Speculation: How do the Dallas Stars spend 10 million in cap space?

[Ledge And Dairy]

Bourque is looking like a dud. No reason or incentive for Calgary to take him on as a main piece.

Huh? I get if you think Stankoven may have boosted his stats in the AHL last year a bit but he still lead the league in points and won the MVP. He's also a RHS center and under 25. Pretty much exactly what Calgary is looking for.

Who plays netfront on the Stars powerplay now that Pavs is gone? Benn? Flames could definitely package in Kuzmenko who's a great netfront guy.

 

[Armourboy]

I'm going to assume Trotz is going to start unloading guys sooner rather than later. Supposedly he is going to wait til Christmas to make a decision but I don't think it will take that long.

They aren't super stars but depending on what teams need they could be relatively cheap additions that you could stack with other players.

Nyquist and Sissons I think will likely get moved and then I think guys like Novak, Carrier, and Marchessault would also be available if they waived. The later group has multiple years though so not real sure how many teams would take a stab at them to start with.

Obviously I would move Stamkos, but something tells me he would only waive for Tampa and I don't think they are that silly, even retained.

Lauzon should be moved but Trotz and Brunette seem to be in a love afair with him for some unknown reason so dunno if they will. Same goes for Smith or Jankowski if you need a PK guy or just plain 4th line depth.

 

[TGWL]

NYR can retain 50% and then take Dumba lol. Not sure who's worse this season out of those two

NYR retaining on Trouba with taking back Dumba ends up around the same cap hit for the 2 contracted seasons, and only works if they can have an easier time unloading Dumba. And even then I think they would prefer to retain a little less and offer something with it.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Can I interest you in a $2M Jeff Petry?

 

[roryjones]

Bourque is looking like a dud. No reason or incentive for Calgary to take him on as a main piece.

Dud? I would not say he is a dud. If you compare him to stankoven I can see some disappointment but that is more of a testament to Stankoven’s ability than it is Bourque. They said he was a bust when he got off to a slow start his first year in the AHL. The next year he won MVP. He seems slow to adjust but when he does he will be fine. He’s also stuck on the 4th line with no PP opportunity.

I would trade him in a package for a guy like Andersson but not for someone like Kreider. I think he could headline a package for someone.

 

[MHO]

Guessing you're both being sarcastic but I'll bite.

Actually don't think he'd be a horrible shout for Dallas. I've heard some accounts from Hawks fans that he's actually playing relatively well and shows that the skill is still there sometimes.

He's playing on a dreadful offensive team so hard to judge where he's really at but on the 3rd line of a deep offensive team like Dallas he could actually excel.

Especially with the success of Duchene, Dallas probably isn't afraid of an older reclamation project.

Dallas can do a lot better than Hall however and I suspect they are aiming higher with that much free cap.

Well if Hall does go to Dallas, it's going to be even more annoying when I don't get Puckdoku right and everyone else gets him.

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

Well first, Dallas will call Vegas and ask "so since you guys are professionals at this, we have a player on LTIR and x amount of cap space, who should we go get so we're over the cap by $10m come playoff time?" haha

 

[Duffy13]

Seems like a good situation for Bryan Rust and Jesse Puljujarvi.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Seth Jones

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I mean to be fair, Seguin actually is injured. But I don't see why not keeping him on the LTIR until playoffs because all fairness to say this is honest unlike Vegas.

But that being said, I think they go after the big guys and trade away a lot of futures in order for them to retain 50%.

I see them potentially getting the biggest fish out there, maybe even Cam Fowler and Brock Nelson as well. But if I'm being honest they should try and trade for Brady Tkachuk as I believe he's just what Dallas needs and when Benn retires he's a perfect replacement. But I imagine they need cap to sign Wyatt Johnson and Stankoven.

 

[elmaco]

Seems like a good situation for Bryan Rust and Jesse Puljujarvi.

Not sure about Rust, but JP would fit right in with the Finns.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Jacob Trouba has entered the chat.

This how i would imagine Trouba entering any chat.

 

[Three On Zero]

This how i would imagine Trouba entering any chat.

