Hockey Cards - Part III

[Canadian Game]

Depending on how it’s shown in the bidding, it’s possible that the winning bidder had a high max bid the entire time but as others bid, his still came out on top as the leading bid because of his max. They also might have increased the max bid at some point too.

 

[The Marquis]

Perhaps I'll pull em out and photo them and post here, but I think my best cards are Topps:

1971-72 Gordie Howe
1971-72 Dave Keon


I really love the look of that year. Instantly memorable.

I have a bunch of others from that era, but I can't remember who. Might even have some older, but I haven't looked at them in many years, but those two I knew just by sight so I was able to look them up at work.

 

[Not The One]

Depending on how it’s shown in the bidding, it’s possible that the winning bidder had a high max bid the entire time but as others bid, his still came out on top as the leading bid because of his max. They also might have increased the max bid at some point too.

Nope I checked and he bid 50$ the first day, 90$ 12 hours before the end and something over 900$ five minutes before the end. I've seen auctions skyrocket because 10 people are bidding at the last second on a popular card, I've seen auctions get shill bidding but this was definitely neither. Most likely we both wanted the card very very much and he just bid a crazy high number thinking (correctly) that nobody would bid over him. That guy broke my heart but I guess life must go on lol.

At least we probably made one eBay seller very very happy.

 

[JMACole]

Any word on when the new O-Pee-Chee set is coming out? I had heard that it was supposed to be on the 26th, but things seem pretty quiet. Wondering if it’s delayed.

 

[The Marquis]

Everything is delayed.

 

[ElLeetch]

Considering its the back-half of the 21-22 season, and some of the 20-21 season still hasn't come out, do you think they will just wind up not making some of those sets? Will they just not do a 20-21 SPAuth. and just make it the 21-22 SPAuth. then? In that case, do we just not have Laf/Byfield SPA rookies then?

 

[Dicky113]

Normally I'm pretty zen about these things but yesterday was the end date for the auction of a card I really really really wanted on eBay.

This was an autographed vintage card for a deceased player. The card was in ok condition but not graded. Normally without the auto it would probably go for 100 USD. With the autograph it wasn't unique, but still really rare. I'd been stalking the listing for 7 days and must have been checking it out every hour during that time. I absolutely wanted to win this, and based on previous examples I thought it would go between 300 and 500 USD, but most likely around 450 USD. My plan was to overbid bet 775 USD a few seconds before the end.

Ten seconds before the end the bidding was at 175 USD... promising. I then make my bid AND SOMEONE BID OVER ME. I panicked and bid 900 USD. The auctions ends. I LOST.

Checking out the auction log, someone else (obviously) bid > 900 USD a few minutes before. The third highest bid was only 175 USD. I was absolutely gutted. Objectively there is no way that card was worth over 1100 CAD. I have several earlier, graded autographed cards of this same player that cost way less than that, but really wanted this one to grow my collection. The winning bidder had previously bid 50 USD and then 90 USD about 12 hours before the auction ended, and then probably over 1000 USD a few minutes before the end. Did he make a mistake? Did he bid 1000$ for a nice round number thinking no one else would go near that? If he did he got a nasty and expensive surprise.

I'm just writing this to better understand myself and to begin the healing process lol. I'm holding out the faint hope that the guy got an unexpected surprise and won't pay and that the card will be relisted in a few weeks. But probably not. Oh well...

Why are you protecting the identify of the card likes it’s a victim of sexual assault?

 

[Dicky113]

Yeah I was discussing how auctions worked with my kids and using this one as an exemple (before it went sour) and one of them said I should bid 10,000 if I really wanted it just to make sure. In retrospect I'm glad I didn't because that would have been a hard pill to swallow. It went at about 2x of the maximum amount I though it would go. And if I wasn't there to bid on it, it would have gone for only 175$, which is quite a bargain. Unless there was a mistake either the guy never though it would go for that price (it wouldn't have except for me) or he's quite rich and 1000$ is nothing to him.

Still, it might take years before I see this particular card autographed again, so I'm really sad about the whole thing. It's not I can just bid on another one like it.

I’m guessing the guy owned the card and didn’t want to let it go for that price so took it down with a burner. That or he was trying to bid you up and got greedy.

 

[Canadian Game]

Why are you protecting the identify of the card likes it’s a victim of sexual assault?

Super weird comparison considering the topic is hockey cards. It’s pretty normal in the hobby if people are searching for tough to find cards. Some people will say so that others can help them search. Others will keep it quiet because it can increase demand (by causing interest) and the price.

Edit: some sellers will also jack prices up if they hear someone is looking for said rare card. I can think of two sellers who have been notorious for doing this for years, and they kill the fun in collecting.

 

[Not The One]

Super weird comparison considering the topic is hockey cards. It’s pretty normal in the hobby if people are searching for tough to find cards. Some people will say so that others can help them search. Others will keep it quiet because it can increase demand (by causing interest) and the price.

Edit: some sellers will also jack prices up if they hear someone is looking for said rare card. I can think of two sellers who have been notorious for doing this for years, and they kill the fun in collecting.

Lol. I was just trying to be discrete and to not doxx myself, but it probably wouldn't be hard to figure out if anyone cared.

