HFDevils Official Tickets and Prudential Center thread

[Jack Be Quick]

Vaccinations only were not required if you wore a mask. If you did not wear a mask, proof of vaccination was required to enter. I have had my vaccine card checked every time I walked in the door without question. Maybe you walked in one of the busy gates right around game time and slipped through the check.

Either way, pretty ridiculous for you to accuse someone of making things up (including the arena policy, which everyone knows has been no mask = proof of vaccination). I love wasting time coming on a message board to make up fake stories.

It's not ridiculous when it's a blatant falsehood or two on your behalf.

Sorry you encountered that anamoly of a security guard on 15 occasions when I have yet to once on 3.

For the record, I'm notorious for showing up late to games. So this is not a few cases of a busy tower.

Glad you're acting responsibly either way.

 

[Unknown Caller]

It's not ridiculous when it's a blatant falsehood or two on your behalf.

Sorry you encountered that anamoly of a security guard on 15 occasions when I have yet to once on 3.

For the record, I'm notorious for showing up late to games. So this is not a few cases of a busy tower.

Glad you're acting responsibly either way.

What fact was a blatant falsehood? That Prudential Center’s policy was to require proof of vaccination if you weren’t wearing mask? Or that I’ve been checked for my vax card every time I’ve walked into the building?

Because both are 100% fact. If you’re going to attack people for lying, have your shit straight.

 

[indfin]

What fact was a blatant falsehood? That Prudential Center’s policy was to require proof of vaccination if you weren’t wearing mask? Or that I’ve been checked for my vax card every time I’ve walked into the building?

Because both are 100% fact. If you’re going to attack people for lying, have your shit straight.

In a sense, you are both right. 1)Yes, they had a mask requirement unless you showed proof of vaccination; 2) they did not universally check (I think I was asked to show 2 of the times I attended); 3) the mask requirement was a farce, as once someone was up the escalator, they could choose whether to wear a mask and no one would know (or ask) if they were vaccinated. So, despite the "policy", there were undoubtedly unvaccinated people who were not wearing masks (in fact, based on the % of attendees who were wearing masks, it is reasonable to guess that most unvaccinated people were not wearing masks).

Not commenting on what the policy SHOULD be (or have been) ... just the reality that the policy did nothing to calm nerves of anyone (whether vaccinated or unvaccinated-but-masked) who was concerned about being in an arena with unmasked/unvaccinated people. And likely annoyed some unvaccinated people and anti-mandate people.

4) The Devils/arena management were fully aware of the absurdity of their policy (because anyone with even a little common sense would be aware)

 

[JrFischer54]

I wouldn't care for a second if they didn't play the western conference teams. So many of those teams are nondescript (Winnipeg, Anaheim, Dallas, Arizona, Calgary, Minnesota, etc.) that every home game against them just feels like Devils vs. a generic opponent.

On the other hand, 6-8 games against in-division teams would be unbearable right now given how bad we suck.

thats what i was getting at though i gotta think resale would increase even if just a little and the points being worth "more" then say an out of conference team would make the games in theory more enjoyable too

 

[JrFischer54]

They already required it unless you're wearing a mask, so I'm not sure why anyone would start complaining now. I'm sure enforcement will be identical to what it was before as well (1 second glance down at a picture of the vax card on your phone screen).

i saw this the other day when i went a guy in front of me didn't have a mask on at entry so the guy asked for his vax card and he showed it. i'm vaxed but was wearing a mask once i got in i took it off. figure thats easier then carrying around or showing a photo of the vax card? some people are just really against masks though

 

[JrFischer54]

vaccine mandate makes me more likely to go tbh, that’s good news for me

but why though? if you are vax yourself who cares if the person around you is or isn't they are still just as capable of spreading the virus so it doesn't really make a difference if the person is vax or not.

