How are you feeling about Tavares these days?

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We should move him to the wing where there is less defensive responsibility. He hasn’t lost the skill, and can reinvent himself. We can get more of a 2 way Center in ufa or move Nylander to C.
He needs to be moved to the wing for sure, but I don't believe Willie is the answer at C. We've tried that a few times and it doesn't seem to work for whatever reason. I'd rather not mess with what works and leave him at RW.

UFA 2nd line C is the focus. Nothing too fancy, 45-50 points, some size and balls, defensively sound would be ideal.
 
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Bro what?

Knies and Bertuzzi are absolute slugs out there right now.

Not even close. Knies is labouring but Taveras is stuck in quick sand. He was unplayable against the avs

I’ll give you similarly slow maybe, but Knies has been well behind the play all the time lately. If he’s not been slower than JT it’s been insanely close.
 
Knies has hit the wall, probably needs a couple games off.

Yeah, still love the player, not worried about him long term, but the grind of the nhl schedule has been impacting him significantly. He’s been bad lately.

The all star break should be good for him at least
 
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Yeah, still love the player, not worried about him long term, but the grind of the nhl schedule has been impacting him significantly. He’s been bad lately.

The all star break should be good for him at least

Yeah, love the player but college schedule vs NHL schedule is an adjustment.

This is where I look at Keefe and think "wtf?"

Robertson is right there, get him in some games and let Knies sit out a bit.
 
Yeah, love the player but college schedule vs NHL schedule is an adjustment.

This is where I look at Keefe and think "wtf?"

Robertson is right there, get him in some games and let Knies sit out a bit.

Agreed. At this point I’m fully expecting Robertson to be traded if Keefe isn’t being removed
 
Best thing for Tavares is to get some minor injury that puts him on the shelf for a couple weeks.
 
Knies and Bertuzzi are absolute slugs out there right now.



I’ll give you similarly slow maybe, but Knies has been well behind the play all the time lately. If he’s not been slower than JT it’s been insanely close.
I think he's a step behind the play because he doesn't know what to do
 
Tavares is showing what I figured where he'd be in years 6 and 7 of his deal. Elite players can uphold through age, but JT was never a fast skater and that is what's impacting his game the most. He's still able to produce, but his speed issues now means he's no longer able to drive play on his own line.
 
He is 33, not 38 and he only plays 18 minutes a night but he looks like he is at the end of a 100 game season. Foligno looked done for the Leafs at 33 but he was a player for the Bs at 35 so I don't think its age. Whether illness or injury they have to get him right. I would actually sit him down for a couple of games because they can get -2 out of anybody in that spot. He needs some kind of a bump.
The difference in Foligno from Toronto to Boston was likely just a coach who knew how to use him.

Maybe a real coach could make JT useful again (beyond the faceoff dot).
 
You ever see Tavares sitting on the bench staring straight ahead while someone on his team is getting beaten on and hurt?

What kind of message is he sending to everyone? Because he is sending a message. It just so happens to be the wrong one.

I cant believe the Leafs chose this guy to represent their team.

Zero personality. Zero charisma. Zero inspiration.

Zero success.

He shouldn't be Captain with that pacifist carefree attitude. A team takes on the identity of it's leaders. A group of donkeys led by a lion can defeat a group of lions led by a donkey.

Pretty hard to intimidate the opposition when the team gets bullied every game and the Captain doesn’t even bat an eye.
 
I really think JT should be on a line with Calle and Bert and just let that line grind and forecheck.

Willie, Knies and Domi on a line would be great.

BUT most importantly, the dmen need to make quicker decisions with the puck.
 
Tavares was always a net front guy who could stake out his position and convert his opportunities.
He can’t even do that anymore despite playing against secondary opposition and playing with an elite right winger.
 
7 games pointless now

5 points in his last 16 games. Hands down worst Leaf forward in this stretch too.

Bitch about the Bertuzzi/Domi/Klingberg contracts all you like but as it stands right now Tavares is the biggest boat anchor relative to salary on the team, by a lot too.

Dubas didn't even have to live through the worst part this contract. This guy's a big f***ing problem right now.
 
7 games pointless now

5 points in his last 16 games. Hands down worst Leaf forward in this stretch too.

Bitch about the Bertuzzi/Domi/Klingberg contracts all you like but as it stands right now Tavares is the biggest boat anchor relative to salary on the team, by a lot too.

Dubas didn't even have to live through the worst part this contract. This guy's a big f***ing problem right now.
This year and next were supposed to be the years we'd have to live with his declining play after five years of deep playoff runs and a Cup or two. Didn't quite work out as planned.
 

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