Confirmed with Link: Ho-Sang PTO discussion

[Super Mega]

I like this, the leafs showed with Galchenyuk that they have a good space for players to rebound especially if its more of an attitude thing.

frankly I would like a few more ho sang fliers

 

[Rob Brown]

Galchenyuk was a guy that bounced around from team to team and everyone said he had issues, and he was given a chance here and by all accounts worked really hard and was liked by his teammates. It's not unreasonable for something like that to happen here, and if it doesn't work out in the tryout, we lose absolutely nothing.

We all want a winger, and what if he turns into a 40-50 point winger who fits in with the group?

 

[cupcrazyman]

Galchenyuk was a guy that bounced around from team to team and everyone said he had issues, and he was given a chance here and by all accounts worked really hard and was liked by his teammates. It's not unreasonable for something like that to happen here, and if it doesn't work out in the tryout, we lose absolutely nothing.

We all want a winger, and what if he turns into a 40-50 point winger who fits in with the group?

We get a free hat if things work out
He gets a free jersey if things don't

 

[Bluelines]

He must have royaly pissed off Lou, Lou would rather him rot in the AHL than release him. Until he did.

 

[Twine Tickler]

I completely wrote off Galchenyuk when he arrived with the Leafs. Thought there was zero chance of him playing a single game, and he proved me wrong. I am not saying this will be the case with Josh, but there is 1st round pedigree there. I know there were always rumors of character issues, but who knows how much truth there is to that. He knows he has the skill, its about recognizing that if he wants to play in the NHL it wont be because of that skill alone. He needs to play a complete game. I love the PTO, make him earn it. I have a nagging suspicion that he will TBH. I think he knows that Toronto is an outstanding place to reclaim his career, and the only thing that is in his way from making the team is the right mindset. Hard to believe a talented player like him, who has bounced around as much as he has wont eventually realize how finite his NHL dream is. I think a stint overseas might have been the perfect wakeup for him. I'm excited to see what he brings to camp TBH

 

[Face Of Bear]

He's ngmi

 

[Twine Tickler]

I think in hockey, people tend to label any player who’s not quiet, boring, your stereotypical yes man and status quo as a shit head. The only bad thing he did was be late to practice during camp. All the other things he got hate for simply being who he actually is and not being fake which 90% of the NHL is, which is a stupid hockey culture thing. The kid wanted to wear 66 big deal, NHL is the only league that makes a big deal about previous players numbers

I totally agree man. Hockey culture is so robotic. Anything outside of that norm you are labelled a problem. I can agree to some point if your personality becomes larger than the team, and how it might be annoying to be around. I think for example PK and Max Domi were over the top in your face on social media, constantly live streaming them and their teammates without any consent. That shit is annoying whether you're in hockey or not. If any of my friends constantly whipped out their phone to put shit on their social platforms while I am around them, I probably would not be friends with them lol.. I would definitely think they are a clown...

That said, I can appreciate PK and Max for growing the game to a different audience, something they have done extremely well and deserve praise. But when building a team, I can also see how 50% would be ok with that over the top personality, and 50% may be like me and get annoyed by that shit. So in some way I understand trying to find players with personalities that mesh well as a whole, which tend to be robotic.

Josh, from my understanding had a very similar personality to Naz. Very confident, and sometimes cocky and immature. Being late to practice was something Naz was famous for, but he figured it out eventually. In fact Naz grew away from his superstar mentality and completely redefined himself when he became a complete 200 ft player. Would you have ever expected that from Naz in his D+2 season? not a f***ing chance. Players learn from their mistakes, Josh can too

He was not being disrespectful in any way when he wore 66. He wore it to pay tribute to a legend of the game. How can a million defensemen wear #4 and it not be disrespectful to the greatest defensemen of all time, yet Josh wears 66 and its the ultimate disrespect. Makes zero sense

I think we will be pleasantly surprised with Josh TBH

 

[Aashir]

Couldn’t be less risky. Any type of reward if it were noticeable in the nhl would be great, but not expecting much

 

[CapspaceKiller]

People are honestly comparing him to DeAngelo? A guy who got punched out by his own goalie and kicked off the team a couple games into a 2yr deal? DeAngelo's a f***ing scumbag

 

[Twine Tickler]

People are honestly comparing him to DeAngelo? A guy who got punched out by his own goalie and kicked off the team a couple games into a 2yr deal? DeAngelo's a f***ing scumbag

lol ya no kidding eh? not even close

 

[Leaf Rocket]

good luck to him.

 

[Bluelines]

His NHL production is similar to Kerfoot or Brooks.