 

[Call Me Al]

oh brother. unvaxxed people not wearing masks are actually much more likely to spread it. there’s also a mask mandate. those two things are obviously much more likely to limit the spread of the virus. considering the general behavior and attitudes of the unvaxxed crowd that makes a big difference. shouldn’t have to explain it

 

[JrFischer54]

oh brother. unvaxxed people not wearing masks are actually much more likely to spread it. there’s also a mask mandate. those two things are obviously much more likely to limit the spread of the virus. considering the general behavior and attitudes of the unvaxxed crowd that makes a big difference. shouldn’t have to explain it

you didn't say anything about masks just about the vax mandate making it better for you going to games. of course people wearing masks help reduce the spread. just dont see that much of a difference in vax vs unvax in spreading. thats just me

 

[Call Me Al]

there’s definitely a reckless/inconsiderate/obnoxious correlation with the unvaxxed crowd at any place but especially games so if they’re weeded out i feel much better and safer regardless

 

[Unknown Caller]

you didn't say anything about masks just about the vax mandate making it better for you going to games. of course people wearing masks help reduce the spread. just dont see that much of a difference in vax vs unvax in spreading. thats just me

I agree with this. The amount of people I know that are double vaxxed and boosted who have contracted Omicron and spread it to others is astounding. I'm sure as we continue to get more information, we'll see that the vaccines don't do a whole lot for preventing infection/transmission of Omicron (preventing severe disease is a different story, and that will likely remain at least somewhat effective).

In terms of imposing restrictions to limit the spread of Covid, I just don't see vaccination being an effective solution with Omicron. It seems more like policy lagging facts just for the appearance of safety. Masks are a different story and probably more practical and effective.

 

[devilsblood]

It's not ridiculous when it's a blatant falsehood or two on your behalf.

Sorry you encountered that anamoly of a security guard on 15 occasions when I have yet to once on 3.

For the record, I'm notorious for showing up late to games. So this is not a few cases of a busy tower.

Glad you're acting responsibly either way.

We come in the side doors on Lafayette and if you don't have a mask you have to show a vax card. That's been the case every time.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Devils and Prudential officially announced the updated entry rules. I really don't think attendance will be affected by this as much, MSG and UBS haven't if it's something people want to see, if anything the awful on ice product is going to be the main thing keeping people away.

I know some people are not big on the owners and I'm whatever on them but the front office has come around and handled all of this better than they started with. I was able to just skip this season entirely and keep my seats and have my money pushed over to next season. I'm hoping the 22-23 season will be more normal.

I'm glad these rules are in now but I'm still happy I just had everything rolled over, between what's going on off the ice and their play on the ice, I simply just can't justify going this season.





Here's the full email they just sent out...

We would like to update you on the new entry policy, beginning on January 10, 2022, for all Prudential Center & New Jersey Devils events as a result of requirements imposed by the City of Newark.

To comply with the Mayor of Newark’s recent Executive Order, all guests aged five (5) and older entering Prudential Center will be required to show proof of vaccination against COVID-19. This policy will go into effect starting with the Devils’ home game against the Tampa Bay Lightning on January 10, 2022. Additionally, the city of Newark’s previous order requiring all guests to wear masks throughout events, unless actively eating or drinking, will remain in effect.

Upon entry between January 10 and February 9, all guests must show proof of having received at least one COVID-19 vaccination dose. Fans attending events on or after February 10 must show proof of being fully vaccinated (two doses of an approved two-dose vaccine or one dose of an approved one-dose vaccine). Proof of vaccination can be provided via display of an actual vaccination card, a complete picture of the card or an online digital vaccination record, along with an accompanying photo identification for those age 18 and older. Exemptions will be provided to those guests who provide a certification signed by the guest and a licensed healthcare provider certifying that receiving an approved vaccine would be detrimental to the health of the guest and that the healthcare provider has medically advised the guest not to receive any vaccine.

Prudential Center’s priority is to ensure the health and safety of all patrons, staff, players, artists and partners at all of our events. Entry protocols are subject to change based on additional mandates imposed by local government and health officials. For complete Prudential Center health and safety protocols, as well as specific questions regarding the City’s policy, please visit PruCenter.com/safety.

 

[NJDevs26]

Devils and Prudential officially announced the updated entry rules. I really don't think attendance will be affected by this as much, MSG and UBS haven't if it's something people want to see, if anything the awful on ice product is going to be the main thing keeping people away.

The product doesn't help but I'm sure there'll also be some no-shows because they don't like the new rules while others will stay away just because they're worried about the spread of the variant. To a degree, a little bit of all three apply to me right now (I agree with the vax mandate, just don't want to watch games in a mask when I'm already boosted and I don't particularly want to get even a cold or flu and have to quarantine because I can't get COVID tested), it's really a perfect storm of reasons not to go to a game. Even tickets for today's game plummeted into the high $20's on the secondary market and on a normal NYE this would be a sure sellout. It may still be one, or close to it but either way it'll be interesting to see just how defiant fans decide to get over the mask mandate and how much ushers are able to enforce it once fans are in their seats.

