This place is going to be a toxic cesspool until the Leafs win something. Even if it's a round against a team that is injured from top to bottom.
Confirmed with Link: Ho-Sang PTO discussion
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This place is going to be a toxic cesspool until the Leafs win something. Even if it's a round against a team that is injured from top to bottom.
I think in hockey, people tend to label any player who’s not quiet, boring, your stereotypical yes man and status quo as a shit head. The only bad thing he did was be late to practice during camp. All the other things he got hate for simply being who he actually is and not being fake which 90% of the NHL is, which is a stupid hockey culture thing. The kid wanted to wear 66 big deal, NHL is the only league that makes a big deal about previous players numbers
The bigger risk is he actually makes the team.
no his history shows he’s a player who can stand up for himself and not conform to what organizations label him as. Which is a massive issue in hockey.
The Shrike
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I'd give him 93 just to watch heads explode.
Golden_Jet
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saffronleaf
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I like it.
No risk for the Leafs. I think he has a bit of potential. Who knows, maybe the Leafs staff can bring that out of him.
And if doesn't work out, which is probably more likely, it doesn't cost Leafs anything.
No risk for the Leafs. I think he has a bit of potential. Who knows, maybe the Leafs staff can bring that out of him.
And if doesn't work out, which is probably more likely, it doesn't cost Leafs anything.
No, he's a player who got kicked out of multiple billets in Windsor and was traded due to that, and constantly broke team rules. It's not about him being outspoken. That just magnifies the issue. You think he got redflagged just for being arrogant to the media?
And adapting to institutional cultures is something that exists in most walks of life.
In a market with a lot of goalies, Dubas landed a second goalie. Beyond that, he doesn't have much to show for today. 104 players have been signed. Looks like we're waiting for the music to stop to see who is left without a seat.
He initially got red flagged because he got snaked and black balled by hockey Canada for no reason. Way before any of this started and that’s what kind of set him off
EDIT: also wanted to highlight a fact that you said, “adapting to institutional cultures”, do you realize how f***ed up these institutional cultures have made not only society but the sports world and the trauma they cause to people? The same institutional culture you’re referring to is the one that doesn’t allow for any personality whatsoever in the sport hence why star players make shit all, it’s the same culture that covers up sexual assaults and brain injuries, it’s the same culture that puts unnecessary pressure on its athletes and forces young kids to move away from the only life they have ever know at the age of 16 in order to have a chance at making it and then punishes kids who don’t adapt fast enough to an environment they are unfamiliar too, it’s the same culture that drafts a kid who asked not to be drafted because he made a horrific decision because he wanted his ego boosted by his friends.
Leafsforever89
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He didn't get blackballed for no reason. He got blacklisted because went out of his way to be a dick to McDavid at the U-17's for Team Ontario (related to Ho-Sang not liking McDavid for overshadowing him his OHL draft year with the Marlies, after Ho-Sang didn't get exceptional status) and didn't work particularly hard. Hockey Canada doesn't blackball you for no reason. There are legitimate gripes about treatment of outspoken people in hockey, but Ho-Sang isn't the guy to build your case around. And, if he carried a hockey Canada issue back to Windsor and led to him acting unprofessionally, that's not really reflective of good character.
JayfromNB1219
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either way there are two sides to every story. I do think Ho-Sang has been mistreated it doesn’t mean he is a saint. Additionally this happened years ago, he’s not the same person he was then. The one thing I do like about Ho Sang is he’s not a puppet. He’s going to speak his mind and I respect that, the NHL is full of yes men cowards who are too scared to say anything of substance.
He whined to the media multiple times in Long Island. Does any industry tolerate their low-level employees whining to the press? Just because you are professional in front of the media, doesn't mean you are a yes man and don't voice concerns in private.
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PTO is the right call, as in, “act like a professional and we’ll see how we feel about offering you a contract.” I see no harm in this. Make him earn it like Galchenyuk did.
rumman
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how low can you go into the dumpster Kyle?
keonsbitterness
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I'm sorry, but you can take your "institutional cultures" and shove them up your f***ing ass. Stupid hazing rituals to show how "manly" you are shouldn't be part of ANY organization, PERIOD.
If we were talking about Akim Aliu I agree. But, my comment had nothing to do with hazing and nothing related to Ho-Sang is about him being hazed.
Golden_Jet
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Wafflewhipper
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Offer this idiot onboard and trade Kadri for being to physical picking up for teammates. This has gone to far already. All he’s doing is putting ugly jewellery on a pig.
This team is in trouble. Wow
Can ownership please clean house. What a pathetic mess
This team is in trouble. Wow
Can ownership please clean house. What a pathetic mess
stickty111
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Reeks of desperation from a GM fighting for his career.
stickty111
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Those are the types of fans who we shouldn't be listening too.
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