Perron suspended 6 games for crosscheck to the face on Zub - Mod warning Post #590

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JD1

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Idk.

The refs called it 5 minutes to give themselves an opportunity to review it. After an extensive review they deemed Joseph's actions worth two minutes. And a rather level headed, cooled off Wings coach said in his presser the refs got it right and explained it well.

I can't see Joseph getting anything. I doubt the league even looks at it.

Perron on the other hand is going to get a vacation
 

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That looks like your everyday net front shoving contest. Joseph just shoves Larkin's head down as his arms are already high and Larkin is hunching down to reach the puck. At the same time Kelly coming in looking to shove Larkin ends up punching him in the face as a result of Joseph's shove. That's as much intent to injure as basically any other net front battle.

Perron on the other hand is retaliating an unlucky regular play after the whistle. I appreciate players sticking up for their teammates, but cross-checking someone to the face who had nothing to do with the incident, waving for trainers is a "notch" above reasonable in my eyes. That's dirty.

There's probably dozens of similar plays every night, but when once one of them leads to an unintentional injury, then it's suddenly so god damn dirty? Am I missing something here?
 

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Only thing wrong about the cross-check was the recipient.

That’s kind of a major component of cross-checking someone in the face.

It’s probably the most important element : the identity of the recipient.

“Only thing wrong with giving that guy the electric chair is that it was the wrong guy.”
 

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Kadri got an ambiguous rest of the series suspension. I'd imagine Perron will get an ambiguous rest of the season suspension.

Spezza got what? 6 games? Bunting 3 playoff games, so 6 regular season games.

I imagine Parros will keep that line of thinking.
 

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Hopefully a good five games.

But am I alone to think that some of the other players on both teams looked completely stupid afterward, creating a mini-scrum right next to an unconscious, injured player? Wtf were they thinking? It's not the time to fight when someone's life might be at risk right next to you and you might accidentally fall or trip on him.
 

NyQuil

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Hopefully a good five games.

But am I alone to think that some of the other players on both teams looked completely stupid afterward, creating a mini-scrum right next to an unconscious, injured player? Wtf were they thinking? It's not the time to fight when someone's life might be at risk right next to you and you might accidentally fall or trip on him.

The irony is that this is what Zub was trying to do.

Detroit is like a petulant toddler that lashes out ineffectively without thinking.
 

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Unfortunate they got the wrong guy. But, Joseph should have gotten a crosscheck to the chin just like the one he gave Larkin.

Gutless play by Joseph. He needs to answer for it. His teammate did instead. All on him.

You realize he got hurt from hitting Kelly after being shoved from behind?

It's a freak accident. Both guys kinda sandwiched him while they covered him infront of the net.

Perron deliberately skated to someone to cross check them in the chin.

The 2 are not the same.
 
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It was intentional and dirty...

I get seeing the face of your franchise appearing dead on the ice and the immediate need to react, but, everything about how he did was wrong ..

They should have fought every single player on the team after every whistle...that would have been acceptable...

He deserves 5
 
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That looks like your everyday net front shoving contest. Joseph just shoves Larkin's head down as his arms are already high and Larkin is hunching down to reach the puck. At the same time Kelly coming in looking to shove Larkin ends up punching him in the face as a result of Joseph's shove. That's as much intent to injure as basically any other net front battle.

Perron on the other hand is retaliating an unlucky regular play after the whistle. I appreciate players sticking up for their teammates, but cross-checking someone to the face who had nothing to do with the incident, waving for trainers is a "notch" above reasonable in my eyes. That's dirty.

There's probably dozens of similar plays every night, but when once one of them leads to an unintentional injury, then it's suddenly so god damn dirty? Am I missing something here?

How are people saying Joseph cross checked anyone when he clearly has only one hand on his stick.
 

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Alternate angles please.
Ya the one where you can see all the faces is the best one, hasn’t been posted yet on these first 2 pages.
Refs got the calls right.
About 5 games for Perron, wouldn’t be surprised if more and an in person hearing. Perron better keep his head next game they play the Senators.
 
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The Perron crosscheck was gutless, brutal, and the kind of clear, intent to injure, play the league should absolutely bring the hammer down on. I can't imagine it happens, but I'd have NO issue with ten games even. It was unambiguous chickenshit and dirty.

I was watching the game and in-game I genuinely wondered whether Larkin just collapsed. It was really scary, there was a scrum in front of the net and all of a sudden he's out cold, and face down. Watching the replay, he gets it a bit up high from Joseph (which people can debate the greasiness of) but he gets knocked out falling into Kelly. No issue with the roughing calls on those, but they're on a completely different planet than what Perron did.
 
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Should easily be 3-5 games, if he had a history it would be even longer.

I understand why Perron was heated, but that’s downright unacceptable behavior. Larkin got hurt by a freak accident and Perron went after someone who wasn’t even involved in it.
Second time the same guy has been involved with Larkin.

Perron should face discipline. Probably three to five games I agree with that logic.

We can call it an accident but this is the second time Joseph has done stick work to a bad level to Larks, he doesn’t get a pass for me. The league can let him go I would make him fight the entire fourth line in the next five games we play against him though. This scrub needs to be more careful around our franchise player.

I can hear the argument for more games on Perron because as you said he got the wrong guy on top of something egregious. I would expect five games, but I think the dressing room is tired of seeing Larkin be on the business end of some pretty awful stuff the last few years.
 
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Joseph hits Larkin in the head, as Larkin is going down Kelly buttends him in the jaw. You can see it at the 4-5 second mark in the OP video. Keep your eye on 27, he is the one who knocked Larkin out.
Yup. Def don't think Kelly was trying to hit him in the head and that's mostly a result of Joseph being a POS and punching Larkin in the back of the head and he falls awkwardly into a cross check that was going to hit Larkin mid body.

What a shit show. Perron is an absolute blockhead for cross checking the wrong guy in the head.

This is why last week or so I had no issue with Brendan Smith snapping and two handing someone in the arm for cross checking him from behind during a line change when neither he or the guy cross checking him were near the puck.
 

ChurchOfAlfie

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Giroux also tries to prevent the scrum from reaching Larkin on the ice. Haven't seen his role mentioned here yet.

Damn, watching it again this morning, Giroux's actions are even more impressive. He's not on the ice when the original incident happens; he jumps on to escort Detroit's trainer there as fast as possible. You can see it at the 16-17 second mark of this vid.

After that he protects Larkin from the scrum.

 

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Second time the same guy has been involved with Larkin.

Perron should face discipline. Probably three to five games I agree with that logic.

We can call it an accident but this is the second time Joseph has done stick work to a bad level to Larks, he doesn’t get a pass for me. The league can let him go I would make him fight the entire fourth line in the next five games we play against him though. This scrub needs to be more careful around our franchise player.

I can hear the argument for more games on Perron because as you said he got the wrong guy on top of something egregious. I would expect five games, but I think the dressing room is tired of seeing Larkin be on the business end of some pretty awful stuff the last few years.
Watch the front angle. I don’t believe he hits him with his stick. It’s a one handed shove trying to clear the crease.
 
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Gregor Samsa

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Ratioed? I asked for 'proof' earlier in the thread and never got it from the Wings side. Here it is. Proof is in the pudding.

What a strange play and I would have no clue what happened if it wasn’t for this slow motion replay

Honestly, Larkin’s injury looks like a freak play. If you want to give Joseph a couple mins, fine but I don’t think it was malicious, just a typical net front clearing. Players were just in the wrong place at the wrong time

Perron, on the other hand, should get a pretty hefty suspension.
 
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