Hyman Discussion Thread

[Kiwi]

I wish him the best but the only way he stays is on a team friendly deal.

The guys a good solider who I really want to see resigned, but I'll hold no ill will if he wants to chase the dollars on another team. But the Leafs are done overpaying guys.

His body also for a couple seasons now looks like it has trouble staying fresh for the post season. That's a risky big money investment to make

Yep. His body takes a beating every game because of how he plays. He turns 29 next week, too, so signing him to big dollars long-term is a massive risk.

I'd give it 2 to 3 years before you regret resigning him, his play style isn't conducive to aging gracefully

That's the type of player that falls off a cliff

 

[Jarqui]

I like Hyman. I don't think any Leaf worked any harder during his time here. And he was doing a bunch of the heavy lifting. He made any line he played on better.

The problem is: guys like Hyman tend to have a shorter career playing that way at that level due to the punishment they subject their bodies to. This could be Hyman's only chance to cash in on $ and term. I can't blame him for that.

When the media asked about him re-signing today, he was not committed. Yes, it was too soon and he hasn't thought about it too much. But I did not get a great vibe from his answer. Maybe he was posturing for not signing until after the expansion draft ...

 

[Dreakmur]

I'd give it 2 to 3 years before you regret resigning him, his play style isn't conducive to aging gracefully

That's the type of player that falls off a cliff

Sounds like he’ll start to decline right as all our core starts to walk away as UFAs. May as well go for it, right?

 

[ToneDog]

Let Hyman walk and sign Goodrow and Coleman ?

 

[Smif]

5 points in his last 19 playoff games and he was setup repeatedly by Matthews and Marner throughout the series and in game 7 especially.

Robertson is just sitting there for a quarter of the price.

Kerfoot at 3.5M was far more important in the playoffs and everyone wants to give him away...

 

[Bomber0104]

Icing on the cake for this season will be watching Hyman walk for nothing.....

And that's all because of Dubas' cap mis-management.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Chris Johnston basically said, he's most likely gone due to cap issues. Its basically going to go down to Hyman vs. Reilly, only keep 1

Hyman stays Reilly goes

 

[robertmac43]

This guy leaves for nothing and I'll be completely rattled!

 

[Swervin81]

The reality of the situation with Hyman is that players of his playstyle do not age well in the slightest, and he's turning 29 in a week.

Clowe, Ladd, Lucic, Okposo, Dustin Brown, Backes... our very own mistake in Clarkson... there is an enormous laundry list of folks who play a similar style of game and get paid long term at a similar age. It never, ever ends well.

 

[mydnyte]

I Love Hyman on the 3rd line ...i dont mind Hyman on the 2nd line if its with Tavares and Nylander (only), as they are both shooters, but, I DESPISE Hyman on the 1st line, always have and always will, and would rather he walk then ever skate on the first line again.

lets review the Mtl Series vs line 1...
Marner has the puck, Matthews gets double and/or triple teamed as he is the only legit scoring option, so, Marner soft tosses it towards the net and hits Hyman in the back, or Hyman get the puck and Price stops him, rinse, repeat for 7 games!
I think Hyman blocked more of our scoring chances than the Montreal defense did the last 2 games.

 

[Bomber0104]

The reality of the situation with Hyman is that players of his playstyle do not age well in the slightest, and he's turning 29 in a week.

Clowe, Ladd, Lucic, Okposo, Dustin Brown, Backes... our very own mistake in Clarkson... there is an enormous laundry list of folks who play a similar style of game and get paid long term at a similar age. It never, ever ends well.

Regardless of how his playstyle bodes 4 or 5 years from now, the fact of the matter is that losing him to free agency is going to hurt the team badly for next season.

At his current cap-hit you just won't be able to replace him.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Let Hyman walk and sign Goodrow and Coleman ?

Hell yes.

 

[ToneDog]

Regardless of how his playstyle bodes 4 or 5 years from now, the fact of the matter is that losing him to free agency is going to hurt the team badly for next season.

