this continues beyond another game.
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I still wouldn't see a reason to start worrying.

Have you seen his record and numbers? There is no reason to worry.

As you said, they're resting players. Channel 1 Cup is still recent enough.

Getting back into the groove with the team, and then put back in.

Besides, it's not awful if they do a 1A/1B thing as they get closer to playoffs. In fact, I imagine that's what they'll do.

If we go five or six games in a row of him not starting, then I'll show a bit of concern. But Shesty is not in a position that you should be worried about. He has played many many times when they could have chosen Costco instead.

1A/1B at this point, if Mikko starts playing well.
 
The Czar played a total of 34 games at all levels last season. A year before that, it was 33. One more year earlier, he played 32. He's already played 31 this year and the KHL still has 21 regular season games remaining, plus the playoffs where they're expected to make a deep run. He'll play more games this season than he's ever played since he was a child.
 
Thats in the past. If he's the back up now, thats not good. He's too good for that. I don't know how the coach will handle it, so we'll wait to find out.
 
Beacon said:
The Czar played a total of 34 games at all levels last season. A year before that, it was 33. One more year earlier, he played 32. He's already played 31 this year and the KHL still has 21 regular season games remaining, plus the playoffs where they're expected to make a deep run. He'll play more games this season than he's ever played since he was a child.
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He'll sit there for 3-4 years. SKA is a first rate organization. NHL style accommodations at all times. Big reason why Datsyuk and Kovalchuck left for there.

He'll come in back up Hank, push for time, and then split until Hank's contract runs out.

If Hank crashes and burns, which I think he may if he's overworked around 37... then it's a different story. Henrik isn't on a 35+ contract, and he's a man of honor. I'm not worried about that cap hit at all.
 
Mikos87 said:
He'll sit there for 3-4 years. SKA is a first rate organization. NHL style accommodations at all times. Big reason why Datsyuk and Kovalchuck left for there.

He'll come in back up Hank, push for time, and then split until Hank's contract runs out.

If Hank crashes and burns, which I think he may if he's overworked around 37... then it's a different story. Henrik isn't on a 35+ contract, and he's a man of honor. I'm not worried about that cap hit at all.
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In 3 years, nobody will be Hank's backup. He will either be retired or be a backup himself. Other than Brodeur how many goalies still start at 38? Even Patrick Roy retired by that age. Even Brodeur's game began to slip once he turned 38.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Thats in the past. If he's the back up now, thats not good. He's too good for that. I don't know how the coach will handle it, so we'll wait to find out.
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Either way, he's very likely to play 40+ games this year, maybe over 50 if he's the playoff starter. That's solid for being at a very high level.
 
In the KHL they play 62 regular season games. Shestyorkin has already played 30. That's hardly back-up numbers. If Kostkinen plays 2/3 of the remainder of the season, Shestyorkin ends up with a total of 40 out of 62 games.
 
Beacon said:
In 3 years, nobody will be Hank's backup. He will either be retired or be a backup himself. Other than Brodeur how many goalies still start at 38? Even Patrick Roy retired by that age. Even Brodeur's game began to slip once he turned 38.
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If he does, then I don't expect him to be a hindrance to the organization. He'll make millions more in his post hockey career.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Thats in the past. If he's the back up now, thats not good. He's too good for that. I don't know how the coach will handle it, so we'll wait to find out.
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SKA hasn't shown any sign that Costco is the starter nor that Igor is the backup.

I think you're reading too much into this for the time being.
 
Irishguy42 said:
SKA hasn't shown any sign that Costco is the starter nor that Igor is the backup.

I think you're reading too much into this for the time being.
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I'm not reading anything into it.

What I am saying is that anything he's done previously doesn't matter. If he was a back up the next three years and played 40 total games those years, thats not good, and what he's done to start this season will almost be invalidated. He needs to continue playing. You can't go years as a back up once you are his age, unless its the National Hockey League, and even then you usually have your best prospect in the minors instead of backing up your starting goalie.

I'm not saying he is the back up. The coach might be splitting time between his two goalies, but definite back ups usually don't start two games in a row, unless you are a Rangers back up and Hank can't keep the puck out of the net. :laugh:

I don't know for sure what Znarok will do, but being the back up is not a solution that works. Shestyorkin could be playing in the NHL this season. He needs to be a starter. Thats the only solution that I think is viable. Too good to be a back up, whether he's played a lot of games this season or not.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I'm not reading anything into it.

What I am saying is that anything he's done previously doesn't matter. If he was a back up the next three years and played 40 total games those years, thats not good, and what he's done to start this season will almost be invalidated. He needs to continue playing. You can't go years as a back up once you are his age, unless its the National Hockey League, and even then you usually have your best prospect in the minors instead of backing up your starting goalie.

I'm not saying he is the back up. The coach might be splitting time between his two goalies, but definite back ups usually don't start two games in a row, unless you are a Rangers back up and Hank can't keep the puck out of the net. :laugh:

I don't know for sure what Znarok will do, but being the back up is not a solution that works. Shestyorkin could be playing in the NHL this season. He needs to be a starter. Thats the only solution that I think is viable. Too good to be a back up, whether he's played a lot of games this season or not.
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This is also the case with Costco.

Ideally, Znarok is doing a 1A/1B solution. But we'll see where it goes from here (and in crunch time for last playoffs push).

Maybe he's resting Shesty for the same reason he's resting other players: Not driving them into the ground during the home stretch while giving others play-time to stay game ready.

Even if you're in a 1A/1B goalie situation, this makes sense.

We'll know a lot more about the situation between Costco/Shesty come the final 5 games of the regular season, and the first round of playoffs. Though maybe even then, we might not.

For now, I think it's safe to believe that Costco is getting some games in since Znarok doesn't want both of his goalies to be cold.
 
If anyone else has been checking the One World Sports TV Schedule the last month and hasn't seen any KHL games listed, I just realized that the schedule they have listed isn't correct. I searched twitter, and there are others that have tweeted at the Channel's twitter account, although the problem hasn't been corrected by the Channel. I'm not sure there's any way to really know what they are airing without turning the channel on at a specific time. I do assume they are still showing KHL matches though.
 
The first goal the defender was used as a screen by the Loko player. Might get a pass for that. Didn't look like he picked up the puck.
 
Didn't see the game, but 2 goals on 28 shots from a good KHL team is not something I'll complain about. That's .929 SV% against a squad that can probably beat any AHL team in a 7 game series.
 
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