 

[Colin226]

Anyone know what that construction is on the opposite side of Penn Station from the arena?

 

[NJDevs26]

FWIW the listed attendance was 13,044...oof. Good thing I sold my tickets a few weeks ago when prices were still in the $40 and up range.

 

[Satans Hockey]

FWIW the listed attendance was 13,044...oof. Good thing I sold my tickets a few weeks ago when prices were still in the $40 and up range.

Maybe I'm just remembering wrong and I know the team fudges the numbers anyway but I just don't remember New Year's Eve games being an instant sellout no matter what they say or put as the attendance numbers. Hell a lot of people don't even get the day off today either. I know they won today and last game but who is using a day off to come watch this team play with the current state of how they are and everything else going on in the world.

Looked up the past games...

2019 - 16,514

2018 - 15,722

2016 - 16,514

2013 - 16,592

2011 - 17,625

2010 - 13,492

 

[NJDevs26]

2019 is a great comparison, 1 PM NYE game that was a sellout despite the Devils winning just 13 of their first 38 games. Pretty much everything on that list was a sellout or close enough other than the nadir of 2010

 

[Satans Hockey]

2019 is a great comparison, 1 PM NYE game that was a sellout despite the Devils winning just 13 of their first 38 games. Pretty much everything on that list was a sellout or close enough other than the nadir of 2010

I know I was at almost all of these games except today but always feels like they fudge the numbers either way, plenty of times it's a "sellout" when there are thousands of empty seats.

They keep missing the playoffs, the team stinks, there's a pandemic, there's people who don't want to pay to wear masks, etc etc etc. Hell I'm shocked 13k even bothered to pay for this product at this point considering everything going on off and on the ice.

 

[MtoD]

Anyone know what that construction is on the opposite side of Penn Station from the arena?

They're renovating the overpass that connects Penn Station to some of the office buildings scattered between Penn Station and Prudential Center. The renovations will include another entrance directly across Penn Station (right now, you have to go up a level) as well as some new locations for restaurants (Serafina).

This is also why the overpass is currently closed off from Penn Station end.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Thought it was a good crowd considering the state of things. 90% of my family has it, it’s everywhere. Thankfully it’s pretty much mild or no symptoms for the vaxxed so hopefully this is end game when Spring comes along.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Thought it was a good crowd considering the state of things. 90% of my family has it, it’s everywhere. Thankfully it’s pretty much mild or no symptoms for the vaxxed so hopefully this is end game when Spring comes along.

I stayed home yesterday, but the crowd both sounded and looked great on TV. I'm shocked it was only 13k.

 

[HellOnIce]

AEW - Selling two tickets in Sec 3 for Wednesday if interested, PM me.

 

[lucifer91]

I thought there was a thread for stuff like developments in Newark and around the area, but maybe I am thinking of something else. Anyway I figured I'd post here. New development approved for the area at old Newark Bears stadium.

City Planning Board Approves 11-Building Mixed-Use Development in Newark, New Jersey - New York YIMBY

 

[Colin226]

I thought there was a thread for stuff like developments in Newark and around the area, but maybe I am thinking of something else. Anyway I figured I'd post here. New development approved for the area at old Newark Bears stadium.

City Planning Board Approves 11-Building Mixed-Use Development in Newark, New Jersey - New York YIMBY

You're definitely posting to the right thread. I just have to laugh because it feels like it's been so long since we saw Newark development news like this. The city just can't catch a break between the recession and then COVID.

The renderings of that look great! That would be a nice addition to the Newark skyline, and bring more people to live in the city.

 

[theimmortal1]

Lightning fan here!

I'll be taking my family (2 adults, 2 kids) to the game next Monday (Jan 10th). I saw the new vax rules, we should be good.

This is my first game at the Prudential Center

First off tickets:

1. I was just going to stubhub something good a day or two before the game. We want to be somewhat close to the ice. Any tips here?


Other:

1. Food wise... just eat at the arena or is there anything good outside? By good, I'm talking fun atmosphere, good food, but also reasonably kid friendly.
........or is it worth it to be upgrade to some sort of suite/club level with food? My kids probably care more about being close to the ice.
2. Coming from Manhattan... Penn Station to Penn Station on the NJ Transit the best bet?
3. My kids may want to bring a sign or something...stupid yes...but it is what it is. Any policy around that?
4. Vax wise... do we need our cards or would the NYC Covid app by sufficient (even though we are in Newark)?