Hyman Discussion Thread

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Hyman will be up and down the line up. There's no demotion. The line up is going to be Matthews Tavares Nylander Marner and a bunch of moving parts and the defense is going to be Rielly Muzzin and Brodie and a bunch of moving parts.

People will be up and down the entire season, the way it should be. I think OP might be Mike Babcock
 
I think Thornton was signed for leadership much like Marleau had been, he isn't/never was fast so being able to act as a defensive option seems unlikely. Thornton's greatest value might be on the top 2 lines as a possession option, puck distributer which suits his past but he sure isn't what he was so he won't be superior in any sense. I really don't see why TO signed Thornton but it might work out.

Kerfoot had a crappy year last year but I can remember him from his Colorado days, he's better than what he's shown with the Leafs, I chalk it up to unable to soar with eagles when playing with turkeys.

I don't think Matthews needs Marner to score, he's put up superior numbers with a variety of wingers so I'd like to see TO's first line changed to:

Mikheyev/Mathews/Vesey

TO's 2nd line has JT at center and JT has traditionally been thought to improve whoever he plays with which has been what we've seen since he's been in TO:

Kerfoot/JT/Robertson

I think if TO really wants to play 11 forwards 7 d-men it has to have 3 superior lines , the first 2 lines has potential to be good/dominant, maybe, so ideally TO needs to ice another superior line:

Nylander/Hyman/Marner

Which of those lines would be #1 or #3, depends on the day, the opposition, varying factors but in any event TO's forwards as a whole need to become far more responsible defensively.

I see your point, but you omitted Thornton. Was that on purpose, or do you see him on the 4th line?
 
I really like Hyman on the third line. I think our 3rd line is going to surprise a lot of people

Robertson will hopefully slide in for Thornton when he rests.

Would be great for Matthews’ & Marner’s development as well. Some games with grizzled vet Thornton, some games with rookie Robertson.

Love the way our team looks this year, I would be disappointed if we don’t finish first in this division.
 
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Offer him 4.5m aav max even if its on an 8 year deal. If he walks find someone else.
 
I wish him the best but the only way he stays is on a team friendly deal.

The guys a good solider who I really want to see resigned, but I'll hold no ill will if he wants to chase the dollars on another team. But the Leafs are done overpaying guys.

His body also for a couple seasons now looks like it has trouble staying fresh for the post season. That's a risky big money investment to make
 
I wish him the best but the only way he stays is on a team friendly deal.

The guys a good solider who I really want to see resigned, but I'll hold no ill will if he wants to chase the dollars on another team. But the Leafs are done overpaying guys.

His body also for a couple seasons now looks like it has trouble staying fresh for the post season. That's a risky big money investment to make

Yep. His body takes a beating every game because of how he plays. He turns 29 next week, too, so signing him to big dollars long-term is a massive risk.
 
What is team-friendly for him and his agent I wonder? $4.5? Anything more than that will make it tough. Who is his comparable?

I think I read that the league minimum is going up to $750k? Which makes no sense when the cap is flat... but whatever.

What do we have, $12.5 million to work with to fill out the roster barring any trades of players under contract?
 
What is team-friendly for him and his agent I wonder? $4.5? Anything more than that will make it tough. Who is his comparable?

I think I read that the league minimum is going up to $750k? Which makes no sense when the cap is flat... but whatever.

What do we have, $12.5 million to work with to fill out the roster barring any trades of players under contract?
To me he is a more energy version of Alex Tuch who has more points with more games but plays on the 3rd line, so I guess for Hyman he should probably be about 4.25mil but also he should probably get played on the 3rd line, the HEM line was good!
 
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Chris Johnston basically said, he's most likely gone due to cap issues. Its basically going to go down to Hyman vs. Reilly, only keep 1
 
Hyman is the play then IMO. Recoup assets for Rielly. With Sandin ready and Lilj around it makes sense to move on now, even if Rielly is a better player

I actually agree with it, get a first and prospect for Reilly. Also, if you keep Reilly he'll want a big raise next summer and will probably be gone anyway
 
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this has Clarkson 2.0 written all over it

offer 10 over 3 and let him walk if wants more

Hyman is the heart and soul of this team. The dude single handedly won us games this year. I can't believe that isn't getting recognized. He's a keeper for sure!
 
Hyman is the heart and soul of this team. The dude single handedly won us games this year. I can't believe that isn't getting recognized. He's a keeper for sure!
the dude has won us nothing and did nothing again in the playoffs

but hey he tries hard so lets give him an anchor contract
 
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the dude has won us nothing and did nothing again in the playoffs

but hey he tries hard so lets give him an anchor contract

Trying hard is such a deficiency on this team that fans are basically demanding an overpayment for Hyman.
 
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Chris Johnston basically said, he's most likely gone due to cap issues. Its basically going to go down to Hyman vs. Reilly, only keep 1
Chris Johnston is wrong. Hyman isn’t leaving this market. His entire family and wife are from Toronto

4.0-5.0 AAV tops
 
What is Hyman fair market value and who are his comparable?
Tom Wilson?
Adam Lowry?
Nick Foligno?
Connor Brown?
Josh Anderson?

I don’t think he is worth 5mil and if the cap is flat.
 

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