Hawks of Yesteryear Part II - Madden AHL 17
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Blackhawkswincup
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Torts had issues with Saad last year and was trying to put him on 4th line multiple times even as he was the best player or one of the best players on team
I don't understand what Torts has issue with in regards to Saad. Q loved him and his game (We all loved him and his game)
I don't understand what Torts has issue with in regards to Saad. Q loved him and his game (We all loved him and his game)
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JaegerDice
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Because of the success the team had, people forget that there were more than a few games where you could find Saad floating around the ozone and not doing a great job away from the puck.
Obviously Q never benched him or publicly hammered him for it, and there was never any pressure to do so given the Blackhawks were never in the position the Jackets are and have been in the standings.
Saad was bad the night Tortorella went off on him. He rebounded with a good performance.
Blackhawkswincup
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Habs up 5-0 on Wings
Danault with a goal (5th on year) + assist
Shaw with a goal + 2 assists
Watching Danault and knowing Stanley gave him away and extended Kruger is going to haunt us for years to come
Saad with 2 assists as Jackets are up 8-4 on Blues
TT with 2 assists and Dahlbeck an assist as Canes are up 4-1 on Capitals
Danault with a goal (5th on year) + assist
Shaw with a goal + 2 assists
Watching Danault and knowing Stanley gave him away and extended Kruger is going to haunt us for years to come
Saad with 2 assists as Jackets are up 8-4 on Blues
TT with 2 assists and Dahlbeck an assist as Canes are up 4-1 on Capitals
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Not really.
He has a Psh% of 23.23%. His career average is 7.87%.... roughly the same as Kruger's actually.
He has a Osh% of 12.7%. His carer average is 5.03%.
Granted, he hasn't had a particularly long career, but he's not generating more possession or shots in Montreal, just scoring on more of them. He's been lucky.
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Here comes the "advanced" stats, is there anything you wont defend? Saad "floated" around for a bunch of games, what player doesn't? I dont see you complaining about Toews when he is the highest paid player int he LEAGUE and been missing for two years... Lucky? LMAO, Danault is getting paid a fraction of what Kruger is getting paid, he is bigger, faster, younger, much much better offensively, has a great two way game and he keeeps improving and you keep making an argument against it, not to mention the whopping 2.2 million dollars can go a long way in improving the team. Stan is God, he can do no wrong, every player that left Chicago sucks, and every player that is here is the best player in the world for his respective position LOL
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Here comes the "advanced" stats, is there anything you wont defend? Saad "floated" around for a bunch of games, what player doesn't? I dont see you complaining about Toews when he is the highest paid player int he LEAGUE and been missing for two years... Lucky? LMAO, Danault is getting paid a fraction of what Kruger is getting paid, he is bigger, faster, younger, much much better offensively, has a great two way game and he keeeps improving and you keep making an argument against it, not to mention the whopping 2.2 million dollars can go a long way in improving the team. Stan is God, he can do no wrong, every player that left Chicago sucks, and every player that is here is the best player in the world for his respective position LOL
If you were a GM, you'd be the guy to pay Ville Leino.
This guy is scoring more in a tiny sample with unsustainable underlying numbers! Back up the Brinks truck!
This guy isn't scoring at a high rate atm but is driving possession relative to his teammates and facing the toughest competition, and has a significant sample size of dominant play. He sucks, trade him.
Never change Blackhawks. Tell me more about how Crawford isn't good and should be traded while you're at it. You're just so darn GOOD at evaluating the critical pieces of this team.
Kruger has, of course, been excellent. As he always is given the dungeon starts he takes in large part to provide the 2nd and 3rd lines with ample Ozone time. And he does it against top 6 competition no less.
I'm hardly a Stan apologist. I still find it ridiculous that we're paying Tootoo 750k when we could have had Sam Gagne for 600k.
The Sharp trade was bad. And after making it, he should have told his coach to make it work instead of trading Daley as soon as Q pouted.
But he's an excellent GM that's rebuilt the depth around this core twice already, and given how they've performed thus far this season with a ton of rookies, he's already on track to do it AGAIN.
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If you were a GM, you'd be the guy to pay Ville Leino.
This guy is scoring more in a tiny sample with unsustainable underlying numbers! Back up the Brinks truck!
This guy isn't scoring at a high rate atm but is driving possession relative to his teammates and facing the toughest competition, and has a significant sample size of dominant play. He sucks, trade him.
Never change Blackhawks. Tell me more about how Crawford isn't good and should be traded while you're at it. You're just so darn GOOD at evaluating the critical pieces of this team.
Kruger has, of course, been excellent. As he always is given the dungeon starts he takes in large part to provide the 2nd and 3rd lines with ample Ozone time. And he does it against top 6 competition no less.
I'm hardly a Stan apologist. I still find it ridiculous that we're paying Tootoo 750k when we could have had Sam Gagne for 600k.
The Sharp trade was bad. And after making it, he should have told his coach to make it work instead of trading Daley as soon as Q pouted.
But he's an excellent GM that's rebuilt the depth around this core twice already, and given how they've performed thus far this season with a ton of rookies, he's already on track to do it AGAIN.
I loved that 2 on 1 he couldn't finish. That blistering shot reminiscent of a U14 girl.
BK
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I loved that 2 on 1 he couldn't finish. That blistering shot reminiscent of a U14 girl.
What does being a female have to do with anything? You should be better than that...
BK
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PD is better offensively that Kruger. It is obvious but he is not close to as good defensively. It is a partial trade off.
Not sure how he can say it will haunt us for years to come when we are talking about a defensive center. PD has a ceiling of 25-35 points, those are not that hard to find. Also Kruger's deal is not long and can be moved fairly easy.
