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King'sPawn said:
You mean Greene's 2nd year on the Kings, when he was 25 years old? The same age MacDermid is now?

Because if you're talking about Greene's 2nd year in the league, in Edmonton, he was 8th among Edmonton's defensemen in TOI/gm.

Oh, maybe you weren't talking about Greene's second season on the Kings, either, as he averaged under 18 minutes/game, was 6th in toi/gm among defensemen (even less than Randy Jones).

So I'm not quite sure what 2nd year you are referring to.

MacDermid is a bottom 6 tough, intense defenseman who defends his teammates.

Greene was a lot more experienced (and yes, more talented as a whole) at this same age, but MacDermid brings stuff to the table nobody else does, but everyone appreciates.
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I remember watching Matt Greene at UND, now he's out of the NHL. f*** me.
 
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Bandit said:
I just meant tonight. I know a lot of good things have been said about both guys to date but this is the first game I’ve seen and they haven’t done much, which is why I’m apt to blame 73. :)
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Lol ... I hear ya but Amadio does the things that don’t show up on a stat sheet.. but he’s tenacious! Toffoli seems to be throwing that line off track
 
SlowFatandOld said:
Bjornfoot literally looks like the best dman on our roster and it’s not even close. Boy was I wrong on draft day! Kid looks great. Let him eat up minutes for at least 8 games.
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You know, a lot of things went into being able to get Bjornfot:

1. Muzzin played well last year...like the only plus, +/- D and he was having a very good year. Dubas wanted him.
2. Blake worked Dubas pretty good...wanted the #1 and maybe Sandin? (or even Kapanen) Talks went back and forth and thank God Muzzin continued to play well.
3. Blake came back and asked for #1, Grundstrom and Durzi...Dubas felt like he was going to win that deal, by not losing Kapanen or Sandin. (or Liljagren ? I think the Kings wanted Sandin or Kapanen)
4. Another KEY: Maple Leafs pick was looking like #26-27 for a few weeks...then dipped a little.
5. The Bruins took the Leafs out in 7 games, round 1! Thank you, Boston!
6. pick goes to #22 overall!
7. Yannetti and staff and Euro scout Christian Rutuu really liked Bjornfot.

At no point has there been a shortage of eyes on Tobias Bjornfot, the LA Kings’ second pick of the first round of the NHL Draft Friday night in Vancouver. Just as there was a constant trail behind forwards Kirby Dach, Bowen Byram, Dylan Cozens and Peyton Krebs in the Western Hockey League, there was a trio of esteemed draft-eligible Swedish defensemen drawing regular scrutiny – Edmonton’s Philip Broberg and Arizona’s Victor Soderstrom and Bjornfot – all of whom helped Sweden win their first-ever U-18 World Championship this past spring as hosts. Bjornfot served as captain for those seven games and has worn the crowns of Sweden’s national junior teams 51 times. Given his traditionally steady and chaos-free play, and his visibility, there weren’t any unearthed secrets about him as a player.
“Well, like I told Tobias, he bored me out,” said Christian Ruuttu, LA Kings Head European Scout. “And it’s a credit to him – he’s a D-man who’s a great skater, a strong skater, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. He hardly ever makes a mistake and he’s a leader. Also, he doesn’t look flashy or anything like that, but he just makes things happen and makes everybody around him better.”
Four of the Kings’ nine selections are Europe-based (another, Arthur Kaliyev, is an Uzbeki immigrant to the United States, and another, Andre Lee, is a Swede bound for UMass-Lowell), making Ruuttu intricately familiar with a variety of players who’ll get their real first introduction to the organization at development camp this week.
Christian Ruuttu, on Tobias Bjornfot using his feet to work out of trouble:
Exactly. Closes gaps really quickly. Defending-wise, he gets his body in front because he’s such a good skater. It’s very hard to play against, plus he has a good stick at the same time, defending-wise. They said it last night and I hadn’t even thought about it, but he does remind me of Ryan McDonagh. That’s exactly what he is. He’s not flashy, but he’s still a good power play guy. His skating is so good with the puck, and he can move. He’s not going to look for the second out past. If he sees the first pass, he’ll give it to you.
Ruuttu, on examples of Bjornfot’s character while scouting him:
When you asked anybody on the Swedish team that he played for, ask who’s the leader on the team, one name came out every time. It was Tobias. It was Tobias Bjornfot. Bjornfot, Bjornfot, Bjornfot. Every single guy said that, so it’s very impressive. You can’t go around asking Tobias who’s the leader, but every player said that on his team. ‘Tobias is our leader,’ and leading a team, getting the first World Championship under-18 for Sweden, it was a very good thing – winning at home, too. But Tobias is a solid player that way.

