RebuildinVan
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Gretzky,Orr,Lemieux,Sakic ...etcetera all had pointless games in the finals
Hypothetical - does McDavid win the Conn Smythe even if Oilers lose the cup? Assuming he has an above average finals
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Also turned the puck over and then didn't get back in time for the Oilers' first goal.
McDavid pointless in game 6 but I don't think he attempted an offensive play after it was 3-0, even on the PP. Spent the entire rest of the game just trying to be in defensive position.
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At this point I think it’s a lock. If Florida swept I think BOB and possibly Barkov but after McDavid in game 4&5 and the team forcing game 7 plus the historic playoff point totals, it had to be McDavid
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Bob has to have a 50 save shutout in game 7 otherwise it’s McDavids award to lose.
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Not if you actually watched the game. Barkov was alright and had a goal, but he's still got a lot of problems out there. Turned the puck over for the first goal, can't run the PP, got a tough time in the neutral zone.. Nothing at this point can change the fact that McDavid should be the unanimous winner whatever the seventh game might bring.
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I actually watched the game. Did you? Barkov was by far the best Panther, he scored TWO goals and was the only player to give Edmonton's defense trouble. McDavid was practically invisible (though solid in his own end).
Your last sentence has nothing to do with my point.
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Since when does goals that doesn't count count? What a ridiculous thing to add. Barkov scored one goal, and it was a beaut. But nothing he did last night was better than anything McDavid actually did. Barkov's been getting credit for his defensive work all playoffs and when he's not producing people wanna give him the Smythe because he's elite defensively. Time to give the same credit to McDavid when he shows that he can do the same. It's not all about production when your team, for once, is carrying the load offensively. The problem with Barkov is that as much as he did good, he also did less good. Like I mentioned. He can't run the PP, he gave away the puck that ended up 1-0, he's didn't manage to control the neutral zone through the game.
You know what? Sure
Barkov was far more valuable to his team in Game 6 than McDavid was.
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HIS PLAY COUNTS: his intensity and his skill.
Exact opposite is true. McDavid did next to nothing. The rest of the Oilers finally showed up and showed they can play without McDavid. The rest of the Panthers can't do squat without Barkov.
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Sure, play counts. But only when it counts.
McDavid was absolutely astounding in his defensive game. Trust me, that counts too. Especially when comparing him to Barkov, who's whole playoff run is raised to the skies because of his defensive game in the first three rounds.
Only way I see McDavid NOT winning the Conn Smythe on Monday is if the Panthers win Game 7 and Barkov gets 3+ points or nets the OT goal.
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Bobrovski pitching a 50 save shutout will likely get him the CS. Barkov wins it with three points where Bobrovski gives up a few goals.
Otherwise, McDavid will win it.
Otherwise, McDavid will win it.
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Smythe votes are due by the second period of game 7. It's McDavid's at this point.
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Agreed, it would have to be an extreme scenario. I think it would need to be more than Barkov or Bobrovsky having a great game, McDavid would have to have a terrible game as well.
For Barkov to win, you'd probably need all four of these things to happen:
- Florida wins
- Barkov gets at least 3-4 points (perhaps scoring the game winner)
- McDavid is held pointless
- McDavid makes a terrible giveaway (perhaps leading to Barkov's winning goal)
Barring either of these unlikely scenarios, McDavid will win.
Hockeyholic
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Alot depends on game 7 though.
If Barkov has a hatty before votes are due, Cats leading 6-1, him winning would not be a robbery imo.
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In this case, McDavid's play in Game 6 should definitely count for even less.
Sure. Whatever.
The voting is completed by the end of the 2nd period of Game 7.
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That's true, but my understanding is voters provide "contingent" ballots. For example "McDavid... unless Barkov scores the OT winner" or "McDavid... unless Bobrovsky gets to 50 saves".
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Always interesting to see which posters double down when they should be cutting their losses.
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It's McDavid's.
Now that it's pushed to game 7 he's an absolute lock.
Now that it's pushed to game 7 he's an absolute lock.
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Empoleon8771
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Yeah this is exactly what I think. Purely getting it to game 7 locks it up for him, especially with how horrendous the Panthers have been in the last few games.
Whether the Oilers win game 7 just determines how legendary this series is for McDavid.
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