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If it's not Jack Campbell who should be the Leafs new #1 goalie?

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SprDaVE said:
As in, he won't be the clear starter. We'll see what happens but there's probably interest in getting him with an asset in some way. It's possible there's 75% retention with a 3rd team too. I don't think the plan is to get him to start 50 games for us.
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right...because retentions are free in the NHL right?

:shakehead
 
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Jimmy Firecracker said:
I don’t think Murray would thrive here at all. The pressure here for a goalie is 50x that of Ottawa. A bad start to the season and it’d be over.
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He's been to the Stanley Cup finals and played for team Canada, he'll be fine in that regard.

That Cap hit, he is injury prone, and is not really a great starting goalie...this is the problem.
 
thewave said:
Which move has allowed us to move past the 1st round? You need to show progress when you're making moves, and we have shown none. Moral victories don't count and AM34 and the other players are going to want raises soon, while we are finding a tender? Most good GMs build from the net out. It's just strange to me the kinds of passes Dubas get around here.

This coming season is the last year before major restructuring. Can we win it all?
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The conversations on this board go as such:

Poster X: Dubas has ruined it for the Leafs
Poster Y: Dubas is great, you have no clue.
Poster X: Gives logical reasons refuting Poster Y's point
Poster Y: Lou's mistakes, Dubas is great
Poster X: Again refutes these and explains logically why Poster Y's point is not making sense
Poster Y: Dubas is great, core has to take responsibility
Poster X: OK.... lets move core piece
Poster Y: No, core is great because Dubas says so
Poster X: You cannot say Dubas is great, then say core should take responsibility, then say core should not be moved because Dubas says so
Poster Y: Whatever you are saying doesn't mean anything
Poster X: Well same to you. (this post gets removed, poster X is out of thread and apparently "disciplined" for saying the same thing that Poster Y posted. But only poster X is in the wrong).


Dubas is clearly an issue but obviously that is not a issue. Go figure.... :huh:

SprDaVE said:
I didn't say they were?
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how much more does this organization need to "spend" just to get out of the 1st round?

Meanwhile Matthews, Nylander get ever so close to UFA status

I mean seriously!
 
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Jimmy Firecracker said:
I don’t think Murray would thrive here at all. The pressure here for a goalie is 50x that of Ottawa. A bad start to the season and it’d be over.



Weirdly specific to name the Leafs, as if other teams wouldn’t be interested in trading for him. Well whatever. Don’t come here then.
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I don't think he is coming (if at all) as the actual solution. Dubas would have to be on crack to put all his eggs in that basket. There has to be another half to the goalie equation because as a backup/1a his need to regain his Pittsburgh level isn't there and I think thats why the club would take a chance. I am pretty sure he is going to be better than 2022 Jack or Mrazek. Just not going to be the guy they put their playoff hopes on.
 
PromisedLand said:
The conversations on this board go as such:

Poster X: Dubas has ruined it for the Leafs
Poster Y: Dubas is great, you have no clue.
Poster X: Gives logical reasons refuting Poster Y's point
Poster Y: Lou's mistakes, Dubas is great
Poster X: Again refutes these and explains logically why Poster Y's point is not making sense
Poster Y: Dubas is great, core has to take responsibility
Poster X: OK.... lets move core piece
Poster Y: No, core is great because Dubas says so
Poster X: You cannot say Dubas is great, then say core should take responsibility, then say core should not be moved because Dubas says so
Poster Y: Whatever you are saying doesn't mean anything
Poster X: Well same to you. (this post gets removed, poster X is out of thread and apparently "disciplined" for saying the same thing that Poster Y posted. But only poster X is in the wrong).


Dubas is clearly an issue but obviously that is not a issue. Go figure.... :huh:
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Or there are many people who only look for the negative, and other posters have to correct them repeatedly because they continuously have to lie or misrepresent other's positions to make any point.

It couldn't be that now, could it?
 
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kb said:
Or there are many people who only look for the negative, and other posters have to correct them repeatedly because they continuously have to lie or misrepresent other's positions to make any point.

It couldn't be that now, could it?
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So not getting out of 1st round is a positive. But getting out of the 1st round is the issue. Thanks! :rolleyes:

SprDaVE said:
They are never winning a playoff round ever, they are doomed, so might as well just wing it and pretend they know what they are doing.
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Thats one way to go about it I guess. This reminds me of a quote from Sutherland when he was promoting 24. something like (paraphrasing)

"i was flying and the person next to me said how safe they felt because they were sitting next to jack bauer. i didn't say anything but i thought i am just an actor pretending; if something went down i'd be the first person looking for help"
 
SprDaVE said:
They are never winning a playoff round ever, they are doomed, so might as well just wing it and pretend they know what they are doing.
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Dave, if they don't get a real tender this season, they may need to start restructuring now and capitalizing on the assets they have. I mean, without a tender to steal a series do you honestly think this is a cup team? Is AM34 going to take this team seriously and stick around? I doubt I would if I were him. It's not a joke anymore, if Dubas messes this up we could be down for 5 years or more.
 
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Rude Dog said:
Really think Dubas plan A was Husso. Feels like soup already has a hand shake agreement with oils. Knowing his character he likely isn’t going back on that now especially if Dubas negotiated in bad faith early on. Caps likely don’t trade their goalie unless they are sure they have a guy like kuemper Secured. Fact Dubas was running around the draft floor talking trade for goalies now makes it clear we are scrambling. Teams will be licking their chops in trade once the music stops and Leafs have no one. Hoping I am wrong.
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Not sure why anyone thinks this.

Campbell is not even allowed to talk to Edmonton yet. And the leafs have no reason to allow them to communicate whilst still negotiating with Campbell themselves

And who knows regarding Keumper. You give the Caps the benefit of the doubt regarding their goaltending but crap on us, makes sense
 
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NewEraGM said:
So officially gone are Husso, Georgiev, Fleury, Gibson, vanacek, holtby (likely retired)

Highly unlikely are Campbell and Allen

Remaining options are Murray, Kuemper, Reimer, Talbot.

Sounds like Murray is the front runner. This is starting to get very ugly for the leafs
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It wasn't exactly pretty in the first place. None of those "officially gone" guys exactly looks more exciting than the remaining options. The only nice thing may have been a Fleury - Murray tandem or something.
 
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NewEraGM said:
So officially gone are Husso, Georgiev, Fleury, Gibson, vanacek, holtby (likely retired)

Highly unlikely are Campbell and Allen

Remaining options are Murray, Kuemper, Reimer, Talbot.

Sounds like Murray is the front runner. This is starting to get very ugly for the leafs
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Talbot the only attractive short-term option at his cap-hit but that's exactly why Guerin keeps him for himself..
 
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