Expected a Simpson meme, leaving disappointed

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Expected a Simpson meme, leaving disappointed

 

[AirGut]

Let us all be reminded, the Rick Nash 2018 trade returned:

Ryan Lindgren
Matt Beleskey
Ryan Spooner
2018 1st-round pick
2019-7th round pick

That was a 34 year old Nash as a deadline rental. If the Stars are serious about actually making a run for the Cup in the next 3 years, Christopher James Kreider will be at an all time premium for them and you get him for 3 runs.

The Stars are stacked throughout the organization, Bischel has yet to stick in the NHL and most likely won't barring injury of the main Dallas D-core. Bourque is plastered to the 4th line and has no real room to grow and is an upcoming RFA. The Rangers are about to implode and they need another 2018 styled (((((re-tool)))))). I can't understand why Stars fans would laugh at sacrificing some of the farm system depth they've accumulated throughout the past half-decade for a genuine closer chance at a real Finals run.

Kreider is having a tough go at things this season but like I said, the entire Rangers locker-room is about to snap and it can't be another firing or waiting for the next Tarasenko & Kane to fall out of the sky. There needs to be a real Hockey trade here and for the Stars Kreider would be the Pavelski replacement Nill might want. This is a guy who was a hot pistol not too long ago and he's at a really affordable price-tag. There are many teams willing to move quality to attain a player like Kreider and all these GM's saw what he did during game 6 not too long ago. Think about it Dallas fans.

 

[thefutures]

Let us all be reminded, the Rick Nash 2018 trade returned:

Ryan Lindgren
Matt Beleskey
Ryan Spooner
2018 1st-round pick
2019-7th round pick

That was a 34 year old Nash as a deadline rental. If the Stars are serious about actually making a run for the Cup in the next 3 years, Christopher James Kreider will be at an all time premium for them and you get him for 3 runs.

The Stars are stacked throughout the organization, Bischel has yet to stick in the NHL and most likely won't barring injury of the main Dallas D-core. Bourque is plastered to the 4th line and has no real room to grow and is an upcoming RFA. The Rangers are about to implode and they need another 2018 styled (((((re-tool)))))). I can't understand why Stars fans would laugh at sacrificing some of the farm system depth they've accumulated throughout the past half-decade for a genuine closer chance at a real Finals run.

Kreider is having a tough go at things this season but like I said, the entire Rangers locker-room is about to snap and it can't be another firing or waiting for the next Tarasenko & Kane to fall out of the sky. There needs to be a real Hockey trade here and for the Stars Kreider would be the Pavelski replacement Nill might want. This is a guy who was a hot pistol not too long ago and he's at a really affordable price-tag. There are many teams willing to move quality to attain a player like Kreider and all these GM's saw what he did during game 6 not too long ago. Think about it Dallas fans.

It's awful no matter how you dress up your offer

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Chris Kreider for Lian Bichsel, Mavrik Bourque, Evgeni Dadonov, and a 2025 1st round pick

You forgot to add Jim Nils children, wife and two homes. Trust me rangers are not in a position of negotiating power. You guys expecting a governmental bailout only hank Paulson and the Republicans could get away with.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Let us all be reminded, the Rick Nash 2018 trade returned:

Ryan Lindgren
Matt Beleskey
Ryan Spooner
2018 1st-round pick
2019-7th round pick

That was a 34 year old Nash as a deadline rental. If the Stars are serious about actually making a run for the Cup in the next 3 years, Christopher James Kreider will be at an all time premium for them and you get him for 3 runs.

The Stars are stacked throughout the organization, Bischel has yet to stick in the NHL and most likely won't barring injury of the main Dallas D-core. Bourque is plastered to the 4th line and has no real room to grow and is an upcoming RFA. The Rangers are about to implode and they need another 2018 styled (((((re-tool)))))). I can't understand why Stars fans would laugh at sacrificing some of the farm system depth they've accumulated throughout the past half-decade for a genuine closer chance at a real Finals run.

Kreider is having a tough go at things this season but like I said, the entire Rangers locker-room is about to snap and it can't be another firing or waiting for the next Tarasenko & Kane to fall out of the sky. There needs to be a real Hockey trade here and for the Stars Kreider would be the Pavelski replacement Nill might want. This is a guy who was a hot pistol not too long ago and he's at a really affordable price-tag. There are many teams willing to move quality to attain a player like Kreider and all these GM's saw what he did during game 6 not too long ago. Think about it Dallas fans.

