Hockey Cards - Part III

[blankall]

Does anyone have a Beckett subscription?
How much does a 1979-1980 O-Pee-Chee hockey set and 1985-86 O-Pee-Chee hockey set list for?
Do you have to get everything graded before you sell nowadays? How much does it cost to get a whole frickin' set graded?
Can you actually make money off of the modern stuff; it's not all over-produced like the 1990's cards?

So many questions. I looked through all my cards the other day and everything seems so underwhelming. My two biggest regrets right now are not buying (okay... having my dad buy, back then lol) a Gretzky RC that was in NM condition instead of average and not learning how to play and not collecting Magic: The Gathering cards when they came out.

Grading is very expensive these days. It's also not good for thicker, patch, acetate, etc.. cards.

I have made close to $100k off modern cards. I don't think that will last forever, which is why I am selling off almost my entire collection. That being said, I sold off McDavid BGS YGs for $1600, and now they are going for more....so who knows.

I made all of my cash off graded Young Guns. 5 years ago I would buy blasters on sale for $10-20 CAD. I sent about 500 cards in for grading. Now in the process of selling them all. Most expensive young guns I had was a BGS 10 black label Hedman, which sold for over $3k. I also sold a year 2 Gretzky for $6k (graded PSA 9), which I had purchased for $300 about 10 years prior. That was my first purchase that got me back into the hobby.

My biggest regret is not buying Ovechkin graded YGs when they were going for $100 a piece.

As far as MTG goes, that's not really worth much unless you have Alpha/Beta cards. Those were in very low print runs and weren't mainstream. By the time most people had heard of MTG, it was the revised set. I played a bit of that, but most cards aren't worth all that much. MTG isn't all that great of an investment. You really have to get lucky with a set becoming part of a popular deck. Sports cards, especially basketball, would have been a much better investment. I don't know enough about basketball to invest in it though. That's part of what draws me into hockey cards, is that I get to combine collecting with my hockey knowledge. It's also gambling, but gambling where you can use knowledge to come out ahead.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

The new Premier will finally have a Devon Toews NHL autograph card.

For example Shane Bowers had several ages ago.

edit. Reading the comments above, I agree. It is about potential. Bowers is probably the Calder Trophy winner either last or this season.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

After selling a lot of McDavid The Cup rookies last year for almost a million bucks I’m now in the process of selling 8 cases of 16/17 UD, a Matthews Cup rookie, Marner Cup rookie, and 20 Matthews YG to a guy in Toronto for a lot of cash and a PSA 10 Jordan rookie.

Some people never learn….

 

[ElLeetch]

Been watching some 'Box Breaks'.

How do they determine which "team" gets a players card, if a player has changed teams? Does it vary by box breaker? I've seen cards "awarded" to current team, and team listed on the card.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Been watching some 'Box Breaks'.

How do they determine which "team" gets a players card, if a player has changed teams? Does it vary by box breaker? I've seen cards "awarded" to current team, and team listed on the card.

I'm pretty sure it's just based on the the actual card.

"Wow, we've got a Joe Thornton rookie patch auto here! Let's see.....he plays for Florida now, so congrats, whoever had the Panthers!"

Gotta say, I've never seen that before.

 

[BostonBob]

Been watching some 'Box Breaks'.

How do they determine which "team" gets a players card, if a player has changed teams? Does it vary by box breaker?

I've seen it before with All-Star cards and the card was awarded to the team that the player was on for that particular season.

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

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That’s probstein. Chances are 40 of those bids are shilled.

Second, I’m having a hard time taking that card seriously if it isn’t at an auction house.Who in their right mind says to themselves “let’s get absolutely nothing for a scarce card and stick it on eBay and let a known scumbag consign it #winning”?

I’m 90% positive money doesn’t change hands with that one. That’s an insert card and not an actual rookie, but should still pull in 200k minimum at an auction house.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Been watching some 'Box Breaks'.

How do they determine which "team" gets a players card, if a player has changed teams? Does it vary by box breaker? I've seen cards "awarded" to current team, and team listed on the card.

First off, my condolences for having to hear “BOOM” and “LETS GO” by some yelling moron after every non common pull.

Second, box breakers are pump and dumpers. Right now it’s 50/50 in the breakers community if you do get a decent pull they send it to you.

Third, most breakers are idiots losing their asses right now financially.

