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Dude who calls it the Wuhan flu educating others on propaganda lolololol!

Any other lines Rush/Hannity want you to push?
Another Political Troll?

Virus / Diseases have historically been cited from where they were first found.

Marburg Virus, Hong Kong Flu, Ebola Virus, Lyme Disease, and Wuhan Flu. Lyme disease is from Lyme Connecticut.

Nothing is wrong with any of these names unless you are a politically motivated to think that.
 
This makes absolutely zero sense. You realize that diseases are commonly referred to by where they came from or were suspected of coming from? If Ebola hits next year will Chris Hayes say its racist to call it that? Even though it’s called that because it was discovered near the Ebola river

This is just such an insane and typical lame reach to just make literally everything and everyone racist. MSNBC and CNN regularly called it the Wuhan virus until the pundits on those networks like Hayes decided to add it to the “That’s Racist” lineup.

Another Political Troll?

Virus / Diseases have historically been cited from where they were first found.

Marburg Virus, Hong Kong Flu, Ebola Virus, Lyme Disease, and Wuhan Flu. Lyme disease is from Lyme Connecticut.

Nothing is wrong with any of these names unless you are a politically motivated to think that.

Seems I've found the line you've been fed.
 
Can't we just agree that all politicians suck?

Trying to find some common ground here.

Nothing about any of this should be political but that's where some feel like they need to take it. I am trying to provide facts and data to discuss this.

We as Americans should all be completely pissed off at China. They caused ALL of this. We should all be banding together now but that's clearly not what is going to take place. Sadly.
 
Here is the the thing. Pandemics will never completely go away. Viruses are alive. They mutate in order to survive. When we as humans, and as their hosts, figure out a way to kill them, they adapt as a species and mutate. The coronavirus appears to be more virulent than other recent viruses from the flu family. More people are going to catch it, and it will spread. It appears to have the most severe effects among the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. If you are young (under 60) and healthy, you may get very sick, but the chances of you dying are very slim (less than 1%). In fact, it is most likely you will have a mild case of flu-like symptoms. Strong immune systems seem to be very capable of fighting this virus, and that's a good thing because antibodies are being created in our bodies which will kill it off at some point. Not enough hosts to infect and a virus dies out.

Don't believe all the death rate statistics that are being floated out their, because all anyone knows is the number of deaths (the numerator), and no one has a clue about the denominator (the number of people who have contracted the virus). Remember many people who had no symptoms, or only mild symptoms (cough with no fever for example) will never be tested.

The best course of action is for your loved ones who are elderly, or have an immune system that is compromised to self-isolate. Help them out by running their errands for them, etc. I chewed my own Mom out today (she is 79) for going to the grocery store and post office unnecessarily. I don't live in the same city, but I have cousins living near her that have already volunteered to get her groceries, etc.

...and for god's sake people knock it off with hoarding toilet paper. Can you eat toilet paper? Stop hoarding stuff and there is plenty to go around.
 
Competence eh, how about answering this question:

Was Obama incompetent when he waited 4 moths to formally act with H1N1 from when the WHO Pandemic issued no June 11 2009 -
after 1000 Americans had already died?

While you say that Trump is incompetent after he enacted a National Emergency within weeks acted within weeks of the WHO issuing an Emergency Notice on March 12 after 40 American had died?

I never heard any of that back then and this Administration moved within days not months.

You're being politically motivated and you can't or wont admit it.
You gotta get your head out of Sean hannity's ass.. here's from factcheck.org regarding Obama's response.
Trump’s H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic Spin

"Contrary to Trump’s suggestion that the Obama administration did “nothing,” officials declared a public health emergency early in the H1N1 outbreak, secured funding from Congress and ultimately declared a national emergency, as we’ll explain below. "
 
I'm telling you people bidet/toilet combos, that's the answer.

In large parts of the rest of the world they use an improvised bidet of sorts. It is a wash bucket outside of the "toilets" that you use AFTER you defecate to "clean" your wiping hand. Being overseas is so damned adventurous.
 
You gotta get your head out of Sean hannity's ass.. here's from factcheck.org regarding Obama's response.
Trump’s H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic Spin

"Contrary to Trump’s suggestion that the Obama administration did “nothing,” officials declared a public health emergency early in the H1N1 outbreak, secured funding from Congress and ultimately declared a national emergency, as we’ll explain below. "


Wait, you are using "fact"check .org as a site for factual information? I think that is where the problem starts.:thumbu:
 
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In large parts of the rest of the world they use an improvised bidet of sorts. It is a wash bucket outside of the "toilets" that you use AFTER you defecate to "clean" your wiping hand. Being overseas is so damned adventurous.
Um yeah, we can do better than a contaminated bucket of water.
 
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China hid more shit than anyone knows. We still do not have any clue about the real facts and data to be able to understand the Wuhan Flu, real hard data not Propaganda bullshit. Yeah we know there was something going on but the completely made secret the facts. Medical facts that Drs can use to make decisions about. We don't know where it really started or how because they are not sharing any of that. They wouldn't even let their own Drs discuss it or tell their own citizens about it. They threatened the Dr who began talking about it and made him retract his statements to shut up until he finally died from it. Reporta that in Wuhan crematorium alone they were running their ovens 24/7 with 1200 per day being cremated - so we have zero actual clue about the real number of deaths there. IMO its not out of the realm of possibility that's its a bio-weapon that got out of their lab somehow.

If you don't believe this then you aren't reviewing the real facts.

China hid the severity of its coronavirus outbreak and muzzled whistleblowers — because it can

Coronavirus Death Smog: Is China Burning Thousands of Infected Bodies?

