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So I went to the local Lidl and bought myself a pizza. I have now eaten it. My lips are burning. It's inside me, and in near future it will be coming out. I fear I have done a mistake.

No they're different. One is not allowing anything to be squirted into themself.
Are we talking about your toilet here?
 

Roboturner913

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Buried my dad today and then my sister died 3 hours after the funeral ended. I really have no words.

Be safe, say the things you need to say before it's too late and really just stay the f*** away from COVID-19.
 

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Dude, I know I'm just some yahoo on a message board, but I feel like you and I agree more often than not and are digging on the same references and jokes more often than not, so I mean, buddies for life. I care about you and I know we all do here and I am really sorry all this is happening.
 

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Given Robo's bad news (Condolences)I'm hesitant to post this.
Phone Call with mom Aunt update. (She did get the vaccine)
Covid will not claim her she's been sent home. However the Cancer well.. they'll find out more today maybe.. (More tests) I'll just drown myself in work so I don't have to think about it.

Let me know if I can do anything for you Robo.. Even if it's just bringing some food or something.

Edit: Merkel is the type of cancer and it is spreading or has spread..
 
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Buried my dad today and then my sister died 3 hours after the funeral ended. I really have no words.

Be safe, say the things you need to say before it's too late and really just stay the f*** away from COVID-19.
Robo I'm so sorry. Stay strong. We're here for you. I know we don't really know each other but if you need to talk I'm just a PM away.
 
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DaveG

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Buried my dad today and then my sister died 3 hours after the funeral ended. I really have no words.

Be safe, say the things you need to say before it's too late and really just stay the f*** away from COVID-19.
I'm truly shit at giving condolences and generally being much of an emotional person at all. Hoping for the best going forward for you man, really no other way that i know how to put it.
 

TheOllieC

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Really sorry to hear this Robo. I can't even imagine. Hoping you can find some light somewhere to help you hang in there.

At the very least, you certainly have all of us if you need to talk. It's true, a lot of us refuse to log off even when we should.
 

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I'm truly shit at giving condolences and generally being much of an emotional person at all. Hoping for the best going forward for you man, really no other way that i know how to put it.
Nobody is good at giving condolences. Eloquent words are wasted during times like this, nothing anybody can say will bring back Robo's loved ones. The best thing you can do is be there for somebody.


And we're here for you, brother. Stay strong.
 

MrazeksVengeance

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Covid will never be eradicated like Polio was, simply due to the fact that coronaviruses are extremely prone to mutating. In fact, scientists are already questioning if the vaccine deployment forced mutation earlier than it would have normally done so with no vaccine.
I am GONNA GO ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY BECAUSE IT GOT SO FU^KING WIDESPREAD.
 
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MrazeksVengeance

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I have been off for some time and seeing this thread... was heartwrenching.
I wish I didn't know what it's like to lose Dad to COVID. I can't even imagine what's it like to lose a sister as well.
May your family find peace.
 

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Covid will never be eradicated like Polio was, simply due to the fact that coronaviruses are extremely prone to mutating. In fact, scientists are already questioning if the vaccine deployment forced mutation earlier than it would have normally done so with no vaccine.

I've read this statement before in other places and have always been perplexed by it as it makes no sense from a timeline POV.

Alpha variant: Earliest documented samples: Sept 2020 in UK
Beta variant: Earliest documented samples: May 2020 in South Africa
Gamma variant: Earliest documented samples: Nov 2020 in Brazil
Delta variant: Earliest documented samples: Oct 2020 in India

First dose of Pfizer was given in the US in Dec. 2020, which is a later date than all of these variants and there wasn't widespread deployment of vaccines until 2021. In India, where the delta variant was first detected, they didn't even begin vaccinations until 2021. In UK, it was Dec 8, 2020. etc.. etc..
 
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Sens1Canes2

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I've read this statement before in other places and have always been perplexed by it as it makes no sense from a timeline POV.

