Hypothetical - does McDavid win the Conn Smythe even if Oilers lose the cup? Assuming he has an above average finals

[DitchMarner]

Still waiting for him to play a good team.

DAL is good.

If FLA isn't the best EC team, I don't know who is.

 

[cupface52]

Out of curiosity, has there ever been a player on the losing team that clearly deserved the Smythe but didn't win it?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

DAL is good.

If FLA isn't the best EC team, I don't know who is.

Montreal

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

With the way the Panthers/Bobrovsky has been playing the past 2 games, McDavid might not qualify for the question in the OP.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Now that enough time has passed from the game, I just can't see anyone other than McDavid winning the Conn Smythe, even if the Oilers get blown out next game/shutout. His postseason effort deserves recognition.

 

[Silky Johnson]

85 - Gretzky 47, Savard 29
91 - Lemieux 44, Bellows 29
88 - Gretzky 43, Linesman 25
24 - McDavid 42, Tkachuk 22

Thanks!

McDavid has the most separation. This and the fact that there is no obvious goalie choice (Bob's Sv% of .907 is not outstanding) makes a clear case for a Conn Smyth regardless of SC.

 

[crazyhawk]

McDavid deserves the CS no doubt but if the Oilers lose I doubt he will be at all happy about winning it!
So here's to McD having his cake and eating it too!

 

[SirloinUB]

If he doesn't win it everybody has f***ed up.

 

[Laveuglette]

Out of curiosity, has there ever been a player on the losing team that clearly deserved the Smythe but didn't win it?

Daniel Brière in 2010 imo.

 

[cupface52]

Daniel Brière in 2010 imo.

Would he have been the clear winner if Philly wins the cup? Yes, but that can be said about other players as well, ie, Pronger in '06.

I don't think there's ever been a clear cut MVP on the losing team before.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

A goalie isn't winning the Conn Smythe this year. Like I said a week ago, it's going to be McDavid. There's no way it won't be, no matter who hoists the Cup. McDavid's playoff stats are setting records and are a huge reason the Oilers are in it. Bob's stats, while his performance in the Finals up to Game 3 was legendary, his playoff stats this year are very mortal, no matter how much he means to the team. Oilers were doomed when McDavid wasn't showing up, but when he started to, they started to bury the Cats. That speaks volumes.

Agree with your reasoning on the Smythe.

Truthfully, I've not seen a game this playoff season (I've watched all but 2 of them in earlier rounds) where McDavid didn't show up.

What I think happened after game 2 of the Finals is that he finally rid himself of the "I must pass to Hyman" mindset and took it upon himself to make it happen no matter how he had to.

I have been a huge fan of McDavid since I saw him play in the OHL with Erie, but this post season has made my admiration of his play even greater.

 

[elmaco]

It's people like this that are so certain of being right, that I make money gambling.

Dumb opinion, spread as fact.

I love it.

McDavid deserves the Smythe. Breaking assist record, may in fact break the Cup finals points record. Win or lose. Trophies his. For his sake, hope Skinner holds up. That's the only question mark in my "dumb" opinion

I don't gamble. Watch him not win it tho.

 

[tsujimoto74]

He’s gotta be the Smythe winner regardless of what happens from here out. This is the best playoff performance by any skater in 3 decades.

 

[sinDer]

No matter what happens next, McDavid wins it. Well deserved.

 

[Sensatauro]

I don't gamble. Watch him not win it tho.

It's clear you don't gamble, nor should you.

It's laughable that this is your response.

Dumbness gonna dumb though

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

The most valuable player for the winning team not the best loser award. If 97 can force game 7 and get 4 goals & 8 points in the next 2 games he likely will, but if they lose in 6 and he doesn’t have a huge game he probably won’t

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The most valuable player for the winning team not the best loser award. If 97 can force game 7 and get 4 goals & 8 points in the next 2 games he likely will, but if they lose in 6 and he doesn’t have a huge game he probably won’t

You might want to check the Conn Smythe's meaning.

No where does it say winning team.

 

[Sra1974]

Massive oiler adn Mcdavid fan and I hope they don’t give it to him if the Oilers lose. I think he would hate getting it and would feel embarrassed by it. Give it to Barkov.

 

[Frank Drebin]

The most valuable player for the winning team not the best loser award. If 97 can force game 7 and get 4 goals & 8 points in the next 2 games he likely will, but if they lose in 6 and he doesn’t have a huge game he probably won’t

Even ignoring the name you can smell a Canuck fan from a mile away.

 

[BlueSeal]

The most valuable player for the playoffs not the best loser award. If 97 can force game 7 and get 4 goals & 8 points in the next 2 games he likely will, but if they lose in 6 and he doesn’t have a huge game he probably won’t

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

Only up for consideration if he has a great g6 and forces a g7.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

I think McDavid iOS in his prime. If this series go to game 7. It’s his trophy. If this ends in game 6. I expect a panther wins it.

 

[authentic]

Massive oiler adn Mcdavid fan and I hope they don’t give it to him if the Oilers lose. I think he would hate getting it and would feel embarrassed by it. Give it to Barkov.

If this goes to game 7 and he breaks Gretzky's point record there's not a lot to be embarassed about lol

 

[ozzie]

If the series goes to a game 7, continues to rack up points and loses, he might win it. Not sure he gets it in 6 games. Obviously if they win the series, 100%.

Historically, goalies have won the award for losing teams all 5 times it's happened. Standing on their heads. The current implosion of Florida and some of it's top players, makes it interesting for sure.

I honestly think the Smythe should go to a player on the winning team, it should be a requirement. The whole point is to win the cup.

 

[Sra1974]

If this goes to game 7 and he breaks Gretzky's point record there's not a lot to be embarassed about lol

I think it’s just the concept of individual recognition in front of the team who just won the prize you really want that’s all.