Breakers over hyped the WWE Prizm crap and now the shit hit retail and everyone has it. They spent 800 bucks a box when right now you can pull one of these 5k autographs out of a blaster for 35 bucks.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

That’s probstein. Chances are 40 of those bids are shilled.

Second, I’m having a hard time taking that card seriously if it isn’t at an auction house.Who in their right mind says to themselves “let’s get absolutely nothing for a scarce card and stick it on eBay and let a known scumbag consign it #winning”?

I’m 90% positive money doesn’t change hands with that one. That’s an insert card and not an actual rookie, but should still pull in 200k minimum at an auction house.

Probstein bought a Roy card I was watching on ebay and then put it back up for 5 times what he bought it for.

I did however win auctioned cards from him. Shipping to Canada is ridiculous. Something like 60 bucks for 2 cards.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Probstein bought a Roy card I was watching on ebay and then put it back up for 5 times what he bought it for.

I did however win auctioned cards from him. Shipping to Canada is ridiculous. Something like 60 bucks for 2 cards.

Probstein is a notorious shill bidding wasteland. Nobody invested in the hobby touches anything he consigns.

Probstein buys cards? Idk about that….

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Probstein is a notorious shill bidding wasteland. Nobody invested in the hobby touches anything he consigns.

Probstein buys cards? Idk about that….

Well, I can't for sure say ge bought it and someone may have used him, but the card I was watching went as sold and he listed it a week later at an inflated price, so maybe someone bought it and got him to list it so it might sell faster, but I know he (or maybe it was that other one PWCC or whatever) was selling the exact same card. PSA 10 and number matched along with it being a rare Roy card

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Well, I can't for sure say ge bought it and someone may have used him, but the card I was watching went as sold and he listed it a week later at an inflated price, so maybe someone bought it and got him to list it so it might sell faster, but I know he (or maybe it was that other one PWCC or whatever) was selling the exact same card. PSA 10 and number matched along with it being a rare Roy card

Sounds more like the card was shill bid up and the winner didn’t pay for it so he relisted it at a higher price.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Could anyone tell me the value of this card?

 

[Kipper933]

Could anyone tell me the value of this card?

$18-24 cdn.

 

[ElysiumAB]

If anyone sees a 2021-22 Upper Deck Series 2 checklist released, or a change to the release date - please post it.

 

[miscs75]

If anyone sees a 2021-22 Upper Deck Series 2 checklist released, or a change to the release date - please post it.

S1 hasn’t even dropped on epacks yet. Give it another month or two atleast before cardboard connection posts it. My guess is s2 will be late May or June.

 

[blankall]

S1 hasn’t even dropped on epacks yet. Give it another month or two atleast before cardboard connection posts it. My guess is s2 will be late May or June.

So ridiculous. And when is extended? And then S1, 2022/23? What were they thinking putting out extended this year.

 

[ElysiumAB]

S1 hasn’t even dropped on epacks yet. Give it another month or two atleast before cardboard connection posts it. My guess is s2 will be late May or June.

Oh, wow... I actually just checked D&A and they updated their release date from 4/27 to "June 1st, 2022"...

They must've just done that in the past day or two.

 

[miscs75]

2020-21 Ultimate literally just came out and SPA isn’t even out yet. That should tell you all you need fo know about Upper Decks wonderful timeline this year.

So ridiculous. And when is extended? And then S1, 2022/23? What were they thinking putting out extended this year.

 

[OldCraig71]

I have Bure, Fedorov, Jagr rookie cards issued by Upper Deck in the early 90's . Do any of these have much value?

 

[Not The One]

Anybody got a list of recommended auction sites for vintage hockey cards?

I have a few that I check on weekly but there may be some more with interesting stuff I don't know about.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I have Bure, Fedorov, Jagr rookie cards issued by Upper Deck in the early 90's . Do any of these have much value?

Depends on condition and if they’re graded. I’m gonna assume they’re between $5 and $20 just on their own (not graded, but in plastic and they’re NM to MT condition) but don’t quote me on that.

 

[OldCraig71]

Depends on condition and if they’re graded. I’m gonna assume they’re between $5 and $20 just on their own (not graded, but in plastic and they’re NM to MT condition) but don’t quote me on that.

They are all mint condition, I guess that the mass production of cards during the collecting boom of the 90's is the reason for lower values. I have Lindros and other big names from that era as well and my overall collection numbers 10-15k in hockey cards.

 

[billy baru]

Any idea what this might be worth? Signed Gretzky rookie card…not in the best of shape.