Dreakmur
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Tony DeAngelo might be available lol.
Seriously though, Michael Bunting is a good bet. Nick Cousins would be a nice add of Nashville is rebuilding.
How can the culture be changed with Dubas still in charge?
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Tony DeAngelo might be available lol.
Seriously though, Michael Bunting is a good bet. Nick Cousins would be a nice add of Nashville is rebuilding.
The CyNick
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Well whatever they are currently reading (probably some goofy analytics) isn't working.
I would be happy if they just spent more time watching and understanding hockey.
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Yes, but by that time he wasn't Lindros, unless you mean when he refused to go to Quebec?
The CyNick
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Yes, his initial trade.
He was entering the league as the next Gretzky or Mario anyway.
That trade was a super skilled head case. The guy Quebec got back was less skilled but a warrior through and through. His name ended up on the Cup.
I would love to see both Marner and Matthews traded for guys who put up less goals/ points in the regular season but have a warrior mentality and can change the culture of the team.
Unfortunately the GM thinks hockey is won and lost on a spreadsheet, so he'll just see the stats.
I'm really hoping the leafs can bounce back this year and do damage in the playoffs. With that being said, after this season Matthews only has 2 years left with his final year having a NTC. If the leafs get knocked out early this year we have to explore trading matthews, because the leafs absolutely can lose him for nothing. If this happens the leafs need to be looking at Wright, Bedard, and Mitchkov.
ULF_55
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I would love to see one of them traded for a heavy lifter, that scares his own teammates but can play hockey.
Too late to change now, Dubas is a moron when it comes to being a GM.
We got screwed for years to come. I have stopped watching this crap for the pas 3 years or so
We got screwed for years to come. I have stopped watching this crap for the pas 3 years or so
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I think it's possible to mold Matthews if he was say dropped into the Bruins leadership group. He would shut his mouth in the room because Marchand and Bergeron are seen as the leaders. Then he would be more likely to play properly.
With both him and Marner in the same room, I think it's always going to be a failure. Also I'm not convinced that Matthews does the things in the offseason to be at peak physical condition in months 7-9 of a campaign.
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Zachary Hyman signing a ridiculous contract in Edmonton says a lot about the culture that Dubas has helped create.
Mercenaries.
…. And the fans have to suffer
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Suntouchable13
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You gotta understand the fans frustrations. This was a gutless performance in the playoffs. How are they going to get by Boston or TB next year if they can’t get by MTL?
Just gotta wait Dubas and his fan club out.
It's somehow Dubas's fault that Hyman wants to make money, he couldn't get here? I like Hyman, but the supposed term and caphit is too much.
A bunch of people who have never been in the Leafs' dressing room talking about culture. These players don't act the same in front of the cameras as they do off-camera, you guys need to realize you have no clue how much someone cares, or how hard they try and you are all just writing fan fiction as fact.
ottomaddox
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Whoa. A lot of darkness here.
I think 1 major difference is that the pressure on Shanny/Dubas to win now must be at an all time high.
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I must say though. I feel like Burke got fired for a lot less.
Dreakmur
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So it's wrong to wonder if there's a "culture" problem with a team that has just gone 0-7 when the chance to win a post season series exists? Or when your two of your three $11M players have managed 2 ES goals between them in the past 12 post season games?
Seem like reasonable reasons for concern to me.
Seem like reasonable reasons for concern to me.
I agree that the supposed term and cap hit for Hyman is too much. However, the fact that the Leafs cap situation is awful is absolutely Dubas' fault. If the cap situation was better the Leafs would at least have the option of retaining Hyman if they felt he was worth it. They don't really have a choice - they simply can't pay him what he wants while still filling out the rest of the roster.
results =/= effort.
they didn't execute, that is a fact, but the questioning of effort is strange since you have no clue.
As a noted Dubas fan, this has been a very very tough offseason for him. The Rittich deal, although made sense at the time with the uncertainty of Freddy has really been tough to swallow given the fact he only provided us 1 win. The Foligno trade retrospectively was terrible. It was always a steep price, but far more tolerable with an actual cup run. Dubas was once again let down by the players he put his neck on the line for and consequently looks like the Jackass, when really it was the players who failed. This was followed by his dumbest move I think he has ever made as the GM of the Leafs. The loss of McCann, Not the loss of "Hallander and a 7th" as people try to frame it. Protecting Holl over going 7F + 3D is inexcusable really. Its poor asset management and I just will never be convinced this was smart with Lilly waiting and ready on the right side. Now the loss of one of the hardest working players we've had in decades in Hyman. Its really just been a very tough 3 months for Dubas.
That said, Dubas has never had a bad offseason as the Leafs GM. He consistently addresses the needs of the previous years and is not afraid to shift gears and go in a different direction. Although seeing Hyman go is extremely hard, It was the right decision by Kyle 100%. That is not a contract we can have for 8 years. I really think there is something bigger that is about to happen. Kyle is very calculated. The fact that they did not hold 1 single interview for the newly acquired Jared McCann should have told us right away that they knew they'd leave him unprotected and that Seattle would select him. I would not be surprised with anything at this point. I know KD will get active in the right way, he has shown time and time again that he will have a Stanley Cup worthy roster assembled in October. I am not afraid to stand by Kyle even in this dark dark time. It will get better, I am very confident of that
That said, Dubas has never had a bad offseason as the Leafs GM. He consistently addresses the needs of the previous years and is not afraid to shift gears and go in a different direction. Although seeing Hyman go is extremely hard, It was the right decision by Kyle 100%. That is not a contract we can have for 8 years. I really think there is something bigger that is about to happen. Kyle is very calculated. The fact that they did not hold 1 single interview for the newly acquired Jared McCann should have told us right away that they knew they'd leave him unprotected and that Seattle would select him. I would not be surprised with anything at this point. I know KD will get active in the right way, he has shown time and time again that he will have a Stanley Cup worthy roster assembled in October. I am not afraid to stand by Kyle even in this dark dark time. It will get better, I am very confident of that
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