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MinJaBen

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Preliminarily it looks like I'm going to lose one of my aunts in the near future.. Florida Covid and Cancer.. Which one will kill her I honestly don't know. Mom's down there now not sure if she brought her other sister I'll find out tonight. But yeah F Cancer and F COVID.

Well back to the grind and taking my mind of that.

I'm sorry to hear about your aunt. I hope your family finds some peace.
 

Sens1Canes2

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As will the new excuses from those individuals who said they were "just waiting for it to be FDA approved" because that's all it ever was, an easy excuse.

But this is ultimately good if it starts driving vaccination requirements for public settings. You can only ride the bike with training wheels for so long. Have to start excluding those who choose not to be responsible members of society.
Hate it hate it hate it.

Because it will never just go away…Covid, the vaccines, nor the mandates. “Oh it’s just for now….”

“There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.”
 
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Hate it hate it hate it.

Because it will never just go away…Covid, the vaccines, nor the mandates. “Oh it’s just for now….”

“There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.”

If you've spooked yourself into being this fearful of public health/the government surprisingly doing its actual job once in a while, there's nothing I can say on a hockey forum to change your perspective.

We'll get back to the government helping making rich people richer, doing nothing to improve the living conditions of most, and cutting social safety nets even further, very soon I'm sure. Try to hang in there until then.
 

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If you've spooked yourself into being this fearful of public health/the government surprisingly doing its actual job once in a while, there's nothing I can say on a hockey forum to change your perspective.

We'll get back to the government helping making rich people richer, doing nothing to improve the living conditions of most, and cutting social safety nets even further, very soon I'm sure. Try to hang in there until then.
I just think it’s a really bad idea.

Nothing spooky about it, just a general erosion of the way we do things and a “progression” into a different way.

I prefer the former.
 
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If you've spooked yourself into being this fearful of public health/the government surprisingly doing its actual job once in a while, there's nothing I can say on a hockey forum to change your perspective.

We'll get back to the government helping making rich people richer, doing nothing to improve the living conditions of most, and cutting social safety nets even further, very soon I'm sure. Try to hang in there until then.

Look at what is happening in Australia, and get back to me on this. That can very easily happen here.
 
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Preliminarily it looks like I'm going to lose one of my aunts in the near future.. Florida Covid and Cancer.. Which one will kill her I honestly don't know. Mom's down there now not sure if she brought her other sister I'll find out tonight. But yeah F Cancer and F COVID.

Well back to the grind and taking my mind of that.
Stinks. Hoping your mom and all are vaxxed and stay well.
 

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Stinks. Hoping your mom and all are vaxxed and stay well.
Moms vaxxed my Aunt well I'd bet no... but (I could be wrong) But I honestly don't know which is killing her and it maybe that one will beat the other to it.. I didn't get many of the details when she stated she had to go there.. (Jacksonville) Hopefully when calling her tonight I'll get more.. but I expect it t o be glossed over.. Just sad that if it happens out of my blood aunt / uncles I'll have only 1 of each left. Out of 7..total. Course both my parents were amongst the youngest kids of their parents..
 

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Preliminarily it looks like I'm going to lose one of my aunts in the near future.. Florida Covid and Cancer.. Which one will kill her I honestly don't know. Mom's down there now not sure if she brought her other sister I'll find out tonight. But yeah F Cancer and F COVID.

Well back to the grind and taking my mind of that.
So sorry to hear.....keeping good thoughts for your Aunt and family.
 
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I just think it’s a really bad idea.

Nothing spooky about it, just a general erosion of the way we do things and a “progression” into a different way.

I prefer the former.

You know why nobody gets polio anymore? Because schools mandated vaccination against it in all 50 states.

I'm sorry if you feel like that disturbs your freedoms, but you lost this fight 50 years ago, and millions of people are alive and healthy that wouldn't otherwise be as a result.

So I guess you'll have to suck it up.
 

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You know why nobody gets polio anymore? Because schools mandated vaccination against it in all 50 states.

I'm sorry if you feel like that disturbs your freedoms, but you lost this fight 50 years ago, and millions of people are alive and healthy that wouldn't otherwise be as a result.

So I guess you'll have to suck it up.
I’ll have my “I told you so” in my back pocket ready to go.

There’s no better feeling. :)
 

Lempo

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If you've spooked yourself into being this fearful of public health/the government surprisingly doing its actual job once in a while, there's nothing I can say on a hockey forum to change your perspective.

