Proposal: Horvat to the Sabres

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Sabres need a 2C behind Tage. Especially one that is great on faceoffs like Horvat. Honest don't know what is would take to get him but Sabres don't need the Canucks to retain anything.

Horvat
Myers

For

Mittelstadt / Oloffson
Ryan Johnson / Portillo rights
Fitzgerald
2023 - 1st (Top 10 protected)
2024 - 2nd (Bo resigns)

Are those slashes "or" or are they "and"?

If they are "ands" then it's a rowboats for battleships trade with a lot of oars thrown in. If those are "ors" then it is way, way too short.
 

DJN21

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Are those slashes "or" or are they "and"?

If they are "ands" then it's a rowboats for battleships trade with a lot of oars thrown in. If those are "ors" then it is way, way too short.

considering Horvat resigns with the Sabres making all things potentially happening happen...

Thats roughly a late first (what ollofsson could bring at the deadline)
a 2nd (at the very latest what Johnson becomes if he walks, more if you value Portillo and Johnson at their face value not just what Buffalo stands to lose them for)
a 1st
and a 2nd

not really as light as you are making it out to be. Its kinda two 1sts and 2 seconds...

I didnt mention the Myers addition because I don't deem it really necessary and I'd be fine not including him. Frankly I'd rather add Schenn myself but neither here nor there I reckon.
 

AHLdepth

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Picks can't be conditional on signings, so that 2nd doesn't work.

Honest question I have regarding CBA. If Johnson walks as a free agent, Buffalo gets a compensatory 2nd round pick, if he is traded and then walks does the acquiring team actually get the same compensation?
 

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That's so bad for Buffalo, while also mostly ignoring Vancouver's wants if they are forced to trade Horvat.

It certain fulfills a rowboats for battleships idea of giving Vancouver a lot of stuff but none of it anywhere being a bluechip prospect in return.
 
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Sabres need a 2C behind Tage. Especially one that is great on faceoffs like Horvat. Honest don't know what is would take to get him but Sabres don't need the Canucks to retain anything.

Horvat
Myers

For

Mittelstadt / Oloffson
Ryan Johnson / Portillo rights
Fitzgerald
2023 - 1st (Top 10 protected)
2024 - 2nd (Bo resigns)

Remove the top 10 protection, for a start. Other teams might still think we’ll tank, have the confidence that we won’t.

Does Vancouver know they’re getting Fitzgerald, or are we just putting him on the plane and not telling them?

I think maybe replace Fitz with a real D prospect, but I’m not sure we have what they want. I also don’t think they’d want VO, I’d kinda assume Casey would be the ask between those two.
 

Circus86

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Are you seeing what kind of season Horvat is having? He is playing like an elite 1C. That package will not be enough.
 
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Gstank

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I would think Vancouver would be looking a Jokuhaji Savoie/Ostlund and a 1st for Horvat
 

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Are you seeing what kind of season Horvat is having? He is playing like an elite 1C. That package will not be enough.

Yeah, paying a premium for a guy in a contract year who is playing way over his career norms does seem like something teams should look at and probably moderates what someone would offer.
 
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Sabres need a 2C behind Tage. Especially one that is great on faceoffs like Horvat. Honest don't know what is would take to get him but Sabres don't need the Canucks to retain anything.

Horvat
Myers

For

Mittelstadt / Oloffson
Ryan Johnson / Portillo rights
Fitzgerald
2023 - 1st (Top 10 protected)
2024 - 2nd (Bo resigns)
Tuch or bust

One of my favorite players in the league lol
 

wetcoast

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Are you seeing what kind of season Horvat is having? He is playing like an elite 1C. That package will not be enough.

Horvat is on a hot streak and is playing well but he is a #2 center but this package looks like a Jim Benning shuffle and I like Ryan Johnson quite a bit.
 

AHLdepth

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Horvat and Myers to Buf is a workable trade if you want both.

Gotta simplify the deal though. Horvat is worth some level of 1st round pick, and excellent prospect. Now if the idea you're proposing is to take Myers back as a pseudo cap dump then I would be willing to factor that in slightly, but would rather just keep Myers it it meant not compromising.

That said I would do Horvat for Kulich + 1st...or If Myers is involved Horvat + Myers for Kulich + 2 2nds (one of which could be in the form of an unsigned Ryan Johnson)
 

TheDawnOfANewTage

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Tuch or bust

One of my favorite players in the league lol

Lol.

Sabres management: “alright, so our PR has turned around and our foot is finally healed up from when we kept shooting ourselves in it- but we have that other foot.. hmm..”
 

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