I collect vintage Maurice Richard Parkhurst autographed cards (not the reprints). I already have four, and I'm always interested to get more of anyone has one.

Edit: Damn it. I went to check the seller's account this morning and he left positive feedback for the buyer. So that means he paid. Oh well...

 

[Not The One]

I’m guessing the guy owned the card and didn’t want to let it go for that price so took it down with a burner. That or he was trying to bid you up and got greedy.

Nah I know what shill bidding looks like and that ain't it. Maybe if the bid was 500 or 600 but more than 900 would be ridiculous. The winning bid was either an error or someone with more disposable cash than I do.

 

[Dicky113]

Lol. I was just trying to be discrete and to not doxx myself, but it probably wouldn't be hard to figure out if anyone cared.

I collect vintage Maurice Richard Parkhurst autographed cards (not the reprints). I already have four, and I'm always interested to get more of anyone has one.

Ahh, thanks; the suspense was killing me

 

[Bondurant]

We need the scuttlebutt on UD. Other companies are making cards. UD is making cards (Tim's, AEW etc.) but cannot get their flagship hockey series rolling? Still not buying the "supply chain" excuse.

 

[Not The One]

We need the scuttlebutt on UD. Other companies are making cards. UD is making cards (Tim's, AEW etc.) but cannot get their flagship hockey series rolling? Still not buying the "supply chain" excuse.

I would guess they are as eager as you are to be able to make money and sell their flagship product. The other cards may have been printed and packaged months ago and/or under an airtight contract that they were obligated to honor before moving production to their own release.

 

[JMACole]

It would be nice if Upper Deck could have more communication about release dates with the people that want to buy their product. Or maybe put out a checklist. Something to make people happy and give us something to look forward to while we wait.

 

[PaddyMcStackin]

We need the scuttlebutt on UD. Other companies are making cards. UD is making cards (Tim's, AEW etc.) but cannot get their flagship hockey series rolling? Still not buying the "supply chain" excuse.

Just speculating, but have you seen their employment page? When I last checked there were several dozen positions open.

 

[blankall]

It would be nice if Upper Deck could have more communication about release dates with the people that want to buy their product. Or maybe put out a checklist. Something to make people happy and give us something to look forward to while we wait.

They probably know about as much as we do, and want to get their product out as quickly as possible. My guess is that they have run out of some key physical component of the cards that is manufactured in China. A bunch of Chinese factors are shut down due to covid, and UD won't be able to put anything out until they reopen.

 

[VC]

Are the oversized Young Gungs worth anything? Can you get hard cases for them? and/or the thick jersey cards?

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Are the oversized Young Gungs worth anything? Can you get hard cases for them? and/or the thick jersey cards?

Some of the jumbo yg’s are worth money yes, and ya you can get card holders for pretty much any thickness of card ( both top loaders and one touches).

 

[VC]

Some of the jumbo yg’s are worth money yes, and ya you can get card holders for pretty much any thickness of card ( both top loaders and one touches).

I'm not a big time spender and only just slowly gotten back into the hobby over the last year. I don't have anything big in the oversized but goof to know there is something out there to protect them. More of a collector that seller so the novelty of the oversized YGs could be fun to watch in value.

 

[pucksakes666]

Are the Tom hortons hockey cards even worth buying? I havnt bought a box in years so have no clue which ones are good anymore.

 

[Master P]

Are the Tom hortons hockey cards even worth buying? I havnt bought a box in years so have no clue which ones are good anymore.

You just gave me a great idea for playoff avatars. Thank you.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Lol. I was just trying to be discrete and to not doxx myself, but it probably wouldn't be hard to figure out if anyone cared.

I collect vintage Maurice Richard Parkhurst autographed cards (not the reprints). I already have four, and I'm always interested to get more of anyone has one.

Edit: Damn it. I went to check the seller's account this morning and he left positive feedback for the buyer. So that means he paid. Oh well...

I had one of these. Pretty sure I sold it maybe 5 years ago? Sometime over next year I am going through my cards.....if I am wrong and it is there, will let you know.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Nah I know what shill bidding looks like and that ain't it. Maybe if the bid was 500 or 600 but more than 900 would be ridiculous. The winning bid was either an error or someone with more disposable cash than I do.

Obviously if they way overbid you it wouldn't help but one thing I do to try and counteract snipers is to bid in odd amounts. So sometimes I will bid both high but as an example $123.45. The $123 alone screws them up and the non rounded number even more.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Yeah I was discussing how auctions worked with my kids and using this one as an exemple (before it went sour) and one of them said I should bid 10,000 if I really wanted it just to make sure. In retrospect I'm glad I didn't because that would have been a hard pill to swallow. It went at about 2x of the maximum amount I though it would go. And if I wasn't there to bid on it, it would have gone for only 175$, which is quite a bargain. Unless there was a mistake either the guy never though it would go for that price (it wouldn't have except for me) or he's quite rich and 1000$ is nothing to him.

Still, it might take years before I see this particular card autographed again, so I'm really sad about the whole thing. It's not I can just bid on another one like it.

Been trying to complete a set for 18 years now. 7 cards left, all numbered to 20. It's weird watching every week for that long, crossing your fingers one will pop up then knowing you absolutely HAVE to win it.