Damn this is a lot of denial.
Oh well, it is what it is. I can’t change the mind of a stranger on a hockey forum.
Kind of glad the bedard cycle is gone now, hopefully prices wont be so comically high now for this crop.
Are we arguing that he's at the level of the big 4 or in the same tier as Evgeni Malkin??No need to define what proves a top 100 player. It's already assumed he appears to have a top 100 player resume. But the GOATs already have much higher criteria. The big four all have huge resumes and are known outside of hockey.
Yeah I agree to an extent. But it's a lot easier to lose money in all these new cards if you hold on to them, as opposed to simply flipping them (See Lafreniere, Kaprizov and hundreds more). And TBH, breaking cases for the most part yields much less than what you put in, it's basically like buying scratch tickets hoping you hit a big one, or playing slot machines. We see the fake You Tube videos of an awesome 1/1 find, yet we don't see the thousand other breaks of simple garbage and a waste of a thousand bucks. Vintage hockey are for holding on to long term and making steady long term growth, basically enjoying them (Although Baseball Vintage is a much better investment). To each their own, I guess I'm more of the thought of buying Berkshire Hathaway stock as opposed to Crypto.It’s pretty easy to explain. You’re newly rich, maybe from crypto or some other investment. You buy cards of players you know.
In fact, Vintage cards are so poorly printed, unless they’re super high grade or pre-war, there’s little to generate interest. One of the cards on that list is a game worn jersey shield 1/1 autographed by Wayne Gretzky.
I remember one year I had a windfall of well over $50k and I blew 90% of that on hockey cases. It never once occurred to me to buy a vintage card. Why? My first collecting was coins. And like coin collecting, it’s dying and the majority of collecting is done by guys born 70s or earlier. With all the hype around modern players with tons of video on YT and games on TV, and the fact the early 90s being the most exciting era of hockey ever, the card collecting base is under 50.
Seeing as how it’s your single opinion vs several others here, I’m pretty sure."not a homer"
Are you sure? How can you be so sure?
Quite an embellishment considering not once did I say he’s the goat of all time. This is a sign you’re unhinged and losing the argument.How can he be GOAT of all time when he's not even GOAT season to season?
Yeah I agree to an extent. But it's a lot easier to lose money in all these new cards if you hold on to them, as opposed to simply flipping them (See Lafreniere, Kaprizov and hundreds more). And TBH, breaking cases for the most part yields much less than what you put in, it's basically like buying scratch tickets hoping you hit a big one, or playing slot machines. We see the fake You Tube videos of an awesome 1/1 find, yet we don't see the thousand other breaks of simple garbage and a waste of a thousand bucks. Vintage hockey are for holding on to long term and making steady long term growth, basically enjoying them (Although Baseball Vintage is a much better investment). To each their own, I guess I'm more of the thought of buying Berkshire Hathaway stock as opposed to Crypto.
Seeing as how it’s your single opinion vs several others here, I’m pretty sure.
I even got Satan on my side.
Quite an embellishment considering not once did I say he’s the goat of all time. This is a sign you’re unhinged and losing the argument.
Are we arguing that he's at the level of the big 4 or in the same tier as Evgeni Malkin??
I stand corrected, I'm old school (Vintage) and TBH cannot comprehend how people would pay that amount of money...
I'm with you 100%. I look at that list and I think most of those cards are total garbage. All these cards with a piece of the jersey or an autograph are just manufactured manipulative nonsense. Only value because of forced rarity. No different than just going down to your local gas station and buying a quick pick lottery ticket.
The ones where there are two random stars on the same card with autos or jersey pieces are the worst by far. Just disgusting nonsense.
No thanks, I'll stick with vintage and won't even look twice at anything produced after the 80s.
Congrats! Who is it?View attachment 910244 Got that in a break the other day. Do I chase the rest of the rainbow now?
Pelech, All Star Adam Pelech (in James Bond’s voice)Congrats! Who is it?
I’m assuming this is The Cup?Pelech, All Star Adam Pelech (in James Bond’s voice)
Luckily I no has. I do have a small Voynov collection… 1/1 Ultimate Shield. My young fellow collector pal at the time went for O’Sullivan but since he didn’t have much money, he couldn’t get burned by much.@Rorschach show us ur patrick o'sullivan collection
Yup but the plates are 22-23 extended platesI’m assuming this is The Cup?
It being Pelech and not a RC, The rainbow, if you want it, should be well within your grasp. It might not be as cheap as you think but it's doable if you wish.Yup but the plates are 22-23 extended plates
Hardest ones to find will be the clear cut exclusives and high gloss. I can do the epacks ones real easy with some trading.It being Pelech and not a RC, The rainbow, if you want it, should be well within your grasp. It might not be as cheap as you think but it's doable if you wish.
After you've exhausted your personal connections, you can put out feelers to the hobbyinsider forum. Just search for Hobby Insider Forum. DO NOT LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU ARE GOING FOR ANY RAINBOW.Hardest ones to find will be the clear cut exclusives and high gloss. I can do the epacks ones real easy with some trading.
I can test that one and SCF. There’s a high gloss on eBay right now for $30 but I’m holding out for now.After you've exhausted your personal connections, you can put out feelers to the hobbyinsider forum. Just search for Hobby Insider Forum. DO NOT LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU ARE GOING FOR ANY RAINBOW.
I can test that one and SCF. There’s a high gloss on eBay right now for $30 but I’m holding out for now.
Gonna see if I can find the clear cut exclusives first or if one was even for sale everFor me, at $30, I would just pull the trigger. FOMO is worth way more than $100, let alone $30 as this is a /10 card. Also, the HG is a cool enough card that having 2x, 3x, 8x copies in of itself is rather cool. I look at it like this: if I work overtime for an hour I get way more than $100 and thus if it takes me many, many off-hours to find another copy or you're just searching and don't even find, that's not worth trying to save $5.
Are you checking that to check off the toughest cards first, guaranteeing the rainbow is well in grasp?Gonna see if I can find the clear cut exclusives first or if one was even for sale ever
Yup. I bought the exclusive, clear cut and French for a combined $15 before. I have the physical base and I’ll do the 2 epacks variants by trading for the 110 base needs. I might have the speckled variant but I need to check first.Are you checking that to check off the toughest cards first, guaranteeing the rainbow is well in grasp?
"not a homer"
Are you sure? How can you be so sure?
If McDavid quit hockey today, you think he has a GOAT resume as a center with 0 Cups and (since 2017, his first successful season) other guys beating him for Art Ross (3x times), Hart (5x times, 5 different guys no less!)...that doesn't scream dominance to me as a scoring center. How can he be GOAT of all time when he's not even GOAT season to season?
Sounds like a severe case of recency bias to me.
The premium for Celebrini should be interesting to see.