Christopher James Kreider is also 33, has serious miles on his body and is on pace for his lowest PPG since entering the league. Just because a team overpaid for someone doesn't make it the standard lmao, the league has been put on notice that this is a player who is readily available, something tells me he won't return the premium you believe he will and the Stars will almost definitely be shooting for someone better than him with 10+ million in cap space.

 

[Chet Manley]

I don't know what they'll do, but I do know Canadian fans will whine about it

Nothing has happened yet and you're preemptively whining about Canadian fans reaction to it. So much projection.

 

[Zbynek]

Rumor floating around about Malkin to Dallas.

Dallas still needs help on defense though.

Best i can do is an overpriced Mikael Granlund

 

[AirGut]

Christopher James Kreider is also 33, has serious miles on his body and is on pace for his lowest PPG since entering the league. Just because a team overpaid for someone doesn't make it the standard lmao, the league has been put on notice that this is a player who is readily available, something tells me he won't return the premium you believe he will and the Stars will almost definitely be shooting for someone better than him with 10+ million in cap space.

He has 3 years left, that's 3 cracks at winning an actual Stnaley Cup, you know, the things franchises build towards? Teams have poached players off the Rangers before and have won cups. Jim Nill is smart and both he and Drury can make good trading partners. Both of these teams make too much sense on paper not to do business especially with Seguin being shelved for the playoffs. Both franchises failing to move past the CF and hungry for something more.

You give you get in this league, just because you believe Kreider's value is low because NHL 25 Franchise Mode told you doesn't mean GM's in real life do too. He's a unicorn and he's not "declining". People like you believed Pavelski was declining.

You forgot to add Jim Nils children, wife and two homes. Trust me rangers are not in a position of negotiating power. You guys expecting a governmental bailout only hank Paulson and the Republicans could get away with.

You sound schizophrenic.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

He has 3 years left, that's 3 cracks at winning an actual Stnaley Cup, you know, the things franchises build towards? Teams have poached players off the Rangers before and have won cups. Jim Nill is smart and both he and Drury can make good trading partners. Both of these teams make too much sense on paper not to do business especially with Seguin being shelved for the playoffs. Both franchises failing to move past the CF and hungry for something more.

You give you get in this league, just because you believe Kreider's value is low because NHL 25 Franchise Mode told you doesn't mean GM's in real life do too. He's a unicorn and he's not "declining". People like you believed Pavelski was declining.

Jim Nill is smart is my point - he has 10 million in cap space, there is a better allotment of salary cap space and assets than acquiring Kreider for the situation the Stars are in. Kreider is 33, and has a lot of miles on him, and I just don't think it's a coincidence that this is the lowest PPG totals he's had since his rookie season.

This isn't about NHL 25 franchise mode. Unicorns don't put up just 10 points in 21 games lmfao - if we're going to call Kreider a unicorn then there are 100+ unicorns in the NHL

 

[AirGut]

Jim Nill is smart is my point - he has 10 million in cap space, there is a better allotment of salary cap space and assets than acquiring Kreider for the situation the Stars are in. Kreider is 33, and has a lot of miles on him, and I just don't think it's a coincidence that this is the lowest PPG totals he's had since his rookie season.

This isn't about NHL 25 franchise mode. Unicorns don't put up just 10 points in 21 games lmfao - if we're going to call Kreider a unicorn then there are 100+ unicorns in the NHL

>Unicorns don't put up just 10 points in 21 games lmfao
Have you been paying attention to what's actually going on in NY this season?

 

[dirtydanglez]

give joe pavelski an offer he can't refuse.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

>Unicorns don't put up just 10 points in 21 games lmfao
Have you been paying attention to what's actually going on in NY this season?

Yes I actually have - they've just straight up collapsed recently, but the first ~10 or so games their underlying numbers looked very good which is a deviation from previous Rangers teams that were more so a product of special teams and goaltending.

Still doesn't change my point. Kreider from the past 3 seasons could've been called a unicorn - not the one we've seen this season. He'd still return a 1st +, I'm just not sure that the + is going to be nearly as heavy as some of you Rangers fans are setting it out to be.