Has Connor Bedard quietly became underrated ?

[rynryn]

I don't know how i feel about this "he'd put up better numbers (undoubtably true) and look generational (very possible) if he had a better team. I get it. I think Kaprizov would be considered a top 5 forward in this league now if he had been playing with a legitimate #1C. But he hasn't, and so he isn't.

 

[MS]

Lol no it won't.

And you can't stop posting things without bringing him down. This while thread is you downplaying him.

This reminds me of the reactions I got from the fanboys on the Canucks board when I compared Cody Hodgson to Daymond Langkow.

Again : comparing a player to a future HHOF with scoring titles on his resume is not 'bringing him down'. Criticizing the defensive play of a poor defensive player is legitimate criticism.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Bedard and McDavid were granted exceptional status. And Bedard bettered McDavid's junior numbers. But we can call it a wash if you want. This is what separates Bedard from Patrick Kane. I thought it went without saying but apparently it needs to be said.

And Kane out produced Bedard's junior numbers. It's almost like junior hockey is different than the NHL.

Bedard was a generational junior hockey player, but it's very clear that he will not be a generational NHL player.

 

[Blue and Green]

And Kane out produced Bedard's junior numbers. It's almost like junior hockey is different than the NHL.

Bedard was a generational junior hockey player, but it's very clear that he will not be a generational NHL player.

Kane and Bedard had virtually identical points totals and points per game averages in their draft seasons. Bedard's ES points dwarfed Kane's (more than half of Kane's points came on the PP compared to less than a third of Bedard's). And Bedard was eight months younger.

It's not a situation, taken in any kind of context, where the numbers said that these were comparable junior players. Kane was not a generational junior player; Crosby, McDavid and Bedard were clearly above him.

 

[MuckOG]

You’re just doubling down because you made a bit of a mess of yourself in the Calder thread calling Faber better

Bringing up a guy who was born in 1965 when we’re only a couple months from 2025 is truly something else

I guess my point went right over your head, so I guess I need to dumb it down for you. I put very little stock in junior scoring as it pertains to how good of a career a player will have. Bedard will be a great player....but he's not going to be thought of like a McDavid or Crosby.

And Faber did have a better rookie season, but playing the last 2 months of the season with broken ribs and the preseason hype surrounding Bedard likely cost him the Calder.

 

[Jay26]

What? No. Just because the conversation turns sometimes doesn't mean he's suddenly underrated.

 

[TLEH]

I think it’s hilarious that since he was awful defensively at 18 on a horrible roster it means he’s f***ed defensively lol.

 

[Crow]

He could easily be on crosby’s level trophy case wise or even pass him. He’s already ahead.

McDavid level is probably a bit too high a bar.

To me he is like Kane like some said, but with a better shot in a higher scoring era. He is already kanes size and may fill out more.

Focusing on his defense going forward from his rookie year is just silliness.

 

[Figgzfood]

It is as serious as saying Bedard projects to be no better than Patrick Kane.

Can you show one scouting report that suggests Bedard is a defensive liability ?

What would you trade for dumais given junior numbers........ no, not comparable players but your argument so stupidly shortsighted.
I know you're a troll, but I couldn't help it.

 

[nbwingsfan]

And Kane out produced Bedard's junior numbers. It's almost like junior hockey is different than the NHL.

Bedard was a generational junior hockey player, but it's very clear that he will not be a generational NHL player.

They actually had identical PPG

Kane was a year older

Kane played on one of the most dominant junior lines in the modern era.

But sure.

I guess my point went right over your head, so I guess I need to dumb it down for you. I put very little stock in junior scoring as it pertains to how good of a career a player will have. Bedard will be a great player....but he's not going to be thought of like a McDavid or Crosby.

And Faber did have a better rookie season, but playing the last 2 months of the season with broken ribs and the preseason hype surrounding Bedard likely cost him the Calder.

Or being a worse player cost him the Calder.

We get you have a good D, congrats.

He was in no way shape or form better than Bedard.

 

[PainForShane]

And Kane out produced Bedard's junior numbers. It's almost like junior hockey is different than the NHL.

Bedard was a generational junior hockey player, but it's very clear that he will not be a generational NHL player.

The kid is 19 years old. Far too early to tell

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Connor Bedard was hyped at the retail level in his daft year. And was compared to Mcdavid or Crosby. But as his first year came and went , the hardcore fans and analysts were not as onboard with it anymore.

Something changed. We even have some fans trying to upsell Jack Hughs and Logan Cooley on him.

Now it's not considered serious to compare him to Mcdavid or Crosby. Why is this ?

..dude. It’s been one f***ing season.

 

[Sabre the Win]

No, he's just not Connor McDavid or Crosby and he won't ever be at that level. He's still an elite talent and will be a superstar.

 

[Brookbank]

No, he's just not Connor McDavid or Crosby and he won't ever be at that level. He's still an elite talent and will be a superstar.

Bedard was an exceptional status player just like McDavid. And put up equal/better numbers in junior on worse teams. But whatever you say; that's what receipts are for.

 

[Brookbank]

Who's doing CIBC commercials today ? Bedard and McDavid.

Who are the first 2 players featured in the new NHL ads ? Bedard and McDavid.

This is what I meant when I said retail level. In that sense, he is considered very much on the same level as McDavid. Just younger.

Here's the new NHL ad. (Jack Hughs fans will be thrilled to know that he made the cut)