Alpha variant: Earliest documented samples: Sept 2020 in UK
Beta variant: Earliest documented samples: May 2020 in South Africa
Gamma variant: Earliest documented samples: Nov 2020 in Brazil
Delta variant: Earliest documented samples: Oct 2020 in India

First dose of Pfizer was given in the US in Dec. 2020, which is a later date than all of these variants and there wasn't widespread deployment of vaccines until 2021. In India, where the delta variant was first detected, they didn't even begin vaccinations until 2021. In UK, it was Dec 8, 2020. etc.. etc..
That timeline seems, what’s the word I want to use … accelerated? Of course, the last 2 years have kind of just blended together so who knows.

I saw a few days ago that the WHO discouraged the US from planning for September booster shots, and part of the reasoning was that the shots would lead to more variants. Which led me to do two things…first, figuratively throw my hands up in the air and say “for f*** sakes.” And second, wonder if the WHO actually believes this, as organizations have been known to make up scary reasons for things in their zeal to produce a benevolent result (the whole Fauci debacle of “don’t wear a mask, it won’t help” episode).

All that to say…who knows? And, who knows what to believe.
 
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Boom Boom Apathy

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That timeline seems, what’s the word I want to use … accelerated? Of course, the last 2 years have kind of just blended together so who knows.

I agree the variants seem to have come quickly, but I’m no virologist so can’t comment on how abnormal that is. I’m just stating that the current variants all existed BEFORE vaccinations were deployed, so not sure how one could conclude that widespread vaccination deployment drove it. That’s what makes no sense to me.

I saw a few days ago that the WHO discouraged the US from planning for September booster shots, and part of the reasoning was that the shots would lead to more variants. Which led me to do two things…first, figuratively throw my hands up in the air and say “for f*** sakes.” And second, wonder if the WHO actually believes this, as organizations have been known to make up scary reasons for things in their zeal to produce a benevolent result (the whole Fauci debacle of “don’t wear a mask, it won’t help” episode).

All that to say…who knows? And, who knows what to believe.

Who knows (no pun intended)? I think a lot of the inconsistencies from the beginning until now is that we know more as time goes on and thus it changes our approach. Again, I’m no virologist, but as an engineer who had worked on a lot of complex technology problems in my career, I’ve seen many cases where what we thought in the early stages of a problem was not what we concluded later on.
 

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I think the world does the best it can at these things. As with any new disease/illness you learn as you go along.

Unfortunately, those organizations that should be pillars of objective science have too often become politicized. The CDC is an example here in the US, but, frankly, the FDA has really had a hard time keeping up as well.

The WHO has been marred by influence from member states throughout and lost a lot of credibility. The idea, for example, that giving booster shots here in the US will diminish supply ot impoverished nations is fairly ludicrous given that there are 4 proven vaccines and the production thereof is ramped up to the "nth" degree.

Stopping the virus's spread anywhere should always be a desirable outcome, but let's shit on the good old USA because, well, it's convenient.
 
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Ole Gil

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I've read this statement before in other places and have always been perplexed by it as it makes no sense from a timeline POV.

Alpha variant: Earliest documented samples: Sept 2020 in UK
Beta variant: Earliest documented samples: May 2020 in South Africa
Gamma variant: Earliest documented samples: Nov 2020 in Brazil
Delta variant: Earliest documented samples: Oct 2020 in India

First dose of Pfizer was given in the US in Dec. 2020, which is a later date than all of these variants and there wasn't widespread deployment of vaccines until 2021. In India, where the delta variant was first detected, they didn't even begin vaccinations until 2021. In UK, it was Dec 8, 2020. etc.. etc..

I think the idea is, if people are vaccinated, they can only get a mutation that is vaccine resistant. So the vaccine resistant variant has a whole pool of people to itself where it doesn't have to compete with Alpha/Beta/Gamma or whatever.

But overall, it's silly, because the alternative is we never bother with vaccinations and everyone gets some version of covid. Maybe the vaccine resistant one isn't dominant, but if nobody is vaccinated, that's kind of irrelevant.

I guess, maybe hypothetically, if healthy low risk people didn't get vaccinated, it would shrink the pool that allows the vaccine resistant variant to gain a foothold, which could help at risk vaccinated people stay a bit safer. But it seems like it's high enough risk for everyone that just having 80% of the population getting the virus no defense would cause more damage.
 
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