	Points per game
	NHL	AHL	OHL	WHL
Josh Ho Sang	0.45	0.69	1.14	N/A
Nazeem Kadri	0.64	0.9	1.07	N/A
Mitch Marner	0.78	N/A	2.03	N/A
Wlliam Nylander	0.73	1.03	N/A	N/A
Alex Kerfoot	0.49	N/A	N/A	N/A
Adam Brooks	0.44	0.56	N/A	1.06

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[bodechek]

Zero risk, high reward. This is pretty much the end of the line for him if he doesn't make it. I wonder if his ego and attitude will still be the same when he gets here.

 

[Azail]

I’m not going to jump on another teams bandwagon. But after all the crap the leafs have done, to me - this is the worst era to be a fan. Before, they had a thin roster with no true stars. Now, on paper and in the regular season they’re a top team. I’ll be watching less hockey this year likely

This is the worst era for you? Seriously? I'm not even that old, early 30s, and I went into seasons in my lifetime, that without sheer overachieving and ludicrous luck we had no shot at anything but mediocity.

You're saying trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel wasn't worse than this? Phaneuf as captain. Salute gate? Team fully giving up on Horachek?

 

[Clark4Ever]

Galchenyuk was a guy that bounced around from team to team and everyone said he had issues, and he was given a chance here and by all accounts worked really hard and was liked by his teammates. It's not unreasonable for something like that to happen here, and if it doesn't work out in the tryout, we lose absolutely nothing.

We all want a winger, and what if he turns into a 40-50 point winger who fits in with the group?

Nothing to lose by giving him a shot, that's for sure.

 

[Walshy7]

This is the worst era for you? Seriously? I'm not even that old, early 30s, and I went into seasons in my lifetime, that without sheer overachieving and ludicrous luck we had no shot at anything but mediocity.

You're saying trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel wasn't worse than this? Phaneuf as captain. Salute gate? Team fully giving up on Horachek?

spot on I moved to Canada in 2011 and until the nylander draft it was garbage after garbage. Burke and nonis throwing picks away and keeping a ridiculous core that we’re no chance at getting playoffs and had no picks or threw them away for f***ing Tyler Biggs or Stuart percys.

 

[Azail]

spot on I moved to Canada in 2011 and until the nylander draft it was garbage after garbage. Burke and nonis throwing picks away and keeping a ridiculous core that we’re no chance at getting playoffs and had no picks or threw them away for f***ing Tyler Biggs or Stuart percys.

I'm as frustrated as anyone that this core hasn't been able to get it done yet. Maybe they can't, but wow I'll take this core over the Kessel/Phaneuf era. At least we have good young players now.

 

[Walshy7]

I'm as frustrated as anyone that this core hasn't been able to get it done yet. Maybe they can't, but wow I'll take this core over the Kessel/Phaneuf era. At least we have good young players now.

1 playoffs with the phaneuf/kessel core, in a 48 game season where our play was regressing to the point it would have been yet another 18 wheeler. 4 playoffs with this core yes they haven’t got it done but the truculent core couldn’t get anything done ever

 

[Trapper]

Marner replacement.
Smart thinking Kyle.

 

[al secord]

I can't wait for him to drop his excuse when he doesn't make it THIS time.

 

[Tarmore]

I’m not going to jump on another teams bandwagon. But after all the crap the leafs have done, to me - this is the worst era to be a fan. Before, they had a thin roster with no true stars. Now, on paper and in the regular season they’re a top team. I’ll be watching less hockey this year likely

You clearly were not alive in the 80s

 

[ULF_55]

Glad they didn't gift him a free pass.

What's he played 30 games over the last 2 years?
On two SweHL teams for a total of 9 games last year?

How he isn't out of the game yet is amazing.

 

[Antropovsky]

Just noticed he released a rap song (my bad if someone else posted already).. its actually good.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

What a horrible thread. The attitude issues have always been so overblown. If the guy played in the NBA or NFL he wouldn't even be in the 50th percentile of attitudes. Hockey is just a trash sport where if you don't have the personality of a wet blanket you're the enemy. Someone comparing him to TDA was the easiest ignore of my life, and I've been ignoring virtually half the website at this point for their trash comments.

Lots of talent and never was gonna get a real chance after Lou took over. I love this move, and if it doesn't work out, it's a f***ing PTO.

so hockey is…how did you put it…toxic? Because they don’t have time for over the top prima donnas…don’t care about the NBA or the NFL as their players are some of the biggest hypocritical pieces of something or other I have ever seen be elevated in society…
With that being said Galch was considered a problem child until he got here and he seems to have put himself together quite nicely… I see no issue giving Ho-Sang a chance to see if he can finally put everything together
And if he fails it’s a PTO like you said literally a no loss situation

 

[leaffaninvancouver]

He's on a PTO, there is zero risk to the team. If he turns it around and looks good in camp, great possible steal if he signs a contract. I can't believe people are arguing over a PTO.