How do you fix the Wings?

[Bench]

Zadorov heading to UFA. How do we feel about that big boy?

 

[datsyukfan]

Zadorov heading to UFA. How do we feel about that big boy?

Stay away, not interested at all

 

[Bench]

Stay away, not interested at all

Because? I don't really care, I'm just curious.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Because? I don't really care, I'm just curious.

He's a big oaf who will be overpaid. He's a 3rd pairing guy who someone will pay 5+ million.

 

[jkutswings]

He's a big oaf who will be overpaid. He's a 3rd pairing guy who someone will pay 5+ million.

This. I'd be fine with paying him what he deserves. But he's exactly the type of player that will get closer to double their worth in free agency.

 

[ZDH]

All 6 O6 teams are very interested in Zadorov according to TSN just now.

 

[datsyukfan]

All 6 O6 teams are very interested in Zadorov according to TSN just now.

I really don’t like the idea of zadorov. They also said red wings are front runner for Kane

 

[Henkka]

I really don’t like the idea of zadorov. They also said red wings are front runner for Kane

Don't think at all we are after him. We don't need extra lefty.

Physical or another way solid RHD vet is the target.

 

[lilidk]

Yzerman needs to strike big and get #1 defansman for this team.all this guys Zadorov , Trouba, Walman are secondary guys. Somehow he should get guy like Warensky or Josi

 

[Henkka]

Yzerman needs to strike big and get #1 defansman for this team.all this guys Zadorov , Trouba, Walman are secondary guys. Somehow he should get guy like Warensky or Josi

What are you smoking.?

We have Seider as 1D.

Of course, having two 1Ds would be nice.

Edvinsson will grow to be the 2D.

We just need solid vets to surround them.

 

[lilidk]

Kronwall played with Lidstrom , Larkin played with Both Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Now Seider have never played with anyone better than him in NHL. That's what I am smoking about.

 

[norrisnick]

Kronwall played with Lidstrom , Larkin played with Both Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Now Seider have never played with anyone better than him in NHL. That's what I am smoking about.

Trading for Werenski or Josi won't change that. Defensively anyway...

 

[Pavels Dog]

Every other teams young players are also getting better. If that’s the plan, it won’t be enough.

Ottawa will get growth from Stutzle and Sanderson, plus Tkachuk is still very young. Actually their whole core is very young.

Buffalo will see improvements from Dahlin, Power, Cozens, Quinn, etc

MTL looking at Slaf becoming a true threat, Mailloux, Hutson, etc

and that is just our own division

Who are the young up and comers in Tampa? Boston? Toronto? Florida? And that is just our own division.

If we're assuming none of our prospects will pan out as anything more than "every other team", what are we even doing in a rebuild? Ottawa/Buffalo/MTL should have comparable young talent because they are also deep in rebuilds, but those aren't the teams we're trying to overtake.

 

[RedHawkDown]

We have to get better than the other rebuilding teams we’re competing with…

Who are the young up and comers in Tampa? Boston? Toronto? Florida? And that is just our own division.

If we're assuming none of our prospects will pan out as anything more than "every other team", what are we even doing in a rebuild? Ottawa/Buffalo/MTL should have comparable young talent because they are also deep in rebuilds, but those aren't the teams we're trying to overtake.

 

[Pavels Dog]

We have to get better than the other rebuilding teams we’re competing with…

Didn't we mostly compete against Washington, Tampa, Pittsburgh etc. this season? I don't remember much noise from Buffalo, Montreal or Ottawa in the playoff race.

Bottom line though is that there's a reality where ~5 years from now Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal and Ottawa are perennial playoff teams in the Atlantic. And it wouldn't even be that surprising or historically unheard of. Obsessing about where we are in the pecking order is something that's more important once the foundation is in place, we shouldn't do reactionary moves.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Didn't we mostly compete against Washington, Tampa, Pittsburgh etc. this season? I don't remember much noise from Buffalo, Montreal or Ottawa in the playoff race.

Bottom line though is that there's a reality where ~5 years from now Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal and Ottawa are perennial playoff teams in the Atlantic. And it wouldn't even be that surprising or historically unheard of. Obsessing about where we are in the pecking order is something that's more important once the foundation is in place, we shouldn't do reactionary moves.

Are we repeating the 2023/24 season?

What was done this year matters 0% now

 

[Pavels Dog]

Are we repeating the 2023/24 season?

What was done this year matters 0% now

So why are we assuming magical improvements from nowhere for the other teams?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

So why are we assuming magical improvements from nowhere for the other teams?

I assume it was in reference to Ullmark to Ottawa

 

[Oddbob]

Because? I don't really care, I'm just curious.

He wants 6x6 when is he worth about 4.5 per year at most. He doesn't log enough minutes to be getting more than 5. I like his game, but not the ask.

 

[Henkka]

Because there's no open trade-speculation thread, I'll post this in here.

Wife’s hospital residency among factors keeping Jacob Trouba with Rangers

The captain of the New York Rangers is Jacob Trouba and may very well remain so for the foreseeable future.

nypost.com

Seems to be that all possible Trouba-deals were delayed by a year.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Because there's no open trade-speculation thread, I'll post this in here.

Wife’s hospital residency among factors keeping Jacob Trouba with Rangers

The captain of the New York Rangers is Jacob Trouba and may very well remain so for the foreseeable future.

nypost.com

Seems to be that all possible Trouba-deals were delayed by a year.

Brooks oughtta be ashamed of himself.

Why on Earth are you dumping the responsibility of the trade not happening onto Mrs. Trouba?

Also… while I commend Jacob’s decision.. this shows that Drury doesn’t want to make tough decisions

Also… I can tell you guys how I wouldn’t fix the Wings. By signing Sheldon Dries and Joe Snively on day one of FA.

 

[Henkka]

Also… I can tell you guys how I wouldn’t fix the Wings. By signing Sheldon Dries and Joe Snively on day one of FA.

Yeah... they are new vets for Grand Rapids. And either could be some call-up bench veteran.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Yeah... they are new vets for Grand Rapids. And either could be some call-up bench veteran.

Which is what you sign on July 15th or August 8th or something like that. You don't take up prime time real estate on the first day of free agency when you could be swinging a deal to steal someone's asset so they can chase a big fish to sign these guys who, if they EVER play in Detroit, will literally only do so because you're 30 points out of the playoffs and are dumping guys.

 

[Henkka]

Which is what you sign on July 15th or August 8th or something like that. You don't take up prime time real estate on the first day of free agency when you could be swinging a deal to steal someone's asset so they can chase a big fish to sign these guys who, if they EVER play in Detroit, will literally only do so because you're 30 points out of the playoffs and are dumping guys.

Think I already answered for this on the another thread.

But the best AHL guys are gone on the first day of free agency. Just like best NHL UFAs. Everyone is offering the same NHL-minimum etc. You have to be first there picking the best fits on your AHL team.

You can have guys later yeah... , but they are not the same you want on the 1st day.

Joe Snively is a great current AHL-Champion, dominant Hershey's best scorer, and 2nd best playoff scorer. Don't sell that guy short.

They want Griffins to win.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

We got to try to move Copp, Holl and Chiarot. I doubt it though.