As of January 28 we still hadn't been allowed to have a US Expert Medical Team inside their country to get facts and help. Out top Government Medical Leaders had to operate blind from any facts as they worked thru what to do based on what we could tell from the little we had as far as facts & data. Fvck China to hell, they could have helped up prevent it here and they didn't.

The U.S. is trying to get front-line public health experts into China so the new, fast-moving pathogen can be better understood. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said he has repeatedly raised that possibility with Chinese officials for weeks and is hopeful a U.S. team will be let in.

U.S. Widens Virus Travel Scans, Seeks Entry to Outbreak Zone

I was referring more to the fact that the virus was known, but those links you provided are great and it's not hard to believe that a nation with China's history of censorship and questionable human rights would hide these types of things, so thank you for that. When I said "they didn't hide shit" I should have said they didn't hide the existence of the virus, so my bad there. I would expect though that a nation such as ours, given the intelligence resources we have, to know that if they're c***b***ck us that red flags should be raised and appropriate action be taken.

Competence eh, how about answering this question:

Was Obama incompetent when he waited 4 moths to formally act with H1N1 from when the WHO Pandemic issued no June 11 2009 -
after 1000 Americans had already died?

While you say that Trump is incompetent after he enacted a National Emergency within weeks acted within weeks of the WHO issuing an Emergency Notice on March 12 after 40 American had died?

I never heard any of that back then and this Administration moved within days not months.

You're being politically motivated and you can't or wont admit it.

But the things is who cares? Obama isn't in office anymore, and the justification that "that last guy shit in your mouth so it's not that big of a deal that the current guy is shitting on your chest" is not exactly giving me the warm fuzzies.

No politician should be trusted ever. They're all liars and self serving assclowns in one way or another, but the most offensive thing to me about the current administration is that they don't even bother to hide the lies and the bullshit. They're doing it right in front of our eyes and the American public is either too stupid or too apathetic to care. Not sure which is worse honestly. The Obama administration made many mistakes in 8 years. That is a certainty, but pointing that out is not helping anyone today, and shouldn't we be hoping for more going forward?

Anyway this whole thing sucks and I think we can all agree that the sooner we are able to get back to talking hockey, for all the reasons that would mean, the better.
 
I am afraid that I am too panicked to talk hockey right now. I mean the world is ending all around us we all likely have the dreaded virus to end all viruses so hockey is the last thing on my mind. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!! I can't wait for the draft (ahem, assigned drafting position because there really isn't a fair and even lottery) "lottery" so we can see who we will draft at the 7th slot. We seem to be the only team that gets screwed every year (I know) for beating the troll who is commissioner's team for our second cup and he doesn't skip a chance at screwing us whenever he can so we will drop 3 spots again this year. I still think we will end up drafting a solid player though.
 
I'm starting to think this is getting a little bit out of hand. So I'm going to post the rules from the COVID-19 forum and applying it here. I'm not going to delete any current posts *YET*, but if it goes the way that I see that its going I will. I don't want to see any Trump vs Obama shit. Stick to relevant facts about COVID-19.

Here's another draft
Welcome to the COVID-10 Forum. This is going to be an all consuming subject for some time. We think it deserves its own forum.

This forum is not limited to hockey-related talk.

You may critique the response of government but don't make it political. Posts attributing motives because it involves this or that political party/politician/ideology will not be tolerated.

Examples:
Allowed: Trump doesn't know what he's doing, the response was too little too late
Not Allowed: the only reason the response was so slow was to keep the stock prices high so he can get reelected
Allowed: "The media is overreporting this and it's going to make things worse"
Not Allowed: "The liberal media is overreporting this because they're trying to bring down Trump"


Miracle cures, home remedies, and medical advice should not be posted.

How you're preparing, how this is affecting your community, news and information are the types of discussion this forum is for.
 
I'm telling you people bidet/toilet combos, that's the answer.

I suppose youtube or some shit (pun intended) could answer this question for me, but I've never really understood the bidet. No amount of water squirting up my ass is going to sufficiently get the situation clean without some friction, and then you're left standing up with shitty water dripping down your leg.

Um yeah, we can do better than a contaminated bucket of water.

Can we? I'm not certain anymore.
 
In the spirit of lightening shit up around here...

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I suppose youtube or some shit (pun intended) could answer this question for me, but I've never really understood the bidet. No amount of water squirting up my ass is going to sufficiently get the situation clean without some friction, and then you're left standing up with shitty water dripping down your leg.



Can we? I'm not certain anymore.
Honestly bud, bidets work. The water is under fairly decent pressure and when you're done it takes a lot less paper to dry your bum. If you got shit on your hand would you just wipe it with a tissue, or would you wash your hand?
 
America needs this test kits right away. It takes a week to see symptoms so we're behind the 8 ball.

I heard an expert on npr saying that the travel ban is not really that effective. He said it's like closing the door when the burglar is already in the house.
 
Honestly bud, bidets work. The water is under fairly decent pressure and when you're done it takes a lot less paper to dry your bum. If you got shit on your hand would you just wipe it with a tissue, or would you wash your hand?

Not gonna lie, thought the same thing as bandit before I tried. But I’m completely sold, when I eventually pull the trigger on a place, getting one in the master bath for sure.

Bandit, there are also many different “types”, in Brazil it was like a shower head next to the toilet, and you can aim and clean everywhere...

in Japan just a nozel below the seat that you had to adjust a little to “hit the sweet spot”. Also, heated is a very nice luxury as well, ice cold kinda shocks you.
 
Just out of curiosity, are Staples employees paid during this time? Saw that Calgary's not paying their part-time employees
 
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