He really has been but I am sure people will argue it is skill.
Here comes the "advanced" stats, is there anything you wont defend? Saad "floated" around for a bunch of games, what player doesn't? I dont see you complaining about Toews when he is the highest paid player int he LEAGUE and been missing for two years... Lucky? LMAO, Danault is getting paid a fraction of what Kruger is getting paid, he is bigger, faster, younger, much much better offensively, has a great two way game and he keeeps improving and you keep making an argument against it, not to mention the whopping 2.2 million dollars can go a long way in improving the team. Stan is God, he can do no wrong, every player that left Chicago sucks, and every player that is here is the best player in the world for his respective position LOL
PD is making a 1/3 of MK and is an RA this year. Expect him to get 1.5-2 million. What would 2 million have got this current team?
The team needed 3rd line players last year and it cost PD to get 2 of them. This is what the team needed to potentially win the cup (spoiler PD would not have been any better than DW or TF due to the fact he was an offensive black hole last year along with the fact that the Blues would have killed him and TT on the same line because they are both weak on the puck). This trade was meh. No one is really saying Stan is a god (after yes but as of your post no).
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If you were a GM, you'd be the guy to pay Ville Leino.
This guy is scoring more in a tiny sample with unsustainable underlying numbers! Back up the Brinks truck!
This guy isn't scoring at a high rate atm but is driving possession relative to his teammates and facing the toughest competition, and has a significant sample size of dominant play. He sucks, trade him.
Never change Blackhawks. Tell me more about how Crawford isn't good and should be traded while you're at it. You're just so darn GOOD at evaluating the critical pieces of this team.
Kruger has, of course, been excellent. As he always is given the dungeon starts he takes in large part to provide the 2nd and 3rd lines with ample Ozone time. And he does it against top 6 competition no less.
I'm hardly a Stan apologist. I still find it ridiculous that we're paying Tootoo 750k when we could have had Sam Gagne for 600k.
The Sharp trade was bad. And after making it, he should have told his coach to make it work instead of trading Daley as soon as Q pouted.
But he's an excellent GM that's rebuilt the depth around this core twice already, and given how they've performed thus far this season with a ton of rookies, he's already on track to do it AGAIN.
LOOOL
You are not an apologist because you disagree with two moves and have the white cape riffling in the wind for every other trade, cool story indeed.
Scotty Bowman himself said that a team can survive and win a cup with an average goalie that is not paid too much as you end up using that money else where, Crawford is an average goalie when it comes to playoffs, but he has been very good last RS and been pretty good this one as well, I have never denied it. I think that an average goalie getting paid 3Mill will be just fine, or in this case Darling will be good enough.
Always the tiny sample excuse and now it has been almost two years on Toews and his sample size LMAOOOO
Leino? Not sure where that is coming from but ok... Go back and see the team I constructed after the Hawks won the cup and tell me if that team wouldnt have wont he cup this past year, Stan is not a good GM, he has lost all the prospect depth int he organization, and I dont even want to list all the assets he has lost for practically no return. He has made good trades as well, but more bad than good since the cup win, he has been horrible the last couple offseasons, I am dont even know how you can argue against that.
I dont know gee let me guess, maybe girls are just not as good in hockey as guys, and that is not to be sexist, I am just using simple logic and looking at the ratio of men to women in the NHL, I am sure the NHL is not a sexist organization and would allow women to play if they were at the same skill level.
BK
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You might be one of the most ignorant posters I ever encountered if you actually don't get this. If you don't get what is wrong with your train of thought then no one can help you.
MM should have just said a house league player or 14U player. Bringing gender into this conversation does nothing to re-enforce his point.
If I posted a comment like this I hope I would be called out.
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I loved that 2 on 1 he couldn't finish. That blistering shot reminiscent of a U14 girl.
What is the typical weakness of a female hockey player? Upper body strength and their shot, right? Fits Kruger perfectly.
Let's not have PC override accuracy.
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SJW much? Dude lighten up, let's not put him on political correctness deathrow because of a simple exaggerated joke lol. Everyone is so very sensitive and gets offended way too easily. Anyway to what Jager said, it's not only about stats, it's about keeping your team in it when it's most needed, Crawford has failed many times when it has come to that. Go to the LA series for example and see the amount of goals allowed, if he was just a tiny bit better the Hawks win, if he is praised for winning cups then I will call him.out for the lost ones, what about 2015 where he almost lost the series all by himself becuase he broke down and couldn't handle the pressure. Last year he was not that great also.
BK
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You know that is not the point. This is common sense and not PC overide.
I have seen girls that age that can snap shots off and boys that age that can't (you should know this).
When Kruger shoots his wrist action is almost not existent. This is his issue not strength.
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BK
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It is not a SJW move at all. Of course you rode in and white knighted MM (who does not need your help) and defended a comment that wasn't needed. Class and intelligence are not hard for most of us and if you really think saying that is fine then you are lacking both. It was an overzealous joke that should get called out, simple as that.
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BK
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You have to be playing dumb...
You simply over did the joke.
There is no point to adding the girl part.
Sandlot is a solid movie but it also depicts kids in the the 60's.
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JaegerDice
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Dano moving up the lineup in WIN. Skating with Scheifele and Laine on the top line.
Still hate that we gave him up in that Ladd trade.
Ah well.
Still hate that we gave him up in that Ladd trade.
Ah well.
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I did not even see his post before I posted mine as I was in the process of typing mine. But that just proves what I was saying is spot on as many others were thinking the same thing. Take that cape off and stop being so sensitive.
Its funny ha, Dano gone, Danault gone, TT gone, Johns gone and what do we have in return? Nothing(actually some cap dump coming our way)! But hey Stan is a great GM LOL
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