8. Apparently, the Kings scouting staff and Yannetti had Tobias and 1 forward dead heat. Yannetti said that he knew a forward high on their list would be there at #33, but a defenseman in Bjornfot's level, would not be there at 33.
They went Bjornfot. History was made.

This kid is 18 years, 5 months old. Unreal.

Good job, Yannetti, Rutuu and Blake...and thank you, Jake Muzzin!!!!!!!! Thank you for playing well last year, when most veterans sukked and dialed it in.
 
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King'sPawn said:
You mean Greene's 2nd year on the Kings, when he was 25 years old? The same age MacDermid is now?

Because if you're talking about Greene's 2nd year in the league, in Edmonton, he was 8th among Edmonton's defensemen in TOI/gm.

Oh, maybe you weren't talking about Greene's second season on the Kings, either, as he averaged under 18 minutes/game, was 6th in toi/gm among defensemen (even less than Randy Jones).

So I'm not quite sure what 2nd year you are referring to.

MacDermid is a bottom 6 tough, intense defenseman who defends his teammates.

Greene was a lot more experienced (and yes, more talented as a whole) at this same age, but MacDermid brings stuff to the table nobody else does, but everyone appreciates.
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In greene 2nd year in the nhl he was playing 22 mins a game on average I doubt Mac will ever play that many mins in a game . The only thing Greene and Mac have in common is toughness. I wouldn't play Mac more then a handful of games a year ( against duck and flames maybe sharks) He makes the other lhd play more mins then they should be. He will always play the least amount of mins out of any defenseman that is healthy,


ok maybe it was just the first 20 ish games he was over 20 mins but its still 20 more games then Mac will ever play
 
Bandit said:
I just meant tonight. I know a lot of good things have been said about both guys to date but this is the first game I’ve seen and they haven’t done much, which is why I’m apt to blame 73. :)
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Its a group of three guys who are just average skaters. I'd like to see Wagner and Grundstrom switched up in the third. Wagner would open up a bit more space for Amadio's reads and Toffoli to find room for his shot
 
kings11 said:
Lol ... I hear ya but Amadio does the things that don’t show up on a stat sheet.. but he’s tenacious! Toffoli seems to be throwing that line off track
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The game has passed Toffoli on by, he can't skate well enough to keep up.
 
The group think here regarding Toffoli is ridiculous.

He had a poor season, just like everybody else. Yeah, the second half of the previous yead was below his previous standard. He will likely be dealt before the end of the year instead of being re-signed. I am cool with those things, but the criticisms here are so over the top its laughable.
 
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KingCanadain1976 said:
In greene 2nd year in the nhl he was playing 22 mins a game on average I doubt Mac will ever play that many mins in a game . The only thing Greene and Mac have in common is toughness. I wouldn't play Mac more then a handful of games a year ( against duck and flames maybe sharks) He makes the other lhd play more mins then they should be. He will always play the least amount of mins out of any defenseman that is healthy,
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This Matt Greene?
Matt Greene (b.1983) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Whose second season is 2006-07?

NHL.com - Stats

Whose TOI/gm is 17:36?

Greene was always a bottom 6 defenseman. I have no idea where you're getting your information.
 
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bland said:
The group think here regarding Toffoli is ridiculous.

He had a poor season, just like everybody else. Yeah, the second half of the previous yead was below his previous standard. He will likely be dealt before the end of the year instead of being re-signed. I am cool with those things, but the criticisms here are so over the top its laughable.
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Yeah we’re all just mindless sheep and you’re the only free thinker. Pretty annoying dude.

Tofolli has been awful for a long while. He might turn it around and great if he does, but he has to prove it and rightfully so.
 
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