We'll get back to the government helping making rich people richer, doing nothing to improve the living conditions of most, and cutting social safety nets even further, very soon I'm sure. Try to hang in there until then.
This is not helping now at all you know. "Yeah we all know they do this stuff in the paragraph B all the time. But dude, they like paused doing that now for time being and this time are only thinking the best for us all."
 

Sens1Canes2

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What do you think will happen that will allow you to whip out your “I told you so”?
You're gonna tell me so about what, exactly? That the Big Scary Government is gonna make that everyone get vaccines? Good. That's what I f***ing want, because that's what makes them work.
They kinda work (see Israel). And they’ll continue to kinda work. Heavily vaccinated, heavily masked (correct me if I’m wrong) country seeing a really really bad uptick in infections and hospitalizations.

Look…I got a shot in June. It’s time to move forward. Fewer restrictions, for everyone. People have had plenty of time to make their choice. And that’s what it is…a choice.

Again, just my opinion.
 

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The problem with framing it as a “choice” is that the consequences aren’t just your own. Eat all the hamburgers you want and have a heart attack…I don’t care, that’s your problem. But if your hamburger eating gives me the heart attack, then I care.
 

TheOllieC

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This is not helping now at all you know. "Yeah we all know they do this stuff in the paragraph B all the time. But dude, they like paused doing that now for time being and this time are only thinking the best for us all."

I know - we all know it never stops. It's just funny to see the overreaction to something ultimately positive being done that might somewhat improve the everyday societal conditions and tragedy that the virus has created over the past year and a half.

People love when the government does nothing to actually improve their lives because they've been convinced it will be George Orville 1948 if they get some free healthcare or more than three stimulus checks.
 

Lempo

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So I went to the local Lidl and bought myself a pizza. I have now eaten it. My lips are burning. It's inside me, and in near future it will be coming out. I fear I have done a mistake.
 
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The problem with framing it as a “choice” is that the consequences aren’t just your own. Eat all the hamburgers you want and have a heart attack…I don’t care, that’s your problem. But if your hamburger eating gives me the heart attack, then I care.

I will get banned for mentioning this, but given the language that’s been brought up…

…it’s worth noting that the popular arguments for not getting the vaccine and the arguments for abortion are so similar in substance (“my body my choice, regardless of what the consequences mean for others”, I can go deeper but won’t) that it is almost certainly a logical inconsistency to hold one but not the other…

…and yet if you were to a demographic view of the US - both parties probably heavily lean towards one but not the other. US Politics, everyone.
 
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Friend of mine was perfectly fine on Friday and In ICU on a vent by Sunday. Non smoker , fit no high risk but no shot...
 

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Preliminarily it looks like I'm going to lose one of my aunts in the near future.. Florida Covid and Cancer.. Which one will kill her I honestly don't know. Mom's down there now not sure if she brought her other sister I'll find out tonight. But yeah F Cancer and F COVID.

Well back to the grind and taking my mind of that.
I’m so sorry. Both Cancer and COVID f***ing suck.
 
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Navin R Slavin

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The problem with framing it as a “choice” is that the consequences aren’t just your own. Eat all the hamburgers you want and have a heart attack…I don’t care, that’s your problem. But if your hamburger eating gives me the heart attack, then I care.

Exactly this.

Look, we talk about our liberties, and that's fine, but COVID has killed 600k+ people, including immediate family members from multiple people on this board. There's a reason that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" are in that order in the Declaration. Your right to liberty does not come before someone else's right to life, and when they are in conflict, life comes first.

And of course vaccines work. Even if they don't work forever and immunity wanes, the incidence of serious disease is still lower, and boosters, which we will be fortunate enough to have when the time comes, will still protect, according to all the data we have.

If 600k+ people were dead from terrorist attacks, we'd be having a very different discussion about liberties, I am certain of that.

Anyway. We won't get anywhere with this discussion. If we end up with two Americas, one in which people vaccinate and mask in public and one in which people don't do that, I'll choose to live in mine, and you can choose to live in yours.
 
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Daeavorn

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Covid will never be eradicated like Polio was, simply due to the fact that coronaviruses are extremely prone to mutating. In fact, scientists are already questioning if the vaccine deployment forced mutation earlier than it would have normally done so with no vaccine.
 
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