At his current cap-hit you just won't be able to replace him.

If he refuses 4.5, 4.5 might get you two solid Hyman lites. Play them with Matty and Johnny and we might not miss Hymie as much as we think we will.

I believe Goodrow is from Aurora and is currently making 925K.
Blake Coleman is making $1.8.
Nosek 1.25m
Brett Ritchie $770K
Perry $750K ??

 

[WTFMAN99]

If he refuses 4.5, 4.5 might get you two solid Hyman lites. Play them with Matty and Johnny and we might not miss Hymie as much as we think we will.

People overstate 1 player's importance.

JT leaves the Isles...they got nothing back, they haven't looked back.

You can move on from Hyman and get Goodrow/Coleman...they bring what we want.

 

[Clark4Ever]

This is a tough scenario. The right deal for the club would be something in the neighborhood of a 4 million AAV over 3-4 years, but he will likely get better offers and more term on the open market, which, as others have suggested, would not age well.

At the end of the day, it will come down to whether or not Hyman is willing to leave money on the table to stay.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

People overstate 1 player's importance.

JT leaves the Isles...they got nothing back, they haven't looked back.

You can move on from Hyman and get Goodrow/Coleman...they bring what we want.

Yes assuming you can get both of them 100% correct .. i think Goodrow would be better chance .. maybe even get Paul from Ottawa and reunite them both on new 3rd line with Coleman and you might have best 3rd line in hockey right now

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yes assuming you can get both of them 100% correct .. i think Goodrow would be better chance .. maybe even get Paul from Ottawa and reunite them both on new 3rd line with Coleman and you might have best 3rd line in hockey right now

I think with Goodrow being from Toronto, better chance. Coleman will absolutely hit UFA though due to TBL cap problems. 4 years at 3-3.5M, we can do it.

 

[mydnyte]

I think with Goodrow being from Toronto, better chance. Coleman will absolutely hit UFA though due to TBL cap problems. 4 years at 3-3.5M, we can do it.

I'm on record as not being a fan of Hyman, but, Goodrow i think would be a downgrade ...Coleman, i think will be too expensive.
We need a top 4 Winger with enough scoring touch to be a real scoring threat (so, you cant just stick 2 guys on Matthews and not worry about the other forward) and has some sandpaper in their game.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm on record as not being a fan of Hyman, but, Goodrow i think would be a downgrade ...Coleman, i think will be too expensive.
We need a top 4 Winger with enough scoring touch to be a real scoring threat (so, you cant just stick 2 guys on Matthews and not worry about the other forward) and has some sandpaper in their game.

I totally want to add Saad as well to the group.

Goodrow and Coleman are to bolster our bottom 6 group

 

[jaric1862]

Dreger seems to be conviced that Hyman is staying, Chris Johnston says its unlikely he returns. A lot fo conflicting info on this situation

 

[17 Clark]

I'd give it 2 to 3 years before you regret resigning him, his play style isn't conducive to aging gracefully

That's the type of player that falls off a cliff

You mean a player that actually cares Unlike what we have now and he should drain them for every penny he can go just like are pre-Madonna‘s did

 

[17 Clark]

In Kyle's world, Matty, Mitch, Willie and Johnny will always have the puck so you don't need anybody to "get" them the puck.

So basically were never winning anything that’s something to look forward to

 

[mydnyte]

I totally want to add Saad as well to the group.

Goodrow and Coleman are to bolster our bottom 6 group

Saad would be my #1 'want' ...doubt we can afford him though, i have a feeling, there will be some offers that are going to be regretted in a few years for him.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Saad would be my #1 'want' ...doubt we can afford him though, i have a feeling, there will be some offers that are going to be regretted in a few years for him.

Given what Toffoli got, a 5M x4 year contract would be a good contract for him.

 

[jaric1862]

Truly looks like it’s going to come down to Rielly or Hyman. Who do you believe is more replaceable by someone making less salary?