Also on the players though, the Tavares turnover last game was completely unforced and just a horrible play. If that was Holl or Kerfoot who made that turnover, these boards would be crashing. And then Nylander last night with like 3 unforced turnovers in OT on the same shift.
I'd give Keefe till the 20 game mark
- Thread starter Orfieus
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Also on the players though, the Tavares turnover last game was completely unforced and just a horrible play. If that was Holl or Kerfoot who made that turnover, these boards would be crashing. And then Nylander last night with like 3 unforced turnovers in OT on the same shift.
willmma
Registered User
- Jan 5, 2017
- 3,193
- 4,081
Keefe has brought success for the teams that Dubas coached. I didn't say there is no attachment. It is a successful working relationship - attachment.
I have issue with calling it an "emotional attachment" and the GM is afraid to make a change. That is silly.
62 more regular season games, 7 playoff games and we’ll finally get what we want and deserve… Hopefully a new GM and head coach that have experience.
- Emotional attachment is the tendency to cling to people, beliefs, habits, possessions and circumstances, and the refusal to let go and try new things.
- When you are emotionally attached, you are unable or unwilling to let go, make changes, or get out of your comfort zone and do new things.
May not be completely accurate, but it doesn't sound that far fetched or silly to me.
How many Soo connections are there in the organization are there again ?
Meh, we're 20 games in with a not so ideal goalie situation.
And yet, there we are 2nd in our division.
If it's true that you can usually tell who's gonna make it to the playoffs after the 20 game mark, well I think we should be pleased.
I guess the problems we're worried about is we should be even better.
Bruins 11 points up on us after 20 is nuts.
And yet, there we are 2nd in our division.
If it's true that you can usually tell who's gonna make it to the playoffs after the 20 game mark, well I think we should be pleased.
I guess the problems we're worried about is we should be even better.
Bruins 11 points up on us after 20 is nuts.
ACC1224
Super Elite, Passing ALL Tests since 2002
- Aug 19, 2002
- 78,317
- 45,528
Al14
Registered User
- Jul 13, 2007
- 24,472
- 5,992
It better start with a new president at the top! Shanahan has been a disgrace of a leader. Under his direction, this team DOES NOT play hockey the way he did!
Shanahan and his family do not even live in Toronto. This speaks volumes to me. He's not committed to building a winning team here. He's just taking care of himself, and keeping his options open to re-joining the NHL front office.
When has Shanahan ever called out the NHL for the anti-Leafs bias we fans see regularly from the referees and NHL DOPS???
JMHO.
Larcos_Unal
Registered Nurse
Keefe isn't perfect but I'd say the crux of the Leafs problems this year has been on the shoulders of Dubas and his brutal offseason.
PromisedLand
I need more FOOD
Keefe has been coach since 2019. 3 years and this is his fourth. I don't know if I would call that "an emotional attachment"
Jared Bednar on the other hand has been coach since 2016. He didn't win anything anything in five years. And despite "the emotional attachment" and the need being "afraid to make a change" the Avs won a cup in the following year.
Strange how that works, no?
Kadri for barrie+kerfoot might have something to do with it
and of course drafting a stud like Makar also helps!
and in all those years Sakic traded the 1st rounder just once for Keumper thats it.
Strange how that works too eh?
Last edited:
PromisedLand
I need more FOOD
Jimmy Firecracker
Backcheck, Forecheck, Paycheque.
At the 20 game mark, 5 on 5 scoring is a huge problem. Team has also been very lackadaisical with the puck. Despite this he’s done enough to not be canned yet after a horrific start and a disastrous California road trip.
The 5v5 scoring also falls on Dubas by not getting help, but until then Keefe needs to maximize what offence he can wring out of the forward group as currently constructed. Maybe he should let his top left wing prospect who has scored at every level play more than a handful of games at a time.
He also needs to get it through the players thick skulls to stop needlessly giving the puck away. That’s especially true now that half our defence is so young and inexperienced.
He’s in for one hell of a challenge now with our three best and highest paid defensemen out with long term injuries. If we’re lucky our goaltending will get and stay healthy to minimize the impact of our broken defence.
The 5v5 scoring also falls on Dubas by not getting help, but until then Keefe needs to maximize what offence he can wring out of the forward group as currently constructed. Maybe he should let his top left wing prospect who has scored at every level play more than a handful of games at a time.
He also needs to get it through the players thick skulls to stop needlessly giving the puck away. That’s especially true now that half our defence is so young and inexperienced.
He’s in for one hell of a challenge now with our three best and highest paid defensemen out with long term injuries. If we’re lucky our goaltending will get and stay healthy to minimize the impact of our broken defence.
Last edited:
willmma
Registered User
- Jan 5, 2017
- 3,193
- 4,081
Maybe...
Some would say the crux of the problem is
Muzzin missing 16 games
Murray missing 14 games
Samsonov missing 8 games
Brodie missing 5 games
Matthews shooting %
Yeah, what ever happened to due dilligence ie 'hiring the best coach available'....
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
keonsbitterness
Registered User
There are no excuses. If they play well the next month it will be a testament to the team's depth and character, and lack of same if they play poorly.
ACC1224
Super Elite, Passing ALL Tests since 2002
- Aug 19, 2002
- 78,317
- 45,528
You just know that's already being prepped.
May as well give out the extensions now.
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
I'd be surprised If they play well without 44,78 and 8. Unless Dubas trades for a top 4 dman that can cover Rielly's minutes, Gio may be the next to fall.
Ianturnedbull
Registered User
- Jun 11, 2022
- 6,445
- 5,959
I somewhat agree with your definition, but at this point it's a career survival move for Dubas. If Dubas fires Keefe then all the focus then goes to Kyle.
For better or for worse. We are stuck with Keefe/Dubas until April/May.
Well...an epic set-back could change things too...
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Drafting Mack, Rantanan, Landeskog, Byram also helped...Kadri for barrie+kerfoot might have something to do with it
and of course drafting a stud like Makar also helps!
and in all those years Sakic traded the 1st rounder just once for Keumper thats it.
Strange how that works too eh?
Ianturnedbull
Registered User
- Jun 11, 2022
- 6,445
- 5,959
Lol. I must say though this coach and his "day late and a dollar short" existence is very disappointing.
Did it really have to take a colossal failure of a 3v3 last night to do it though?
Most likely.
But if this season ends in another 1st round loss (or worse) the focus is squarely on Kyle regardless.
IMO he has a better chance for survival if he moves off Keefe now.
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
GDT: 2024-25 season game 55 LA Kings vs Vegas Golden Knights @7:30pm 2/24/25- Latest: RayMartyniukTotems
