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Kovalev27 said:
He doesn’t want it. He rather work away from the net. First minute of the game he’s got a clear look at the net peels off. I knew he’d shrink the minute we brought in some bigger names. Zero doubt in my mind he was going to hide
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tbf to him, who on this team wants it? He's emulating the leaders similar to Panarin and Zibs. Are they being coached? from the looks of it, this staff is about as hands off as you can get.

It needs to be drilled into the players to attack.
 
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duhmetreE said:
tbf to him, who on this team wants it? He's emulating the leaders in Panarin and Zibs.

It needs to be drilled into the players to attack.
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Zibanejad is one of our better players night in night out, he's the last guy you can complain about with regards to effort on this team. Whether he gets points or not he's consistent in his effort.
 
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Kanerbomb said:
Zibanejad is one of our better players night in night out, he's the last guy you can complain about with regards to effort on this team. Whether he gets points or not he's consistent in his effort.
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what does that have to do with what we're talking about? He's not shooting or attacking the net.
 
Utter crap first two periods, followed by a pretty decent third, followed by an overtime that started the same exact way as the last 2 they won, followed by Panarin, Fox, and Zibanejad not changing after 40 seconds as they should have, followed by a stupid penalty, followed by a predictable PPG.

Line combos were horrible and only fixed in the third.

Halak stole a point today.
 
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Nyr88nyg said:
Still trying to understand that skate backwards strat in OT
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Spread the play out, try to beat the forward in the neutral zone, and create an oddman situation off the rush in the offensive zone.
Most teams are doing something like that. Preferable to play the keep away game vs. trying to recover the puck from the other team. If you do it right, you can also keep the other three players on the ice, get a quick change, and go to work on a tired defending trio. The Rangers rarely do that right.

IMO, this strategy is not going away, league wide, until/unless the NHL institutes a "backcourt violation" style offsides* for 3-on3- like the NBA has that results in a faceoff at center ice.

*Not advocating for this necessarily, just saying this is probably the kind of thing it would take to make this strat go away.
 
Kovalev27 said:
He doesn’t want it. He rather work away from the net. First minute of the game he’s got a clear look at the net peels off. I knew he’d shrink the minute we brought in some bigger names. Zero doubt in my mind he was going to hide
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Too soft physically, and too clean. If he's going to play a size and puck possession game, he has to be difficult to play againt. OK, he protects the puck in the corner and is pretty good at it. That's a ticket in juniors. But not in the NHL. If you hit him hard, does his game change? Does he get mad and make you regret it? Does he take a number and smoke you on the forecheck? Does he decide he's going to posterize you with a dangle and score?

No, he plays exactly the same way as he always does.

This is my biggest grievance with Kakko. His game is a size/strength game. You can't play soft and do that, especially when teams take liberties, or hook/hold you to contain you. It doesn't mean he needs to play dirty, but he could stand to watch some Jaromir Jagr highlights because that's the kind of stuff he should be attempting every once in a while. Everything from the occasional popping someone with an elbow when they're holding him to where he goes without the puck to seemingly always find a rebound, to where he goes with the puck when he's protecting it with his puck.

Instead he plays like he's trying to win the Lady Byng, and when he gets knocked around (like he did twice today), doesn't seem to get up mad and determined to either get even physically or on the scoresheet. It makes him a soft perimeter player who doesn't naturally create offense.
 
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They've honestly looked horrible since the break. Igor and Halak are responsible for 5/6 points.

They're game today was actually worse than my Daylight Savings Time workout (always one of my worst gym days of the year).

I know it's cool to hate Panarin but he plays like a jackass. Drop pass after drop pass and he gets back to the bench and winks and laughs at it. He's lucky he plays for Gallant and not Keenan. The thing is he is capable of backchecking.

If he's really injured from the Wilson aftermath, he should go on LTIR after this season and get it fixed, otherwise see a sports psychologist.

Fox owes Lindgren like a quarter of his salary.

The D is having issues, shouldn't Gord Murphy be doing additional video sessions with these guys?

The kids are slumping bad. They need to turn it around. Kaako needs to shoot more. If this team had an actual skills coach and not that fraud Ciacciao, maybe he'd actually, you know identify it and spend some time feeding pucks to Kaako.

