How are you feeling about Tavares these days?

cyris

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Difference being McDavid and Eichel signed for 8 year max deals, they gave their teams 3 additional seasons of term. Matthews' cap hit should've been less if he was only committing 5 years. Tavares didn't really give us some sort of deal, at that point there was no reason for Matthews and Marner to do the same.
I’m not trying to argue the benefits of the contract that Matthews is about to finish. Or that Dubas did a god job while negotiating it.

Just that 11m per season was a natural and predictable AAV and probably had nothing to do with Tavares deal.
 

Shooter2x

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Pretty bad game but he's clearly nursing something.

Sit him out a few. Playoffs more important than winning the division. I'm fine with 60% points moving forward, don't need these win streaks
 
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WTFMAN99

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If he's not 100% - sit him.

If he's 100%, he's cooked and they really gotta figure out how to get through the last year of the deal
 
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Its not your fault

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Before Tavares was signed nobody was going around saying the Leafs are weak at C, they claimed it was a strength if anything.

LIke you said - the signing was made because it was a high profile UFA who they were able to acquire, absolutely zero experts or analysts claimed the signing was done to fix a weakness at center. Anybody with half a brainstem could obviously see that the D was a bigger need to address, but there obviously wasn't any Tavares level solution on UFA to solve it.
There really havn
 

Gabriel426

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I think having 3 kids is taking a toll on him at Home.

Need to get on a road trip and JT will be scoring and playing good hockey again.
 

Jimmy Firecracker

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If he's injured or battling something the best thing he can do for the team and himself is take some time off and get his body right. If he's not injured the implications are much more dire for this franchise for this season and next.
 

hotpaws

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he might be preggers again

or

this is how bad he is when Willie or Mitch aren't carrying him , hanging around the crease/slot is shockingly ineffective when you don't have an elite player driving the play and creating offensive opportunities for you
 
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Larcos_Unal

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I’d be tempted to load manage him for 5 and see if he doesn’t come back reset and a little more fresh.

Physically, mentally he just looks cooked.
It's not even that his legs have given out, he's unable to make basic plays with the puck anymore. Really worrisome given that the extensions are kicking in next year and we'll need to revamp that D core with an $11m anchor weighing us down
 

hotpaws

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I would hope that the captain of this team, a guy with $100m in the bank, a grown ass man, would have the intelligence to hire a nanny/maid/chef to help around the house.
yeah but with inflation up , money's tight so between working around his wife's work schedule and the household chores , poor Johnny's exhausted

it's not easy being the only player married with children in the NHL
 

Gilmour1996

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Could they mutually agree to terminate his contract/retire and give him a cheque afterwards for 8M (1M x 8 years as a consultant) to pay his income tax owing?
 
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hotpaws

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Could they mutually agree to terminate his contract/retire and give him a cheque afterwards for 8M (1M x 8 years as a consultant) to pay his income tax owing?
they could simply agree that he'll retire after he collects his signing bonus this summer which would cost him only 900k before the tax he doesn't pay

problem is JT has no plans on retiring and the other problem is Johnny thinks he's an elite player and is going to make team Canada next year

he also probably thinks he'll be getting a 7/8m x 4yr offer this summer with the appropriate spin how he gave us a discount
 
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Stephen

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they could simply agree that he'll retire after he collects his signing bonus this summer which would cost him only 900k before the tax he doesn't pay

problem is JT has no plans on retiring and the other problem is Johnny thinks he's an elite player and is going to make team Canada next year

he also probably thinks he'll be getting a 7/8m x 4yr offer with the appropriate spin how he gave us a discount this summer

JT was playing at a non NHL level last night vs the Coyotes, making outrageously dangerous cut back dekes in the defensive end along the boards when he should have been clearing the puck, and then stumbling around corralling the puck defensively while under siege.

Which came off the brain dead turnover vs Vegas which put the game out of reach for Toronto.

Which followed up on the near Patrik Stefan EN vs Colorado conceding a grade A chance for Mackinnon to tie at the buzzer beater.

I just don’t get how a player of that caliber and status can crater like he has since December. We’re not even talking about a Claude Giroux who’s a little older, little slower but can still play. Every time he sneezes we hear about how professional and prepared he is, how detailed he is. I don’t see any of it.

He’s just a guy with a big reputation, big paycheque but is consistently so unpredictable and poor. If he pulled a Larry Murphy and went somewhere else and had some success, I wouldn’t mind.
 

RunItBackAgain

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Anyone got one of them equipment allergies laying around they could give him for next season? Not even sure he'd be a benefit in the bottom 6 as a LTIR add for the playoffs.
 
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Clark4Ever

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I’d be tempted to load manage him for 5 and see if he doesn’t come back reset and a little more fresh.

Physically, mentally he just looks cooked.
I don't think he's playing at 100% either. Since his recent injury, there has been a noticeable drop off in his compete level.
 

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