If the Rangers strategy is to half ass it until like 5 games left and then turn in on into playoff mode, ok cool...but it's not very often a team can just flip a switch/Game Genie mode and get away with it.
 
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I think they finally found some line combos in that 3rd, but man, the young guys have just disappeared. Laf's been getting on the sheet lately, but the other two, milk cartons.
 
Laf had a few good plays today. Chytil really needed to shoot that puck in the first. Laf basically gave him a partial breakaway from the circle in, and of course he tried to pass to Kane.
Laf also had a good read later on and nearly had a breakaway, but the pass to him was bad.

Laf is setting people up, but they're just not finishing. I would like to see him with Tarasenko for a bit.
 
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bouds said:
I think they finally found some line combos in that 3rd, but man, the young guys have just disappeared. Laf's been getting on the sheet lately, but the other two, milk cartons.
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When Kakko decides to play hockey again they'll be fine. The problem is all three players are young and inconsistent and Laf and Kakko have trouble producing when moved up the lineup which leaves the rangers with a line that is going to have major lows and highs. When all three are clicking the rangers are a much better team. Hopefully the playoffs gets them going again.
 
tomobson said:
When Kakko decides to play hockey again they'll be fine. The problem is all three players are young and inconsistent and Laf and Kakko have trouble producing when moved up the lineup which leaves the rangers with a line that is going to have major lows and highs. When all three are clicking the rangers are a much better team. Hopefully the playoffs gets them going again.
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We see it a lot with young players. There are points in the season usually between December-March when things just don't go their way.

Usually the final 12-15 games of the season players start to get refreshed. Hopefully they can get their groove back.
 
Is there a worse decision maker on the Rangers than Mika? Panarin and Fox sometimes make unnecessary passes but both of their strengths are passing they're good not great at shooting. Mika has the best shot on the team and one of the best in the league and the guy gets grade A chances in the slot and passes them off 100% of the time. Does he have confidence issues?
 
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Ruggs225 said:
didnt watch the game as indont get tnt.

What were the line combos at the end-of the game where people are saying they worked?
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Kreider-Trocheck-Kane
Panarin-Zibanejad-Tarasenko
Kids
Vesey-Goodrow-Motte

TNT studio: Keith Yandle - Liam McHugh - Anson Carter - Colby "Army" Armstrong
 
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will1066 said:
Kreider-Trocheck-Kane
Panarin-Zibanejad-Tarasenko
Kids
Vesey-Goodrow-Motte

TNT studio: Keith Yandle - Liam McHugh - Anson Carter - Colby Armstrong
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Armstrong was atrocious. As much as homer as you can be for the crybaby Pens.
Respected that franchise during the Mario Lemieux years, but holy heck they are a bunch of whiny babies nowadays. And the fans too.
 
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Looking at the whole game including the 3rd period this was an even game. The Penguins were very dangerous 5 on 5 in the first half of the first period and I think to start the second. But honestly they didn't generate all that much. If the game were two periods I'd say we got dominated but the third was all Rangers. The Rangers CAN play well sometimes it's just too rare.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Looking at the whole game including the 3rd period this was an even game. The Penguins were very dangerous 5 on 5 in the first half of the first period and I think to start the second. But honestly they didn't generate all that much. If the game were two periods I'd say we got dominated but the third was all Rangers. The Rangers CAN play well sometimes it's just too rare.
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The Rangers "looked" better in the 3rd because the Pens stopped forechecking and protected their lead. The Rangers are poor at dealing with a good forecheck and their transition sucks monkey butt. Same old. Give them a bit of space to play with and they look better. Again, nothing new.
 
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CLW said:
The Rangers "looked" better in the 3rd because the Pens stopped forechecking and protected their lead. The Rangers are poor at dealing with a good forecheck and their transition sucks monkey butt. Same old. Give them a bit of space to play with and they look better. Again, nothing new.
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They looked better at 2-2 than at any point in the first period and most of the second.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
They looked better at 2-2 than at any point in the first period and most of the second.
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Yes. Let's repeat ourselves:
They looked better because the Pens didn't forecheck the way they did in the first 2 periods and gave them more space to work with................
 
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